I watched her show maybe 3 times total, just not a tv watcher and especially not these chatty shows. But I watched THIS show and it was a jaw dropper. They came back from a commercial break and ELLEN announced that whatever his name is has decided that this is the last time he is going to talk about this. He is not going on any other shows or giving interviews.
Now why would he have Ellen announce this and not say it himself. Weirdest thing I ever saw. And she led him along through her questions throughout the interview. One leading question after another.