That's what brought Bill into the ufo expo circuit but after dealing with spookspace and it's fuggery, he denounced most all involved with the popular ufo "movement" and went his own way.
He often repeated that
YES These things are flying around every day all day
BUT there are spookspacer people flying the things, not aliens.
He used to organize bus trips thru a radio station of non-believers who would go to outside of Rachel Neveda mile marker 29 and park and watch UFOs fly all over white sands (?) I think it was.
Bill Cooper was one of a kind.