Re-posting my Shiva = Cronus

I stumbled upon a very peculiar forum post the other day on a C++ forum. I'm relatively new to programming and I was looking for info on building a Gematria Calculator. <<http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/beginner/53187/>. The person who created the post greeted with "Heil" and "Illuminat", and signed "Eternally yours in L.V.X, Saturnia Regna, the Morning Star". They also said "Saturnia and Cristos are names for the same image/archetype." This really piqued my curiousity. I found it bizarre af that they would greet with ILLUMINAT - "Illuminat, is my way of making my presence known. It would be the same as when people say, Hello.", so I began to do some research into the phrases they posted, and their comparison of Saturnia to Cristos.

When I googled Saturnia Regna I came across the phrases on The Great Seal of the United States, one is 'Novus ordo seclorum' and the other is 'Annuit cœptis' <<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novus_ordo_seclorum>and <<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annuit_c%C5%93ptis>> . Novus ordo seclorum is the phrase containing a reference to Saturnia Regna which translates as "New order of the ages". From Wikipedia, The phrase is a reference to the fourth Eclogue of Virgil.

Ultima Cumaei venit iam carminis aetas; Now is come the final era of the Sibyl's song;

Magnus ab integro saeclorum nascitur ordo. The great order of the ages is born afresh.

iam redit et Virgo, redeunt Saturnia regna, now justice returns, honored rules return (or return of Saturn's reign);

iam nova progenies caelo demittitur alto. now a new lineage is sent down from high heaven.

It is these lines that discuss "redeunt Saturnia regna" or "return of Saturn's reign".

The other phrase on the seal, 'Annuit cœptis', translates as "Providence favors our undertakings".

Wikipedia goes on to say that 'According to Richard S. Patterson and Richardson Dougall, Annuit cœptis (meaning "favours our undertakings") and the other motto on the reverse of the Great Seal, Novus ordo seclorum (meaning "new order of the ages"), can both be traced to lines by the Roman poet Virgil. Annuit cœptis comes from the Aeneid, book IX, line 625, which reads, Iuppiter omnipotens, audacibus adnue coeptis.[12] It is a prayer by Ascanius, the son of the hero of the story, Aeneas, which translates to, "Jupiter Almighty, favour [my] bold undertakings", just before slaying an enemy warrior, Numanus.'

Both of these phrases on the Great Seal of the United States are taken from the poet Virgil and both phrases are taken from sections referencing Saturn. I've included pictures of the front and reverse of the seal. Both images include many instances of 13, supposedly in reference to the 13 colonies. 'On the obverse was E Pluribus Unum (13 letters), along with 13 stars, 13 horizontal stripes (on the shield on back of the US$1 dollar bill), 13 vertical stripes, 13 arrows, 13 olive leaves, and 13 olives. The pyramid under the motto, Annuit Cœptis, has 13 layers. According to Hieronimus, Annuit Cœptis has 13 letters'

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Now, Saturn is the Roman name for the Greek god Cronus. <<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronus>. Cronus was the leader of the Titans, the children of the sky and Earth. Cronus is commonly known for having (((eaten his children))) in order to prevent them overthrowing him. According to Wikipedia ( best source ever I know .. ), "During antiquity, Cronus was occasionally interpreted as Chronos, the personification of time. The Roman philosopher Cicero (1st century BCE) elaborated on this by saying that the Greek name Cronus is synonymous to chronos (time) since he maintains the course and cycles of seasons and the periods of time, whereas the Latin name Saturn denotes that he is saturated with years since he was devouring his sons, which implies that time devours the ages and gorges". Also, "In addition to the name, the story of Cronus eating his children was also interpreted as an allegory to a specific aspect of time held within Cronus' sphere of influence. As the theory went, Cronus represented the (((destructive ravages of time which devoured all things))), a concept that was illustrated when the Titan king ate the Olympian gods — (((the past consuming the future, the older generation suppressing the next generation)))".I bring this up specifically because of parallels I notice between the entities Saturn/Cronus/Chronos and the recently referenced deity Shiva.

In Greek/Roman mythos, Cronus is considered the King of the Gods, and in Hinduism, Shiva is also seen as the King of the Gods. From the Shiva link Q posted <https://www.britannica.com/topic/Shiva>, "He is both the great ascetic and the master of fertility, and he is the master of both poison and medicine, through his ambivalent power over snakes. As Lord of Cattle (Pashupata), he is the benevolent herdsman—or, at times, the merciless slaughterer of the “beasts” that are the human souls in his care." This website also refers to "Shiva as destroyer". <https://www.ancient.eu/shiva/also makes reference to Shiva as a destroyer, "A complex character, he may represent goodness, benevolence and serve as the Protector but he also has a darker side as the leader of evil spirits, ghosts and vampires and as the master of thieves, villains and beggars. He is also associated with Time, and particularly as the destroyer of all things. Nevertheless, Shiva is also associated with creation."

There is also the similarity of their association to the bull and its related themes. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_bull. "In Hinduism, Shiva's steed is Nandi, the Bull." and "The Canaanite (and later Carthaginian) statue to which sacrifices were burnt, either as a deity or a type of sacrifice – Moloch – was referred to as a horned man, and likened to Cronus by the Romans. There may be a connection between sacrifice to the Cretan horned man Minotaur and Cronus' himself. Both Baʿal and El were associated with the bull in Ugaritic texts, as it symbolized both strength and fertility."

Saturn, Jupiter, Cronus, C[h]ronos, Shiva

Different names for very similar deities. Common themes - Time, Destruction and Devouring, Fertility and the Bull. There are also other characteristics of each that are BIG Q themes, such as Shiva being related to evil spirits, vampires etc. Saturn/Cronus is see as having a relationship to Moloch (BULL) and Ba'al, two names that I hope we know by now. Ba'al, like Shiva, is associated with Fertility and the Bull. Both Ba'al and Moloch are associated with child sacrifice.

This surface research was brought together by similarities found 'coincidentally', stemming from a bizarre forum post <<http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/beginner/53187/>>. Again, the user likened 'Saturnia' to 'Cristos', and from what I've seen regarding Saturn/Cronus, I would NOT consider them to be of the same archetype as CHRIST.

I churned this out pretty hastily, let me know what you think.