Anonymous ID: b716ac April 22, 2020, 1:32 p.m. No.8886902   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7058 >>7141 >>7147 >>7215 >>7249 >>7264 >>7336

Rebuke of the AP pseudo-study used by the MSM to discredit HCQ, by team of Pr. Raoult

 

In response to the bad Magagnoli 'scientific article' put forward by AP, and subsequently used by the MSM as a basis for the recent 4AM talking point campaign to discredit the efficacy of HCQ and make it sound dangerous, the team of Professor Raoult published the following short letter:

https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Response-to-Magagnoli-FINAL-WITH-YANIS.pdf

 

They go as far as calling the Magagnoli paper a case of scientific misconduct, forgoing rigorous and balanced scientific analysis to push erroneous negative claims.

 

The letter was probably written in a hurry, by people that are not fluent in English. But after reading the references, what they mean becomes clear.

 

I provide below a clearer restatement of their argument. Please share their letter, with or without this analysis (no attribution required if you choose to add it), if you want to help counter the current MSM disinformation wave about HCQ.

 

They point out the following three major flaws in the Magagnoli paper:

 

1) Lymphophenia occurs twice as much in all the HCQ groups than in the 'control' group, and it is known there is a direct correlation between lymphophenia and the risk of dying from COVID-19.

Magagnoli and al. acknowledged themselves in their paper that this disparity is present.

That did not prevent them from concluding the way they did anyway.

 

2) They present 2 distinct tables:

A) A first one, where there seem to be no difference in outcome between HCQ groups and the 'control' group, with poor statistical significance (for instance, p=0.79).

But see the point 3) to understand why that has occurred.

Furthermore, in this table, the time at which the treatments started before intubation is provided (while being excluded from table B).

 

B) A second one, where they omitted to provide information about when the treatment began.

To Raoult's team, the combination of:

-this omission,

-the fact that the time before intubation was provided in table A),

-and the values of the medical indicators reported, congruent with that of patients treated after intubation

indicates that the data for that second table comes from patients that were intubated for some time before receiving an HCQ treatment, in desperation.

However it is known that at that stage, cytokine storm is occurring, and that HCQ alone cannot help patients anymore.

 

3) 30% of the 'control' group, astonishingly, actually received Azithromycin, even though Azithromycin alone can be a treatment (Gautret, 2020), and has been show to work in vitro (Andreani, 2020).

 

[It has been shown that Azithromycin has an HCQ-like effect for SARS-CoV-19, i.e. that it acts both as an antibiotic staving off secondary pulmonary infections and as a booster of the HCQ mechanism of action, which is the reason why the HCQ+AZ combination is so effective.]

 

-For Raoult and al., this is close to being scientific fraud.

 

To Raoult and al., Magagnoli and al. use these 3 scientifically dishonest 'results' to push forward the idea that HCQ is dangerous, even though it has been reported to be one of the safest drugs available based on data from over 1 million patients (Lane, 2020).

 

In conclusion, Raoult and al. state that this is a good example of how, in these times, some are ready to publish results that do not stand up to any methodological analysis, in order to 'prove' a given set of predetermined desired claims.

Anonymous ID: b716ac April 22, 2020, 2 p.m. No.8887215   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7249 >>7256

AP article that started the latest MSM HCQ scare disinfo campaign, is literally lying

 

The AP published 2 days ago an article that used the pseudo-study of Magagnoli to present HCQ as bad:

https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2

 

That article was subsequently used by the MSM as a 4AM talking point disinfo campaingn to discredit HCQ.

 

The AP article is lying, literally (explanation below):

>But with 368 patients, it’s the largest look so far of hydroxychloroquine with or without the antibiotic azithromycin for COVID-19

 

They did not lie about those parts though:

>The study was posted on an online site for researchers and has not been reviewed by other scientists.

>The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment.

 

How are they literally LYING?

 

Well, it so happened, that yesterday, on the 20th, the team of professor Raoult released another draft of their own study on 1061 patients, which is a rigorous one, and with the full body of the article:

https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/MS.pdf

 

So this news article, published on the 21st, is lying in the following way: that 'study' is not the largest outlook available so far. The day before it was written, a study on a much larger number of patients came out, and it shows HCQ+AZ works.

 

People knew the team of Raoult was about to publish the main body of their article (they published the summary about a week ago).

 

So out of nowhere, a crappy 'study' comes out on the same day, and the AP only choose to report on that one, and not on the other one?

 

Several weeks ago, it became apparent that they had set up the WHO studies to make the HCQ fail, by not applying the recommended regimen, and only applying it to people that are too far advanced for it to work.

 

They delayed the start of those studies, and the results are not going to come before the end of April at least. So they had to come up with something else, I suppose. And they decided to 'forget' to mention the other study, which shows the opposite (it works, no serious side effects, etc.), in their news release.

 

Does this surprise anyone?

 

And is it not funny that they decide to rely on a 'study that was not a rigorous experiment', after discarding all the studies that showed it was effective for not being 'rigorous enough'?

 

The mechanism of effectiveness has been established in vitro, and confirmed in vivo by following the evolution of the viral load in patients.

 

Is it not obvious that this 'news release', and probably also the sudden release of this 'scientific paper', are politically motivated? Can you find an article in the US press about the paper of the team of Raoult? It is written in English, they have no excuse for not reporting on it.

 

>Patients asked about it soon after Trump started promoting its use, “but now I think that people have realized we don’t know if it works or not” and needs more study, said Safdar, who had no role in the VA analysis.

 

See >>8886902 for more related info.