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Cardinal direction thing matches up too. It's demonic princes. Not human royalty.
https:// www.thoughtco.com/crown-princes-of-hell-95917
Yes, some demon-worship belief systems have them as two separate entities. Although, it's widely accepted that Satan, the Serpent from Eden, Lucifer etc are the same adversary, biblically. I personally believe Satan is Lucifer.
Dunno, but I'd bet they're hoarding plenty of docs that undermine their authority. It's easy for them at the moment, people just believe what they're told and accept it as the true, first church, but say their entire collection got digitized.. they wouldn't have a leg to stand on. (although you don't need suppressed ancient documents to disprove traditions unique to the Roman Catholic church, just open a Bible..)
Yeah, I've come to that conclusion also. It could be interpreted to mean either. In all, I don't think we NEED to know. All we need to know is the truth about God and the fact that there is an adversary trying to bring us down with him.
Also, we don't even know the true name of "Lucifer". As everyone know's, it's just something of a description. For example, in Genesis, the "serpent" is called, in Hebrew "nachash" – in adjective form, this could mean "shining, brazen (like bronze)"
So a shining being. Then there's the usual latin 'light bearer' etc, it came about in the translation of Isaiah 14 from Hebrew. The original term that was translated to 'Lucifer' was "Helel ben Shachar" - "Shining one, son of the dawn", "shining one" being sometimes translated as "bearer/bringer of light", i.e. "lucifer"
Yep! The same lie, over and over, because he's found it to be a successful strategy. Works all the time. Look at all the religions claiming that man has some inner 'divine nature' that he can unlock.. such BS, and as you said, the original lie.
They've gotten so complacent over their time lording it over the rest of us. It'll be truly wonderful to see the look on their faces when it all comes crashing down on them.
Yeah, I've always thought they weren't 'theistic' Satanists. Their idea of Satan is more like a self empowerment thing. But this info about "demonic princes" kinda contrasts with that, hence I'm trying to see if any source material can be dug up where they state their beliefs about these princes. Are they just facets of human behaviour etc, or literal beings to be worshipped? I don't want to interpret part of a Q post based on info from essentially some blog, so I want to see if that thoughtco info can be backed up.
Sure, plenty of people leading large churches and milking them for money, using their influence to advance nefarious agendas or both. You'll know them by their fruits. There's a reason that was said - so we can discern which are genuinely for and of God and which are just piggybacking on the "Christian" name to achieve some goal.
Yup. Hardly the 'original church' when their man-made doctrines didn't begin to appear for quite some time. People practiced Christianity according to God's word before them and people continue to live by God's word today. No need for introduced mediators, sacraments and a pope in place of Christ at the head of the church. Vicar of Christ. From "vicarious" (taking the place of another person or thing). Sounds like antichrist to me, along with the whole "Holy Father" title and "father" for priests. Forgiveness and salvation are through Christ's finished work on the cross. You can pray to God, in Jesus' name and ask for forgiveness. No other mediators are needed or biblically allowed. Our God is one with whom you have a personal relationship. No going to some priest to ask them for the forgiveness only God provides. The only priest needed now that old law has been fulfilled is our High Priest, Jesus Christ who became the ultimate sacrifice for our salvation.
God makes it clear that persecution should be expected. Anyway, people don't need to be part of the RCC to stand up for one another. Also, guitars or not, all I want is to live according to God's will, not what men over centuries of power struggles and corruption have established as doctrine.
>Oh, so now you're advocating for the existence of a church
This is beginning to sound familiar. I've talked to quite a few people who were arguing for Catholicism and they always end up saying something stupid like this. How am I advocating for the existence of a church, and what would be wrong with that anyway? A "church" in this context is simply a group of believers in Christ. As for my 'laziness' - what makes you think I haven't looked into this? Oh, I know.. it's the fact that I have a different opinion to you! Anyway, I'm not going to contribute anything else to sliding here. All I can do is advise you to base your beliefs on what is actually in the Bible. After all, it's your soul, not mine.
From what I can see of his past posts, he's on the right track.. the Pope (in any capacity) isn't infallible. He's a man born with a sin nature like the rest of us. Born with a sin nature just like Mary. (No, the Bible doesn't say she was sinless, nor does it say she remained a virgin). No matter what this guy got wrong about Roman Catholic doctrine, he's right that they teach plenty of things you won't find in the Bible.
And now things with Q appear to be heading in the direction of exposing just how much people have been fooled by this organisation.
Is it just me, or are the QLarp/AIM shills constantly online recently?
Seems like they're always posting. Shifts I guess. Maybe a bot, with person completing captcha every 24h..
Same here, anon!
Aw. That's a shame. Hope he's still around.
Hmm. The angel of Revelation that is described as holding the key to the bottomless pit? It's not impossible, I guess
What's on its way will make the Lewinsky thing look tame.