>>898096 (last bread)

Yes; Paul the apostle planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase. So then neither is he that planteth anything, nor he that watereth.

In other words, not the minister or apostle or his authority is what is worthy of praise, but God. All ministers of God have the same end–the building up of the Church.

The other verse cited: "All things are yours, whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or life or death…" is from a little further down in the chapter: 3:21-22. It shows that the Church, the believers, have preeminence over all the apostles or ministers of the Church. The apostles/ministers BELONG to the Church, the believers. It completely undercuts the idea that the Pope is the divinely ordained head of the church, and much more that Peter is somehow the rock on which Christ builds His church.

You'd find that in there if you bothered to read it.

Way to completely miss the point and try to nitpick on the citation of the verse, about which you were wrong anyway.

>>898246

Only 4-6%?

>>898266

Lots of things aren't in the biblical record that happened. Earliest church historians say Peter and Paul both died in Rome.

>>898204

good gravy this woman fine

>>898320

Read Examen Concilii Tridentini, ignorant Papist, all 7 volumes, in Latin. No, just read the first 75 pages of the first volume. Then come back and I'll accept your apology for talking out your neck.

>>898375

Or just learn koine Greek.

>>898375

Also, the 10 (or is it more?) apocryphal OT were not "accepted from the beginning." The translator of the Vulgate didn't "accept them" as Scripture. You papists are almost as ignorant as the babtists.

>>898165

No, they need to get to church, read the bible, and get away from "the sharpest anons," far, far away, when it comes to biblical interpretation and theology.

>>898180

sure…why not use a text in large part fabricated by Erasmus?

>>898467

The Book of Enoch isn't part of the OT apocrypha. It's pseudepigrapha.

But if you like it and find it interesting, it must be from God, right?

>>898476

Pontic.

New Testament was written in Koine.

Classical Greek is Attic.

>>898479

No. He is God incarnate. John 1:1-4, Colossians 1

>>898508

You don't

>>898492

Blessings anon. This board is good for a lot of things, but 95 percent of the theology here is cancer

>>898305

Friend, the whole point of the quote was that the pope's claimed authority is contrary to Scripture, as well as to the witness of the ancient church.

>>898434

You don't even know what it is. If you did, it would be obvious to you that it's not "catholic bashing," unless everyone who disputes the claims of the Catholic church on the basis of Scripture and citations of the church fathers is "catholic bashing."

The whole "catholic bashing" phrase is whiny. Do catholic apologists ever do anything that could be called "protestant bashing"? Like you when you claimed that no protestants ever read church history?

>>898521

this is a mature post anon. Blessed are the peacemakers.

>>898521

However, I'm skeptical about anon's efforts to re-read Scripture in light of Q.

>>898605

Orthodox anon, I appreciate your perspective as a lutheran anon. But my experience is that theology isn't going to get much traction on Q research.

>>898536

On the contrary. I've done lots of research–specifically relating to Q in the past. And for the discussions on this bread–hours and hours of research in Scripture and theology.

"In the beginning was the Word…and the Word was God…1:14 and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. And we have seen His glory, glory as of the only begotten of the Father."

Col. 1: 15He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16For byf him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. 17And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent. 19For in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell, 20and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross."

>>898746

Yeah, that must be it.

>>898748

Whoa. My apologies Q

>>898777

The issue isn't your knowledge of Latin. The issue is that you read the work cited and the many others like it before making foolish, broad claims