>William R. Evanina
this looks like great news
Bill is one of us.
check this out:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/transcript-william-evanina-talks-with-michael-morell-on-intelligence-matters-podcast-sep-4-2018/
Transcript: William Evanina talks with Michael Morell on "Intelligence Matters" podcast, Sep. 4, 2018
SEPTEMBER 5, 2018 / 6:00 AM / CBS NEWS
MICHAEL MORELL:
Bill, I have not been to your headquarters in Maryland, but I'm told that there is a museum of sorts there called the Wall of Shame. What is that?
WILLIAM EVANINA:
Great question. And we have what I think is a really unique memento. It's about a 60-foot wall depicting the history of espionage and sabotage insider threats, and it's with little bios and graphical depictions of each individual who betrayed this country all the way back to Benedict Arnold.
And it really gives the employees of NCSC and (UNINTEL) for that matter a reminder every day why we do what we do. And we believe– we're expanding it, we have some artifacts. So, you have some typewriters, some stuff from Ames and Hanssen now to beef it up. But it's a great reminder for the folks who work on intelligence why we do it.
MICHAEL MORELL:
And what does it take to get on that wall?
WILLIAM EVANINA:
Bad things, right? It takes you betraying your country, whether that be–
MICHAEL MORELL:
Do you have to be convicted or–
WILLIAM EVANINA:
Yes. So, it would be right through the legal process. So, for us, legally, we have to have the ability. So, for instance, there are some people out there who maybe have leaked some classified documents who weren't (UNINTEL) through the legal process who aren't on the wall yet. And we can talk about–
…read it, still going through, a LOT there that will sound like us.
gives build the wall a new meaning
he goes on to explain
MICHAEL MORELL:
Do you have to be convicted or–
WILLIAM EVANINA:
Yes. So, it would be right through the legal process. So, for us, legally, we have to have the ability. So, for instance, there are some people out there who maybe have leaked some classified documents who weren't (UNINTEL) through the legal process who aren't on the wall yet. And we can talk about–
they have to be prosecuted and convicted to make the wall