Mary McCord Testimony

Pg. 18-21

NO EVIDENCE Trump Campaign intruded into DNC or Podesta email

 

MR. GOWDY: All right. So with those two separate pivot points, and I

think you testified that the matter was still under investigation when you left, what evidence, regardless of source, regardless of credibility, believability, existed that any member of the Trump campaign conspired wtth anyone else to intrude into either the DNC server or the Podesta email?

 

MS. MCCORD: I can't recall if there was information * any information or evidence at the time I left about conspiring to take part in the actual intrusion.

 

MR. GOWDY: How about the dissemination of information gathered

during the intrusion?

 

MS. MCCORD: I can't refer you to any evidence of that as well.

 

Also of note, Trey Gowdy questions her directly about whether or not It is a crime to DISSEMINATE information gathered as somebody else crime.

 

MR. GOWDY: Would it be a crime to disseminate information gathered as

a result of someone else's crime?

 

• She gives a long answer dancing around the question*

 

MR. GOWDY: l've been gone so long, I don't remember the answer to this question, but can you be guilty of a conspiracy when the act took place before the conspiracy was formed?

 

MS. MCCORD: Not for the conspiracy to commit that act.

 

MR. GOWDY: ls misprison of a felony a possible charge if you after the

fact knew about a crime taking place and failed to report it or does that require you having a duty to report it?

 

MS. MCCORD: I don't - l'm not competent to answer that question right

now –

 

MR. GOWDY: l'm not either. l'm just trying to figure out what potential

criminality could exist if Mr. Conaway hacked into Mr. Rooney's email and I had nothing to do with it, but I thought, this is some interesting stuff, l'm going to participate in the dissemination of it. l'm just trying to figure out what the range of possible criminal conduct could be for that. Can you think of anything?

 

MS. MCCORD: l'm not – l'm just not prepared today to tell you

every every possible crime that there could be, because ifs so factually specific. lf what you're never mind.

 

Refering to Q post 3241, we can infer that Gowdy could be referencing dissemination of false information regarding Adam Schiff.

 

"Congressman Adam Schiff, who spent two years [knowingly] and unlawfully lying and leaking, should be forced to resign from Congress!"

[Knowingly]

[Knowingly]

[Knowingly]

Leaking investigations can lead to [forced] resignations.

[Knowingly] disseminating FALSE information is illegal.

GANG OF 8 (INTEL)

Q

 

It is also possible here that Gowdy is, at the same time discussing dissemination of information obtained through an illegal act in regards to Julian Assange/Seth Rich/DNC.

 

Here is another portion, note how Gowdy says "ACCESS"

 

MR. GOWDY: Well, I'm actually not trying to make it complicated.

"lnfluencing the election" is kind of the phrase that we hear a lot. ls thal a crime? ls working with a foreign government to influence an election a crime?

 

MS. MCCORD: There could be different crimes that come from that.

 

MR. GOWDY: And that's what I'm getting at. What could they be?

 

MS. MCCORD: Well, again, I would go back to what complicity there

might have been in the obtaining of the information, what sources might have been used, wire sources or others to convey the information, whether it was done fraudulently based on who you claim to have been in conveying the information or what the source of that information is. So I think there's a variety of things to be looked at.

 

MR. GOWDY: Do all of those assume some complicity in the underlying

act?

 

MS. MCCORD: No. I don't believe they would have to assume

complicity. lf by underlying act you mean the intrusion -

 

MR. GOWDY: Access, yeah.

 

MS. MCCORD: - then no. But as you do know, because I know you were also were a Federal prosecutor, all criminal offenses do require knowledge and most require an intent except for strict liability crimes.