>>10900241

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Now the next thing I did was to look at the alternative explanation of the elongated skulls. I got really annoyed because MOST of what I bumped into were explanations linking the elongated skulls to Aliens or some said it was the Nephilim (face palm). So I kept on looking until I bumped into this:

Please read the following SLOWLY and CAREFULLY. This is EXACTLY the TYPE of information I’m looking for. ANYTHING just WON’T DO. I’ve stated this from the start of this research = anything won’t do, the information must be carefully selected and veted.

https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/breaking-new-dna-testing-2000-year-old-elongated-paracas-skulls-changes-020914

“23 JULY, 2016

New DNA Testing on 2,000-Year-Old Elongated Paracas Skulls Changes Known History

The elongated skulls of Paracas in Peru caused a stir in 2014 when a geneticist that carried out preliminary DNA testing reported that they have mitochondrial DNA “with mutations unknown in any human, primate, or animal known so far”. Now a second round of DNA testing has been completed and the results are just as controversial – the skulls tested, which date back as far as 2,000 years, were shown to have European and Middle Eastern Origin. These surprising results change the known history about how the Americas were populated.”

>> Remember Mr Van Sertima (starting page 231) and his research? He was on the right track. If he had continued with his research he would have landed on something amazing. Mr Van Sertima made the mistake of ONLY focusing on the African link and not expanding his research to look for OTHER LINKS. When they said in this paragraph that some had some European and Middle Eastern Origins, doesn’t that fit with what is written in page 233 = Armenian and Caucasian? I’ve mentioned before about a wave of migration with its starting point being Mt Ararat = survivors of the Great Flood, didn’t just move to Mesopotamia and Phoenicia, they also migrated to Europe. Also remember the early graves (Naqada – Pages 146-147) of Ancient Egypt? = they contained various ethnicities. None of this is a coincidence. It’s all connected and it has a meaning.

“Paracas is a desert peninsula located within Pisco Province on the south coast of Peru. It is here where Peruvian archaeologist, Julio Tello, made an amazing discovery in 1928 – a massive and elaborate graveyard containing tombs filled with the remains of individuals with the largest elongated skulls found anywhere in the world. These have come to be known as the ‘ Paracas skulls ’. In total, Tello found more than 300 of these elongated skulls, some of which date back around 3,000 years.”

>>So not just one or two elongated skulls were found, but more than 300 of them. And just look at how old some are.

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>>10915022

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“It is well-known that most cases of skull elongation are the result of cranial deformation, head flattening, or head binding, in which the skull is intentionally deformed by applying force over a long period of time. It is usually achieved by binding the head between two pieces of wood, or binding in cloth. However, while cranial deformation changes the shape of the skull, it does not alter other features that are characteristic of a regular human skull.

In a recent interview with Ancient Origins, author and researcher LA Marzulli describes how some of the Paracas skulls are different to ordinary human skulls:

“There is a possibility that it might have been cradle headboarded, but the reason why I don’t think so is because the position of the foramen magnum is back towards the rear of the skull. A normal foramen magnum would be closer to the jaw line…”

Marzulli explained that an archaeologist has written a paper about his study of the position of the foramen magnum in over 1000 skulls. “He states that the Paracas skulls, the position of the foramen magnum is completely different than a normal human being, it is also smaller, which lends itself to our theory that this is not cradle headboarding, this is genetic.”

>> Yes, I think it is GENETIC and not artificially made via modifying the skull’s shape from infancy. As I’ve said in the Wikipedia page reflecting the Main Stream History views on this matter, this discovery of SOME of the skulls having this shape genetically allows us to divide them into 2 categories = 1 – Those naturally born with it. 2 – Those which were modified after birth.

“In addition, Marzulli described how some of the Paracas skulls have a very pronounced zygomatic arch (cheek bone), different eye sockets and no sagittal suture, which is a connective tissue joint between the two parietal bones of the skull.

In a normal human skull, there should be a suture which goes from the frontal plate … clear over the dome of the skull separating the parietal plates - the two separate plates – and connecting with the occipital plate in the rear,” said Marzulli. “We see many skulls in Paracas that are completely devoid of a sagittal suture.

There is a disease known as craniosynostosis, which results in the fusing together of the two parietal plates, however, Marzulli said there is no evidence of this disease in the Paracas skulls.”

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>>10915031

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“DNA Testing

The late Sr. Juan Navarro, owner and director of the Museo Arqueologico Paracas, which houses a collection of 35 of the Paracas skulls, allowed the taking of samples from three of the elongated skulls for DNA testing, including one infant. Another sample was obtained from a Peruvian skull that had been in the US for 75 years. One of the skulls was dated to around 2,000 years old, while another was 800 years old.

The samples consisted of hair and bone powder, which was extracted by drilling deeply into the foramen magnum. This process, Marzulli explained, is to reduce the risk of contamination. In addition, full protective clothing was worn.

The samples were then sent to three separate labs for testing – one in Canada, and two in the United States. The geneticists were only told that the samples came from an ancient mummy, so as not to create any preconceived ideas.

Surprising Results

From the samples, only the mitochondrial DNA (DNA from the mother’s side) could be extracted. Out of four hair samples, one of them couldn’t be sequences. The remaining three hair samples all showed a Haplogroup (genetic population group) of H2A, which is found most frequently in Eastern Europe, and at a low frequency in Western Europe. The bone powder from the most elongated skull tested came back as T2B, which originates in Mesopotamia and what is now Syria, essentially the heart of the fertile crescent. “It rewrites history as we know it,” said Marzulli.”

>> And both originated from Mt Ararat.

“If these results hold,” writes Brien Foerster on his website Hidden Inca Tours , “the history of the migration of people to the Americas is far more complex than we have been told previously.”

If these results are confirmed through further tests, it means that peoples from Europe and the Middle East migrated to the Americas long before it is conventionally believed.”

>> That’s the initial thought that comes to mind when you see such results. These were my thoughts at first as well, but then, I found another piece of the puzzle that changed everything and I saw something else.

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>>10915039

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“Marzulli said that mainstream academics will probably attack these results by pointing to the fact that he is not a scientist, but he urges any skeptic to replicate the study. “Attack the evidence folks. Go down and get your own samples, pay for a DNA lab and then come back to me with your science… do some science like we’ve done,” he said. The full lab reports of the DNA tests are available in LA Marzulli’s book Nephilim Hybrids .”

>> Of course the results are going to be attacked because it doesn’t fit (((their))) narrative. This blows a HUGE HOLE into the Main Stream History narrative as well as it shatters the magic spell of lies. I agree with the words said = don’t attack the messenger, attack the message.

“The results are also consistent with the fact that many of the Paracas skulls still contain traces of red hair, a color that is not natively found in South America, but originates in the Middle East and Europe.”

>> This puts a HUGE smile on my face. I’ve always been interested in RED HAIR. Anyone reading this thread is willing to help uncover all of the RED hair mysteries?

“No academics as far as we can tell can explain why some of the skulls that still have hair are red or even blonde,” writes Brien Foerster, “the idea that this is from time or bleaching has NOW been disproven by 2 hair experts. For the ancient Paracas people, at least, they had blonde to reddish hair that is 30% thinner than NATIVE American hair. It is GENETIC!”

>> Well, I’m going to have a go at it later on in this thread. I’m going to try. All that I’ve been posting since the start is to reach a specific point. Still working my way there.

“Extra-terrestrial Hypothesis

Due to the unusual shape and features of the Paracas skulls, there has long been speculation that they are extra-terrestrial in origin, and many have hoped that DNA testing would prove that to be the case.

“As regards an “alien” component or ancestry to the skulls, we may never know,” writes Brien Foerster. “The DNA testing programs can only compare sample DNA with those that are known, and those are held in a huge database called Gentech in the US. Further testing with cooperation from Peruvian archaeologists and the Ministry of Culture are now ongoing.”

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>>10915054

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“Nevertheless, LA Marzulli explained that the DNA results fit perfectly with the hypothesis he has held since before any testing was undertaken. That is that the Paracas people are the Nephilim. The Nephilim, according to ancient Biblical texts, are the offspring of the Fallen Angels and the women of earth, resulting in a hybrid entity, and they said to be based in the area of the Levant, the same place that the Paracas DNA traces to.”

Whether or not this hypothesis is correct, the results of the DNA tests are dramatic and history changing and further testing may help to unravel the complex history of the Paracas people.”

>> “Double Face Palm” from the old man. Anons, this paragraph….I throw it in the garbage bin. There is a reason why we have red hair and elongated skulls, but it’s not Alien nor the Nephilim. I’m working on it by gathering all the pieces for the anons. Some were already provided to you, if you noticed them.

And for Heavens sake when the words Lebanon and Phoenicia will stop being TABOO by writers, researchers and historians. Mt Hermon is located on Anti-Lebanon mountain range = stop using the word Levant or Middle East. I’m trying to get anons attention to the fact that the 2 names of Lebanon and Phoenicia are “forbidden” to be used in old and new writings, either its book or articles or anything that is related to them. Anons reading this thread, have you ever wondered why is it like that? Then compare with how (((they))) treat Christ and how (((they))) ban his name. Whom do (((they))) attack most? We know (((they)))) try to change and twist contemporain historical events as in rewritting history. Be attentive, notice what is hidden behind a thin veil. Connect the dots. Think Mirror. Mostly, make up your own mind about this.

“Next Steps

LA Marzulli and colleagues have plans for further testing and are currently working with Peruvian and American archaeologists. They have verbal permission from the head archaeologist of a Peruvian Museum to take more samples. These will then be presented to the Ministry of Culture for final consent before the samples are taking to US labs for testing. This process is expected to take at least a couple of years to complete.”

>> I will be waiting for the results to come out.

I’m just going to repeat what I said before about the elongated skulls = we can put them in 2 categories and we should unify the data. Once we determine which were genetically = naturally elongated and which are imitations as in human intervention was behind the elongated shape, we can start studying, researching and trying to find the origins of the WHY.

One last thought about the elongated skull of the Paracas culture: Anons, do you think the Paracas dead were bundled up in the “SEED” shape wrapping (page 379) because of the skull shape? Do you think there is a connection about the burial practices and choices because they were trying to accommodate the skulls shape? Loads of research tunnels here.

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“Arts and technology

Pottery

The Nazca culture is characterized by its beautiful polychrome pottery, painted with at least 15 distinct colors. The shift from post-fire resin painting to pre-fire slip painting marked the end of Paracas-style pottery and the beginning of Nazca-style pottery.

The use of pre-fire slip painting meant that artisans experimented to learn which slips produced certain colors. Major pottery shapes include double-spout bottles, bowls, cups, vases, effigy forms, and mythical creatures. Archaeologists have excavated highly valued polychrome pottery among all classes of Nazca society, illustrating that it was not just the elite that had access to them. Commoners were able to obtain these goods through feasting and pilgrimages to Cahuachi. In addition, clays matching the chemical signature of polychrome pottery found all over the Southern Nazca Region have been found near Cahuachi. However, there is no substantial evidence of pottery production at Cahuachi. The site was most likely a redistribution center for ceramics.

The Nazca pottery sequence has been divided into nine phases. Visual depictions found on pottery from Phase 1 (also called Proto-Nazca) incorporated realistic subject matter such as fruits, plants, people, and animals. Realism increased in importance in the following three phases (2, 3, 4) referred to as the Monumental phases. The pottery from these phases include renditions of their main subject matter against a bold red, black, or white background.

In the next phase, Nazca 5, considerable experimentation occurred, including the addition of rays, volutes, and other "proliferous" attachments to the supernatural motifs on the vessels. Phase 5 is called Transitional, since it bridges the change in style between the naturalism of Phases 2-4 and the proliferous elements added to the motifs in Phases 6 and 7.

Nazca 6, and 7 include some of the earlier motifs but also emphasizes militaristic ones, suggesting a shift in social organization. The motifs in these phases include abstract elements as part of the design. Large numbers of rays and tassels are appended to many of the designs, particularly those depicting mythical subjects, producing a visual impression of almost infinitely multiplied elements, an impression which accounts for the use of the term 'proliferous'.[11] Pottery art of Nazca phases 6 and 7 also displays influence from the Moche culture of north coastal Peru.

Finally, during Nazca 8 disjointed figures and a geometric iconography was introduced that has been difficult to decipher. Phases 8 and 9 are now believed to date to the Middle Horizon. This period was one of a shift in power from the coast to the highlands with the advent of the Wari culture about 650 CE.”

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>>10980904

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“The Nazca, like all other Pre-Columbian societies in South America including the Inca, had no writing system, in contrast to the contemporary Maya of Mesoamerica. The iconography or symbols on their ceramics served as a means of communication. The motifs depicted on Nazca pottery fall into two major categories: sacred and profane. The Nazca believed in powerful nature spirits who were thought to control most aspects of life. The Nazca visualized these nature spirits in the form of mythical beings, creatures having a combination of human and animal/bird/fish characteristics, and painted them onto their pottery. These Mythical Beings include such varieties as the Anthropomorphic Mythical Being, Horrible Bird, Mythical Killer Whale, Spotted Cat, Feline Man and Rayed Face.

Scenes of warfare, decapitation, and the ritual use of human trophy heads by shamans reflect other aspects of Nazca culture.”

>> Some comments on the pottery designs:

1 – The first piece of pottery I’ve put has the figure of a Staff-god, holding one staff though instead of two. This piece is absolutly amazing, remarkable. So, it seems my suspicions of the existence of a MAIN deity = a central deity like the Staff-god, are correct. It’s just not been proven, yet. Sometimes it takes a bit of time to get such things out and prove them.

2 – Pottery 2 has the torse and head of a person painted on it. Just notice the stretched ears and the “hair cut”, “hair style”. We’ve seen them before on page 262. Just make a visual comparison, it’s not identical, but close enough.

3 – Either it’s a priest or more likely a warrior holding staff type weapons or arrows (spears).

4 – Is a musician or a performer, but did you notice his face and what he is holding? Is that a pan’s flute? Are those tattooes on his face, make-up or paintings?

5 – One (with tattoes or paintings on his face) is holding a staff weapon, maybe an axe as well as arrows and the other is holding a roped skull.

6 – Exquisite craftmanship.

7 – There is a possibility, this female figurine is a tattoed one and she is also giving birth. The head painted we see in a red circle is the child that is coming out = she is giving birth.

These pottery pieces are absolutly magnicficent, I cannot find a word to describe them. But I do encourage anons to take a look at the other Nazca pottery pieces. There are many interesting designs on them. I only put a small sample just to show anons where to look for further research and digging. And maybe anons should compare with the geoglyphs and other designs in the region, not limit yourselves only to the Nazca. I’m not going in there myself, I will remains in the main tunnel but I admit this is interesting research to conduct. Also about the ropped heads, I rather if we don’t rush to conclusion about them being “sacrificial” heads as in human sacrifices, there is a possibility they might be the heads of the ancestors used after they pass away naturally. The skulls could have been cut post mortem for religious and burial ceremonila use. If this is the case, then the entire interpretation of it can totally change. Research more and deeper, sometimes it’s better to wait for new findings before having a conclusive result. I have my doubts about it. They remind me of the pygmy heads.

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“Textiles

The Nazca are also known for their technically complex textiles. The textiles were most likely woven by women at habitation sites from spun cotton and wool.[1] The textiles would have been made using a backstrap loom. This is similar to the way textiles are woven in the region today.[1] Textiles were woven with the common motifs earlier than they appeared painted on pottery. The dry desert has preserved the textiles of both the Nazca and Paracas cultures, which comprise most of what is known about early textiles in the region.”

>> This is funny anons. Because the Paracas and the Nazca textiles found are evidence of very advanced weaving techniques it threw a monkey wrench into the main stream history narrative of the regional textile being primitive, archaic. It turned out it’s NOT. This also shreds the chronology by the way anons, the one presented by the main stream history of course.

“Shawls, dresses, tunics, belts, and bags have been found through excavations at Cahuachi and elsewhere. Many textiles associated with the Nazca culture are garments that were included with grave goods found at burial sites. Almost every body found is wrapped (sometimes partially) in a textile as a part of burial ritual. These textiles are found with partial burials as well. Often piles of bones are found wrapped in a textile garment.[6] The deposits of dresses and shawls contained both high-status garments (with feathers, painting, embroidery) and plain garments, suggesting different social roles or responsibilities.

Mary Frame's extensive analysis of textiles from Cahuachi has revealed more about Nazca women. She noted that although the women are rarely recognized in the archaeological record, they had ready access to high-status materials and the right to wear sacred or potent imagery on their garments.[14] This gave an indication of their status. A large portion of dresses were found portraying birds with speckled bodies, double-headed serpentine figures, and anthropomorphic figures.”

“Nazca Lines

The geoglyphs of Nazca or "Nazca Lines" are a series of geometric shapes, miles of lines, and large drawings of animal figures (some as large as a football field) constructed on the desert floor in the Nazca region.[15] Many theories have arisen about the great geoglyphs. They are believed to have been constructed by large, coordinated work groups of numerous people over an extended period of time, indicating a complex culture that could organize such projects. Researchers have demonstrated techniques to explore how this was done.”

>> If anons believe these were done by hand, using showels and buckets…..think again anons….you just have to look at the scale of these geoglyphs to understand “simple” hand tools couldn’t have done those at this scale. And another question that comes to my mind = how did these geoglyphs withstand wind erosion? Water erosion from humidity? Why aren’t they “damaged” or “defformed” with time by the natural elements? Is there no humidity or wind in the region at ALL?

“By extending a rope between two posts and removing the red pebbles on the desert surface along the rope, the lines could be constructed. The contrast of the red desert pebbles and the lighter earth beneath would make the lines visible from a high altitude. Due to the simplistic construction of the geoglyphs, regular amounts of rainfall would have easily eroded the drawings, but the dry desert environment has preserved the lines for hundreds of years.”

>> So here, they are partially answering my previous question and saying the the DRY weather contributed to preserving the Nazca lines and they were not eroded. Yeah, that works for the water erosion, but what about the wind erosion? And anons….remember the Paracas culture geoglyphs, does it snow there, where they are drawn? I didn’t check because I don’t want to go into this tunnel. But I think anons whom are interested should check if it snows and also the humidity = moisture; not to forget the wind as well. I don’t agree with the idea of these Nazca geoglyph are SIMPLE and just randomly drawn. I think there are quite complex and they have some sort of meaning. Mostly with the fact that these designs were meant to be seen from ABOVE.

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