Anonymous ID: 2f7869 Aug. 24, 2020, 8:57 a.m. No.10402434   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2458

>>10390630

 

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“Scholars have based interpretations about the culture at Teotihuacan on archaeology, the murals that adorn the site (and others, like the Wagner Murals, found in private collections), and hieroglyphic inscriptions made by the Maya describing their encounters with Teotihuacano conquerors. The creation of murals, perhaps tens of thousands of murals, reached its height between 450 and 650. The artistry of the painters was unrivaled in Mesoamerica and has been compared with that of painters in Renaissance Florence, Italy.”

 

>> A small detour is in order here anons. Let’s check what this “Wagner Murals” is about:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Murals

 

“The Wagner Murals are the name for over 70 mural fragments illegally removed from the Pre-Columbian site of Teotihuacán in the 1960s.”

 

>> ILLEGALLY REMOVED. ILLEGALLY REMOVED. Now do tell me anons? = Doesn’t this remind you of the Dendera Zodiac and/or other artifacts (((they))) have “stolen”? Wonder what’s those murals show for them to be stolen by (((them)))? I’m not jumping onto conclusion here anons in saying (((they))) were the ones whom stole those murals because just think of the cost, logistics to cut them out of where the murals are and to transport them INTACT. And whom do you think have the guts to do such a bold thing and not get jailed while the local authorities turn a blind eye on it all, or at least play the ostritch towards it?

 

“Murals of Teotihuacan

 

The murals of Teotihuacán are very different from artistic representations found in neighboring centers. Few aspects of daily life are represented; the murals are predominantly abstract depictions of mythical deities that probably reflect a communal belief system. Teotihuacán is also unique in the fact that, even though it is contemporaneous with initial Mayan centers, there are relatively few hieroglyphic inscriptions. Esther Pasztory, of the Teotihuacán Murals Project, has postulated that they wanted to create an art style distinctly different the preceding Olmec culture and the contemporaneous Mayan centers. They were not interested in displaying a succession of kingship as commonly shown in other cultures of the area.

 

Early murals at the site are generally found located in small temples along the Avenue of the Dead and depict animals such as quetzals and felines as well as various plant varieties. During the Xolalpan stage of Teotihuacán (~AD 400), however, murals could be found in a wider variety of structures including many porticoes of apartment compounds. Additionally, themes of mythical supernatural deities and the increase in hieroglyphic notations led Pasztory to conclude that this change may mark a sort of decentralization within the society.

 

The Wagner Murals may help to show this process of decentralization. One of the best examples of this transition comes from the Feathered Serpents and Flowering Trees mural. While there are depictions of serpents and floral aspects common in early Teotihuacán artwork, within the flowering trees there are relatively rare depictions of simple glyphs. In all, there are four feathered serpents (two from the Wagner Collection) that accompany nine plants each. It has been suggested from some scholars that these nine plants with nine different glyphs may represent the nine lords of the underworld. It also may be one of the first references of the migration myth of the eight tribes of the Aztecs leaving the cave of origin.”

 

>> This is super important anons. The story of Aztlan and the 7 “tribes” (pages 278-279) sounded like “the place of origin” = Atlantis maybe….but now we’ve got 9 plants = possibly 9 tribes? And 4 feathered serpents = wonder what these serpents represent? Are they the cardinal points? Or something like the 4 world trees? All the murals from Teotihuacan are depicting an ancient story, it’s obvious, just by reading this much it’s clear they are telling a tale. Could they be depicting events from before, during and after the cataclysm? Why you think (((they))) resorted to stealing in order to get (((their))) hands on these mural paintings? It’s so obvious those murals are of high importance.

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f7869 Aug. 24, 2020, 9:01 a.m. No.10402458   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2815

>>10402434

 

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“Another predominant theme represented in a number of the Wagner Murals is the image of a figure wearing a three-tassel headdress. Thought to be connected with independent collections called the St. Louis and San Francisco Collections respectively, these figures are presumed to be originally found in Techinantila compound of Teotihuacán. Additional figures of similar form and colorations are found in the Houston and Milwaukee Collections. All of the figures are facing to the right and disks are placed at regular intervals above the depictions. If the proportions of this room were equivalent to those found in Teopancaxco (9mx3.4m), then this mural would have contained 20 figures surrounding the room, possibly led by the Storm God. Additionally, various glyphs under many of these tasseled headdresses may denote the individual names with which they are associated. As there are no discernible borders at the corners where the mural would be adjoined, these figures are thought to have been read continuously as one viewed them from wall to wall. A border of footprints along the top of the mural pieces helps to strengthen this notion.”

 

>> If anons didn’t notice it yet = the SKY deity is not only present in almost all Creation Myths, but it’s always depicted like ….how should I say it? A “benevolent” deity…

 

“While the figures in this particular group seem to represent specific people or deities in Teotihuacán, the three-tassel headdress also seems to become a symbol for the people themselves. In distant areas like Tikal, for example, this three-tassel motif also shows up. On Stela 31 there is a depiction of what may be a military figure with a shield that is adorned with this very symbol. On a further note, the Storm God is always shown with the tassel headdress. Additionally, there are connections of the headdress to Great Goddess as seen in the Tetitla compound. This helps to show how these murals, while out of context, can help growing scholarship on interpretation. These murals could aide in Pasztory's notion of the transition in Teotihuacán culture. In the time of the Wagner Murals, iconography was used denote communal ideology and individual identification as well.

 

Almost all of the fragments were traced back in 1983 and 1984 by Rene Millon to the Techinantitla compound, some 500 yards east of the Avenue of the Dead and Pyramid of the Moon. The remainder of the fragments were traced by Millon to the Tlacuilapaxco compound.”

 

>> The details here are important: Don’t we see the tassel in Free Masonry as one of their symbols? And what about this GREAT GODDESS? What was she like? What were her powers? Did she had a religious “role”/ “connotation” like what we see with the female clay statuette in Ancient Egypt (page 131)? Was she something like a high priestess? Or was she like the Pythia serving as an oracle? = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythia

 

“Origin of the Collection

 

Harald Wagner was born in Falls City, Oregon in 1903. He later went on to obtain a degree in Architecture from the University of Oregon at Eugene. In 1927, Wagner moved to San Francisco and went to work as a draftsman for the architectural firm of Bliss & Faville. It was here that Wagner became adamantly interested in art. Influenced by his mentor, William Faville, and Arthur and Lucia Mathews, popular decor artists in the area, Wagner began to learn and collect art from around the world. In the 1950s, he traveled for the first time to Mexico where he fell in love with the country and its people. He eventually purchased a house there where he lived part-time. It was here that, in the mid-1960s, he began to acquire a collection of mural pieces from the city of Teotihuacán. His combined love of architecture and its various artistic components fueled his collective spirit and his collection quickly grew to over seventy pieces. Although it seems that his original intention of this collection was to sell it for profit, increased awareness of the ethical implications of acquiring such collections nullified their marketability. In the end, Wagner donated the entire collection to the de Young Museum in San Francisco as part of his will shortly following his death in 1976.

 

Since that time, the collection has been extensively studied by numerous academics of Teotihuacán culture. Because of excessive looting at the site of Teotihuacán, scholarship has been very difficult to undertake. Very few murals were known in situ before the emergence of the Wagner Murals. However, they may eventually help us to fully understand the artistic depictions created by the people of Teotihuacán.”

 

>> If we run a background check on this Wagner guy, you think we will find links with (((them))) anons?

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f7869 Oct. 3, 2020, 6:09 a.m. No.10900103   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0173

>>10885286

 

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The geoglyphs aren’t the ONLY fascinating thing in the Paracas culture. They also had another extreme notable feature = ELONGATED SKULL, not just ANY elongated skull, but an elongated skull with RED HAIR. I honestly don’t know which is more IMPORTANT the SHAPE of the SKULL or the COLOR of the HAIR. I don’t know how many anons have been reading what I post from when I started. They KNOW that I’ve asked “help” or information about the elongated skulls and RED hair. A call unanwsered. You think I was asking for it out on a whim anons? I’ve been reading, listening and lurking around and till now I haven’t found the information I’m looking for, all I’ve found was “shallow” stuff. So I’m repeating my call for help about this subject, if the readers of this thread are willing to help unlock this door. For those who wish to help please don’t post ONLY links but post with the link the entire article.

 

Now let’s take a look at those elongated skulls, shall we? First stop is the main stream history explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_cranial_deformation

 

“Artificial cranial deformation or modification, head flattening, or head binding is a form of body alteration in which the skull of a human being is deformed intentionally. It is done by distorting the normal growth of a child's skull by applying force. Flat shapes, elongated ones (produced by binding between two pieces of wood), rounded ones (binding in cloth), and conical ones are among those chosen or valued in various cultures. Typically, the shape alteration is carried out on an infant, as the skull is most pliable at this time. In a typical case, headbinding begins approximately a month after birth and continues for about six months.”

 

>> So according to the Main Stream History the cranial odd shape is due to some type of conditioning or intentional pressuring the skull bones at a very early age = since childhood in order for it to grow in that elongated shape. And the Main Stream History included every single elongated skull in this category. Everything goes in it. I think that is a mistake.

 

“History

 

Intentional cranial deformation predates written history; it was practised commonly in a number of cultures that are widely separated geographically and chronologically, and still occurs today in a few areas, including Vanuatu.”

 

>> So it’s a common practice to many cultures and civilizations not just seperated geographically but chronologically as well. Yet no one ever thought to search for the common root reason behind this practice.

 

“The earliest suggested examples were once thought to include the Proto-Neolithic Homo sapiens component (ninth millennium BC) from Shanidar Cave in Iraq, and Neolithic peoples in Southwest Asia.”

 

>> Remember what I said about the Euphrates being a chronological SPINE. The more you go upstream the older things get. Erbil is way upstream then Uruk and the Sumerian civilization.

 

“The earliest written record of cranial deformation—by Hippocrates, of the Macrocephali or Long-heads, who were named for their practice of cranial modification—dates to 400 BC.”

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f7869 Oct. 3, 2020, 6:18 a.m. No.10900173   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0213

>>10900103

 

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“In the Old World, Huns also are known to have practised similar cranial deformation, as were the people known as the Alans. In Late Antiquity (AD 300–600), the East Germanic tribes who were ruled by the Huns, the Gepids, Ostrogoths, Heruli, Rugii, and Burgundians adopted this custom. Among the Lombards, the Burgundians and the Thuringians, this custom seems to have comprised women only. In western Germanic tribes, artificial skull deformations rarely have been found.”

 

>> This paragraph turned out to be a little treasure. Why? Just take a look at the location of Burgundy. It’s next to? And we are talking about this with the mindset of the Main Stream History narrative of these skulls being the result of the practice of pressure on the skull since infancy to change its form. Not to forget that EAST GERMANY tribes that were ruled by the HUNS. It’s getting interesting. As for Alans, just take a look at a map and see their proximity to Mt Ararat. For all the European and Middle – Eastern found elongated skulls, I give an advise for anons= note location according to Mt Ararat.

 

“The practice of cranial deformation was brought to Bactria and Sogdiana by the tribes who created the Kushan Empire. Men with such skulls are depicted in various surviving sculptures and friezes of that time, such as the Kushan prince of Khalchayan.”

 

>> So it was practiced in India as well. This doesn’t surprise me at all anons and you will find out for yourselves why as I advance in this thread.

 

“In the Americas, the Maya, Inca, and certain tribes of North American natives performed the custom. In North America the practice was known, especially among the Chinookan tribes of the Northwest and the Choctaw of the Southeast. The Native American group known as the Flathead Indians, in fact, did not practise head flattening, but were named as such in contrast to other Salishan people who used skull modification to make the head appear rounder. Other tribes, including both Southeastern tribes like the Choctaw and Northwestern tribes like the Chehalis and Nooksack Indians, practiced head flattening by strapping the infant's head to a cradleboard.”

 

>> So we have this practice in the States as well as in current day Mexico. For some, the Mayan king Pakal’s sarcophagus lid (pages 251-252) is proof of cranial deformation was practiced in Mesoamerica.

 

“The practice of cranial deformation was also practiced by the Lucayan people of the Bahamas, and it was also known among the Aboriginal Australians.

 

In Africa, the Mangbetu stood out to European explorers because of their elongated heads. Traditionally, babies' heads were wrapped tightly with cloth in order to give them this distinctive appearance. The practice began dying out in the 1950s.

 

Friedrich Ratzel reported in 1896 that deformation of the skull, both by flattening it behind and elongating it toward the vertex, was found in isolated instances in Tahiti, Samoa, Hawaii, and the Paumotu group, and that it occurred most frequently on Mallicollo in the New Hebrides (today Malakula, Vanuatu), where the skull was squeezed extraordinarily flat.

 

The custom of binding babies' heads in Europe in the twentieth century, though dying out at the time, was still extant in France, and also found in pockets in western Russia, the Caucasus, and in Scandinavia. The reasons for the shaping of the head varied over time and for different reasons, from aesthetic to pseudoscientific ideas about the brain's ability to hold certain types of thought depending on its shape. In the region of Toulouse (France), these cranial deformations persisted sporadically up until the early twentieth century; however, rather than being intentionally produced as with some earlier European cultures, Toulousian Deformation seemed to have been the unwanted result of an ancient medical practice among the French peasantry known as bandeau, in which a baby's head was tightly wrapped and padded in order to protect it from impact and accident shortly after birth. In fact, many of the early modern observers of the deformation were recorded as pitying these peasant children, whom they believed to have been lowered in intelligence due to the persistence of old European customs.”

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f7869 Oct. 3, 2020, 6:23 a.m. No.10900213   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0241

>>10900173

 

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>> It finally came out, it was said outloud = it was heavily practiced in France for centuries. But it seems the REASON behind this practice changed and varried from one region of the world to another and also depending on the era. I think this is normal, cause the younger generations always tend to “forget” the original reason behind it; take as an example Easter or Christmas = look how they started and what they meant and then, take a look at them NOW, after many generations had passed. We diverged a LOT from the origins, didn’t we?

 

It really is spread worldwide! Even to the remote small islands, as well as downunder. No one ever wondered how is this even possible? And no….it’s not the Aliens! It’s due to something else. Funny how the XVIIIthe dynasty in Ancient Egypt is NOT mentioned at all.

 

“Methods and types

 

Deformation usually begins just after birth for the next couple of years until the desired shape has been reached or the child rejects the apparatus.

 

There is no broadly established classification system of cranial deformations, and many scientists have developed their own classification systems without agreeing on a single system for all forms observed. An example of an individual system is that of E. V. Zhirov, who described three main types of artificial cranial deformation—round, fronto-occipital, and sagittal—for occurrences in Europe and Asia, in the 1940s.”

 

>> No universal classification norms. Oh Boy! For me, this speaks volumes on itself. Why you think there are no universal classification norms for the elongated skulls anons? Think! If those universel classification norms were put in place, it means people worldwide can combine their findings and initial data and they can start analyzing and finding answers to the many questions that arise from the mystery of the elongated skulls = solving the riddle and getting one step closer to the truth. This is done on purpose anons.

 

“Motivations and theories

 

One modern theory is cranial deformation was likely performed to signify group affiliation, or to demonstrate social status. Such motivations may have played a key role in Maya society, aimed at creating a skull shape that is aesthetically more pleasing or associated with desirable cultural attributes. For example, in the Na'ahai-speaking area of Tomman Island and the south south-western Malakulan (Australasia), a person with an elongated head is thought to be more intelligent, of higher status, and closer to the world of the spirits.”

 

>> I agree here. I think the shape of the skull indicates a “social” status, a HIGHER social status. But what was it? WHAT was that makes one HIGHER socially? Was it simply caused simply a strange shape of a skull? Or was the shape of the skull a SIGN of that HIGHER status? Like maybe, having a “special” type of blood? I’m not talking about the blood types like A, B, AB and O, I’m talking about a “special” blood. A blood with special kinda of genes.

 

“Historically, there have been a number of various theories regarding the motivations for these practices.”

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f7869 Oct. 3, 2020, 6:26 a.m. No.10900241   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5022

>>10900213

 

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“It has also been considered possible that the practice of cranial deformation originates from an attempt to emulate those groups of the population in which elongated head shape was a natural condition. The skulls of some Ancient Egyptians are among those identified as often being elongated naturally and macrocephaly may be a familial characteristic. For example, Rivero and Tschudi describe a mummy containing a foetus with an elongated skull, describing it thus:

 

the same formation [i.e. absence of the signs of artificial pressure] of the head presents itself in children yet unborn; and of this truth we have had convincing proof in the sight of a foetus, enclosed in the womb of a mummy of a pregnant woman, which we found in a cave of Huichay, two leagues from Tarma, and which is, at this moment, in our collection. Professor D'Outrepont, of great Celebrity in the department of obstetrics, has assured us that the foetus is one of seven months' age. It belongs, according to a very clearly defined formation of the cranium, to the tribe of the Huancas. We present the reader with a drawing of this conclusive and interesting proof in opposition to the advocates of mechanical action as the sole and exclusive cause of the phrenological form of the Peruvian race.”

 

>> So finally the elongated skulls of Ancient Egypt are mentioned. But here, this paragraph is in full contradiction with what just said earlier as in the elongated skull shape is the result of some HUMAN MANUAL INTERFERENCE by adding some type of pressure or conditioning to the cranial bones of a child. So can’t (((YOU))) make up your mind about it? Lie or say the truth? The momified UNBORN child in the whomb of his mother is a BIG proof that NOT ALL elongated skulls are due to pressure or modification applied after birth. This trashes what was said in the beginning of this Wikipedia page. In turn, this helps us in deviding the elongated skulls into 2 categories = 1 – Those naturally born with it. 2 – Those which were modified after birth.

 

“P. F. Bellamy makes a similar observation about the two elongated skulls of infants, which were discovered and brought to England by a "Captain Blankley" and handed over to the Museum of the Devon and Cornwall Natural History Society in 1838. According to Bellamy, these skulls belonged to two infants, female and male, "one of which was not more than a few months old, and the other could not be much more than one year." He writes,

 

It will be manifest from the general contour of these skulls that they are allied to those in the Museum of the College of Surgeons in London, denominated Titicacans. Those adult skulls are very generally considered to be distorted by the effects of pressure; but in opposition to this opinion Dr. Graves has stated that "a careful examination of them has convinced him that their peculiar shape cannot be owing to artificial pressure;" and to corroborate this view, we may remark that the peculiarities are as great in the child as in the adult, and indeed more in the younger than in the elder of the two specimens now produced: and the position is considerably strengthened by the great relative length of the large bones of the cranium; by the direction of the plane of the occipital bone, which is not forced upwards, but occupies a place in the under part of the skull; by the further absence of marks of pressure, there being no elevation of the vertex nor projection of either side; and by the fact of there being no instrument nor mechanical contrivance suited to produce such an alteration of form (as these skulls present) found in connexion with them.”

 

Health effects

 

There is no statistically significant difference in cranial capacity between artificially deformed skulls and normal skulls in Peruvian samples.”

 

>> So it doesn’t affect the brain’s capacity. Good to know.

 

That was the Main Stream History explanation of the elongated skulls shape. I think anons also noticed that I hinted to the Frank and German Tribes adoption of this practice. From there, you can retrace it all the way to current day bloodlines and it answers the whys and the hows. Veteran anons in the Awakening know what I mean here.

 

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