>>10679972

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In the first one we see how humans abandon the old settlements and move to areas where the living conditions are better. This is due to many factors, including the weather and the demographics among others. We see this happening mostly in Mesopotamia and everywhere this phenomenon happened, it left behind it a trail of ancient Tells.

In the second one the spotlight is on the irrigation system. We’ve seen this in all major civilizations of Mesoamerica, in Ancient Egypt and in Mesopotamia. The advanced knowledge of irrigation and how to “tame” the land for farming and irrigate it is no easy task. It’s proof of high and advanced knowledge in architecture, engineering, farming and irrigation methods. It doesn’t happen overnight mostly turning swamps or arid lands into fertile and productive ones.

“Geographical links

Cultural links with the highland areas have been noted by archaeologists. In particular, the links with the Kotosh Religious Tradition have been suggested.

Numerous architectural features found among the settlements of Supe, including subterranean circular courts, stepped pyramids and sequential platforms, as well as material remains and their cultural implications, excavated at Aspero and the valley sites we are digging (Caral, Chupacigarro, Lurihuasi, Miraya), are shared with other settlements of the area that participated in what is known as the Kotosh Religious Tradition. Most specific among these features are rooms with benches and hearths with subterranean ventilation ducts, wall niches, biconvex beads, musical flutes, etc.”

>> Step pyramids, subterranean CIRCULAR courts, ventilation ducts etc…. It’s absolutely amazing! All of the things mentioned in this paragraph are proof of advanced knowledge and techniques. And yet, the pre-Columbian Andean civilizations, including Norte Chico didn’t get the attention of the alternative history. The architectural constructions in Norte Chico MIGHT end up being the oldest in the Andes. I also want to draw attention to the pyramid being a STEP pyramid and not being flat surfaces. This is important because I’ve stated before that step pyramids are built by Flood survivors (after the Flood) while the flat surface ones were built before the Flood occurred. And right now, the tiny information I’ve got from Norte Chico is another piece confirming what I’ve stated.

“Maritime coast and agricultural interior

Research into Norte Chico continues, with many unsettled questions. Debate is ongoing over two related questions: the degree to which the flourishing of the Norte Chico was based on maritime food resources, and the exact relationship this implies between the coastal and inland sites.

Confirmed diet

A broad outline of the Norte Chico diet has been suggested. At Caral, the edible domesticated plants noted by Shady are squash, beans, lúcuma, guava, pacay (Inga feuillei), and sweet potato.[8] Haas et al. noted the same foods in their survey further north, while adding avocado and achira. In 2013, good evidence for maize was also documented by Haas et al. (see below).

There was also a significant seafood component at both coastal and inland sites. Shady notes that "animal remains are almost exclusively marine" at Caral, including clams and mussels, and large amounts of anchovies and sardines.[8] That the anchovy fish reached inland is clear,[1] although Haas suggests that "shellfish [which would include clams and mussels], sea mammals, and seaweed do not appear to have been significant portions of the diet in the inland, non-maritime sites".

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>>10692776

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“Theory of a maritime foundation for Andean civilization

The role of seafood in the Norte Chico diet has aroused debate. Much early fieldwork was done in the region of Aspero on the coast, before the full scope and inter-connectedness of the several sites of the civilization were realized. In a 1973 paper, Michael E. Moseley contended that a maritime subsistence (seafood) economy had been the basis of the society and its remarkably early flourishing,[6] a theory later elaborated as a "maritime foundation of Andean civilization" (MFAC).[18][19] He also confirmed a previously observed lack of ceramics at Aspero, and deduced that "hummocks" on the site constituted the remains of artificial platform mounds.

This thesis of a maritime foundation was contrary to the general scholarly consensus that the rise of civilization was based on intensive agriculture, particularly of at least one cereal. The production of agricultural surpluses had long been seen as essential in promoting population density and the emergence of complex society. Moseley's ideas would be debated and challenged (that maritime remains and their caloric contribution were overestimated, for example)[20] but have been treated as plausible as late as Mann's summary of the literature in 2005.

Concomitant to the maritime subsistence hypothesis was an implied dominance of sites immediately adjacent to the coast over other centers. This idea was shaken by the realization of the magnitude of Caral, an inland site. Supplemental to Shady's 1997 article dating Caral, a 2001 Science news article emphasized the dominance of agriculture and also suggested that Caral was the oldest urban center in Peru (and the entire Americas). It deprecated the idea that civilization might have begun adjacent to the coast and then moved inland. One archaeologist was quoted as suggesting that "rather than coastal antecedents to monumental inland sites, what we have now are coastal satellite villages to monumental inland sites".

>> My findings support the second theory = it started inland and then moved to the coast later on. Remember anons, we are talking about a cataclysm here where a GREAT Flood occurred. So you got to question the sea water level and how it gradually retreated. We’ve seen plenty of evidence that the Giza pyramids were completely submerged in sea water, but if we look at them nowadays it’s clear that the water SLOWLY retreated. So if this is good for Giza, why cannot it be good for Norte Chico? We are talking about a CATACLYSM after all.

“These assertions were quickly challenged by Sandweiss and Moseley, who observed that Caral, though the largest and most complex Preceramic site, is not the oldest. They admitted the importance of agriculture to industry and to augment diet, while broadly affirming "the formative role of marine resources in early Andean civilization".[21] Scholars now agree that the inland sites did have significantly greater populations, and that there were "so many more people along the four rivers than on the shore that they had to have been dominant".

The remaining question is which of the areas developed first and created a template for subsequent development.[22] Haas rejects suggestions that maritime development at sites immediately adjacent to the coast was initial, pointing to contemporaneous development based on his dating.[2] Moseley remains convinced that coastal Aspero is the oldest site, and that its maritime subsistence served as a basis for the civilization.”

>> It’s incredible how quickly (((they))) come out to debunk and/or discredit the person who came up with the theory that challenges/wrecks (((their))) narrative. I’m sure if we did a background check on those “supposed” experts we will find whom doesn’t want the truth to come out. Like what Qteam says : “follow the money”.

Sometimes anons, Qteam drops make me feel like we are living in the story of Hansel and Gretel where we are following the breadcrumbs that will eventually lead us to the WITCH. From Potus tweets: “Witch Hunt!”

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>>10692789

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“Cotton and food sources

Cotton (of the species Gossypium barbadense) likely provided the basis of the dominance of inland over coast (whether development was earlier, later, or contemporaneous).[1][12] Though not edible, it was the most important product of irrigation in the Norte Chico, vital to the production of fishing nets (that in turn provided maritime resources) as well as to textiles and textile technology. Haas notes that "control over cotton allows a ruling elite to provide the benefit of cloth for clothing, bags, wraps, and adornment".[12] He is willing to admit to a mutual dependency dilemma: "The prehistoric residents of the Norte Chico needed the fish resources for their protein and the fishermen needed the cotton to make the nets to catch the fish."[12] Thus, identifying cotton as a vital resource produced in the inland does not by itself resolve the issue of whether the inland centers were a progenitor for the coast, or vice versa. Moseley argues that successful maritime centers would have moved inland to find cotton.[1] The exact relationship between food resources and political organization remains unresolved.”

>> It can be easily resolved if you add to the equation a GREAT FLOOD and how fast water retreaded.

“Norte Chico's development is particularly remarkable for the apparent absence of a staple food. However, recent studies increasingly dispute this and point to maize as a dietary backbone of this and later pre-Columbian civilizations.[23] Moseley found a small number of maize cobs in 1973 at Aspero (also seen in site work in the 1940s and '50s)[6] but has since called the find "problematic".[21] However, increasing evidence has emerged about the importance of maize in this period:

Archaeological testing at a number of sites in the Norte Chico region of the north central coast provides a broad range of empirical data on the production, processing, and consumption of maize. New data drawn from coprolites, pollen records, and stone tool residues, combined with 126 radiocarbon dates, demonstrate that maize was widely grown, intensively processed, and constituted a primary component of the diet throughout the period from 3000 to 1800 BC.”

“Social organization

Government

The Norte Chico chiefdoms were "almost certainly theocratic, though not brutally so", according to Mann. Construction areas show possible evidence of feasting, which would have included music and likely alcohol, suggesting an elite able to both mobilize and reward the population.[1] The degree of centralized authority is difficult to ascertain, but architectural construction patterns are indicative of an elite that, at least in certain places at certain times, wielded considerable power: while some of the monumental architecture was constructed incrementally, other buildings, such as the two main platform mounds at Caral,[8] appear to have been constructed in one or two intense construction phases.[12] As further evidence of centralized control, Haas points to remains of large stone warehouses found at Upaca, on the Pativilca, as emblematic of authorities able to control vital resources such as cotton.

Haas suggests that the labour mobilization patterns revealed by the archaeological evidence point to a unique emergence of human government, one of two alongside Sumer (or three, if Mesoamerica is included as a separate case). While in other cases, the idea of government would have been borrowed or copied, in this small group, government was invented. Other archaeologists have rejected such claims as hyperbolic.”

>> I’m sure they did, depending on how fat and juicy the pay checks were.

I didn’t say it, it’s written in the article = connection to Sumer and Mesoamerica.

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>>10692797

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“In exploring the basis of possible government, Haas suggests three broad bases of power for early complex societies:

• economic,

• ideology, and

• physical.

He finds the first two present in ancient Norte Chico.

Economic

Economic authority would have rested on the control of cotton and edible plants and associated trade relationships, with power centered on the inland sites. Haas tentatively suggests that the scope of this economic power base may have extended widely: there are only two confirmed shore sites in the Norte Chico (Aspero and Bandurria) and possibly two more, but cotton fishing nets and domesticated plants have been found up and down the Peruvian coast. It is possible that the major inland centers of Norte Chico were at the center of a broad regional trade network centered on these resources.

Discover magazine, citing Shady, suggests a rich and varied trade life: "[Caral] exported its own products and those of Aspero to distant communities in exchange for exotic imports: Spondylus shells from the coast of Ecuador, rich dyes from the Andean highlands, hallucinogenic snuff from the Amazon."[24] (Given the still limited extent of Norte Chico research, such claims should be treated circumspectly.) Other reports on Shady's work indicate Caral traded with communities in the jungle farther inland and, possibly, with people from the mountains.”

>> The elaborated trade network is a sign of advance knowledge. A new born society won’t have such elaborate and spread out trading network nor would they have the means to import “exotic” items. Only advance civilizations and knowledge in economics can achieve that.

“Ideology

Leaders' ideological power was based on apparent access to deities and the supernatural.[12] Evidence regarding Norte Chico religion is limited: an image of the Staff God, a leering figure with a hood and fangs, has been found on a gourd dated to 2250 BC. The Staff God is a major deity of later Andean cultures, and Winifred Creamer suggests the find points to worship of common symbols of gods. As with much other research at Norte Chico, the nature and significance of the find has been disputed by other researchers.

The act of architectural construction and maintenance may also have been a spiritual or religious experience: a process of communal exaltation and ceremony.[22] Shady has called Caral "the sacred city" (la ciudad sagrada[7]): socio-economic and political focus was on the temples, which were periodically remodeled, with major burnt offerings associated with the remodeling.”

>> It’s obvious a lot of additional digging, unearthing, research and studying need to be done on Norte Chico (all aspects of it). I believe this site is far from revealing its secrets to us. We’ve barely scratched the surface of all the “treasures” discovered there.

“Physical

Haas notes the absence of any suggestion of physical bases of power, that is, defensive construction. There is no evidence of warfare "of any kind or at any level during the Preceramic Period".[12] Mutilated bodies, burned buildings, and other tell-tale signs of violence are absent, and settlement patterns are completely non-defensive.[22] The evidence of the development of complex government in the absence of warfare is in marked contrast to archaeological theory, which suggests that human beings move away from kin-based groups to larger units resembling "states" for mutual defense of often scarce resources. A vital resource was present: arable land generally, and the cotton crop specifically, but the move to greater complexity was apparently not driven by the need for defense or warfare.”

>> Interesting.

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>>10692804

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A quick look to this Staff god is in order before we continue with Norte Chico:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staff_God

“The Staff God is a major deity in Andean cultures. Usually pictured holding a staff in each hand, with fanged teeth and splayed and clawed feet, his other characteristics are unknown, although he is often pictured with snakes in his headdress or clothes. He is known as Viracocha in the Incan religion.

The oldest known depiction of the Staff God was found in 2003 on some broken gourd fragments in a burial site in the Pativilca River Valley (Norte Chico region) and carbon dated to 2250 BCE. This makes it the oldest image of a god to be found in the Americas.

are scholars who maintain that the Wari-Tiwanaku Staff God is the forerunner of the Incan principal gods, Sun, Moon, and Thunder.[2] As the chief deity, it was considered the creator god and served as the primary religious icon of the entire Peruvian Andes, particularly during the Early Horizon (900-200 B.C.) and beyond.[3] The worship of this deity spread to the Central Andes during the Middle Horizon (600-1000 A.D.)[4] This is supported by excavated Middle Horizon artifacts that resembled the Staff-God.”

“Representations and iconography

The staff god was a basic iconography shared by the cultures of pre-Columbian Peru, particularly those occupying the northern coast and the southern highlands.[6] This is seen in the stylistic uniformity of the icons and representations, which suggested widespread adherence.

There were varying depictions of the Staff-God among these Andean cultures. However, it was often portrayed as a deity in apotheosis, with hands always holding instruments of power.[8] For instance, an artifact found at Chavin de Huantar showed the deity holding a Spondylus and Strombus shells, which were female and male symbols, respectively. This representation indicated how the Staff-God wielded authority to maintain social harmony and the Andean ideal of gender complementarity.[3] Another Early Horizon sculpted stone, the Raimondi Stele, is perhaps the most popular representation and depicted the Staff-God as a sky or lightning god plunging down to earth.”

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>>10692810

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“Representations of the southern highland staff god did not only carry motifs but were also presented with accompanying consorts in the form of deities painted on textiles used to decorate temple walls or ceramic vessels.

The Staff God has one of the most important iconographical elements in central Andean archaeology and this is prominent in both portable and fixed art using different media such as stone, textile, and ceramic.[9] A form of the staff god, for example, takes a central role in the Sun Gate of the Tiwanaku culture, a single-stone monolith. Tunics and ceramics from both the Tiwanaku and Wari cultures of the Middle Horizon period showcase a similar god. Another example is the giant offering jars found at Qunchupata. They were painted with the Staff-God's image, one that bears resemblance to the god's depiction at the back of the Tiwanako's Ponce Monolith.”

>> This Staff-God is truly fascinating.

Let’s take a closer look at it, shall we? I’ve put 2 pictures of the same so that anons can have a clean picture to work with. In the second one I’ve noticed some details:

1 – The feathered headdress of the god. How many feathered headdresses have we seen so far anons?

2 - He is standing on what looks like an elevated podium. On this podium, we have 4 vertically represented head of birds, as if they were 4 columns which in turn remind me of the columns on Narmer’s waist of his palette (page 124). It also reminds me of the 4 columns of the Dendera zodiac (pages 108-109) and the 4 World Trees with the Aztec (page 270). Strangely enough it has been making me wonder for some time if those 4 columns are more than the 4 cardinal points, as in MAYBE they could also represent the 4 MAIN elements = water, earth, fire and air. These are just some thoughts said out loud anons. I might be totally wrong on this one. I’m still thinking about this. Only wanted to share my thoughts for now.

There are additional 4 birds = 2 on each side of the “column” birds….they have smooth long bodies with only the head of a bird. These might be the 4 regional rivers of Norte Chico. I think all of these 8 birds are birds of prey which 4 of them can also be found in the headdress between the feathers; and at the handle of the “staffs” held by this Staff-god. If the 4 lateral birds are the 4 rivers of the region, can the 4 “column” birds represent the mountains of the region? Just some thoughts there anons. This is new to me as well and I’m trying to figure it out.

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>>10692823

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3 – At the center of the podium there is some type of symbol or glyphs displayed inside a square. The chances are high this is a SEAL or heraldic related symbol of some sort. But it also reminded me of the “CUBE” I’ve mentioned in page 207. If the cube is some sort of “energy” generator or source then the 8 “birds” we see coming out of it MIGHT actually be rays = light rays. Sounds strange to anons? Well it shouldn’t surprise anons if you compare it with the iconography of Sun deities, mostly Ra from Ancient Egypt. This needs further research.

4 – If anons look closely to the podium itself, they will find out it has a very interesting shape = it has degrees = like a step pyramid or more closely to a ziggurat or the elevated platform on which the Mesoamerican temples were built upon. And to make it even more interesting it seems there are 2 “pillars” like thing on each side of the podium and on top of each pillar there is this animal head. It could be a fish head, but I’m more inclined to interpret it as a snake head. It’s true that the region depended heavily on seafood, so this is where the fish comparison comes from. But as I just mentioned, I’m more inclined to interpret this as a snake head because of the steps on the podium reminds me of the elevated platform of the Mesoamerican temples. I’m trying to say that I see this podium like the temple from Chichen Niza picture I’ve attached with this page.

5 – The Staff-God is wearing some sort of tunic and on the lower end of the tunic we see 6 faces. If we add the Staff yielding deity that makes 7 of them in total. I see HIM as one “superior” or “ruling” over the 6 others. If this Staff-god is a supreme god as in the head of the pantheon, then I understand very well how he is the leader or the head and he has 6 others gods under him.

6 – Resting on the waist band, right in the middle, believe it or not, I see a SPHINX. Super crazy, right? Another fabulous animal so far away from Ancient Egypt and the Giza plateau. I guess some in the Main stream history can argue and say this looks like the sacrificial alter used for human sacrifice. Well anons, you have eyes, take a look and make up your own mind about this.

7 – I’m going to talk a bit about these staffs this deity is holding. As mentioned before they’ve got what looks like bird head shaped handles, which can point to it as being a sky deity weapon. These can be interpreted as being staffs, but they can also be as blade weapons as in swords, a fancy design axes or something similar to the Japanese Naginata. Whatever it is, it seems it’s some type of weapon but it’s unclear what it’s made of. I mean is it a blade type of weapon or it’s some type of high tech weapon with electric or magnetic type, or even maybe laser type of beam. We’ve already seen 2 weapons of this sort = high tech: 1 – Eye of Ra (pages 69 to 71) and 2 – Xiuhcoatl (page 278). A visual comparison makes me believe these “staffs” are something close to Xiuhcoatl. It can also be something like what the soldiers/guardians of Ra use as weapons in the movie Stargate (image in page 205) = some type of energy weapon. We have an even better picture of them in the movie the Avengers (the first one), it’s the weapon used by the Chitauri footsoldier. I’m starting to feel like these tech stuffs we see in the movies are not created out of the imagination of the designers, but….they might be taken from actual objects that USED to exist. The similarities between the Chitauri footsoldier weapon and the “staff” held by this Staff-god is striking. While the second type of weapons used in that same movie by the footsoldier of the Chitauri is almost identical to what Zorg uses in the Fifth Element movie (image in page 134). Talking about a coincidence there! Or MAYBE, just maybe, it’s not a coincidence.

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