Anonymous ID: 9deffb Nov. 26, 2020, 8:15 a.m. No.11795763   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5802

>>11778748

 

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“Controversy over "White God"

 

The first Spanish chroniclers from the 16th century made no mention of any identification with Viracocha. The first to do so was Pedro Cieza de León in 1553. Similar accounts by Spanish chroniclers (e.g. Juan de Betanzos) describe Viracocha as a "white god", often with a beard. The whiteness of Viracocha is however not mentioned in the native authentic legends of the Incas and most modern scholars therefore had considered the "white god" story to be a post-conquest Spanish invention.”

 

>> No explanation provided on why the Spaniards declared this deity to be a “white god”. What’s the reason behind such claims?

 

“In this quote the beard is represented as a dressing of feathers, fitting comfortably with academic impressions of Mesoamerican art. The story, however, does not mention whether Viracocha had facial hair or not with the point of outfitting him with a mask and symbolic feathered beard being to cover his unsightly appearance because as Viracocha said "If ever my subjects were to see me, they would run away!" While descriptions of Viracocha's physical appearance are open to interpretation, men with beards were frequently depicted by the Peruvian Moche culture in its famous pottery, long before the arrival of the Spanish. Modern advocates of theories such as a pre-Columbian European migration to Peru cite these bearded ceramics and Viracocha's beard as being evidence for an early presence of non-Amerindians in Peru. Although most Indians do not have heavy beards, there are groups reported to have included bearded individuals, such as the Aché people of Paraguay, who also have light skin but who are not known to have any admixture with Europeans and Africans. When the Southern Paiute were first contacted by Europeans in 1776, the report by fathers Silvestre Vélez de Escalante and Francisco Atanasio Domínguez noted that "Some of the men had thick beards and were thought to look more in appearance like Spanish men than native Americans.”

 

>> Well anons, we’ve seen this notion of “WHITES” being present in the Mesoamerican and South American continent before in this thread, but it’s always supposedly debunked or refuted or simply rejected as being silly. I’ve also mentioned before that my first thoughts were of some sort of passage via the strait of Bering or something like that. But that changed and I will be talking about it when I reach it. I’m very interested in the FACE of Viracocha and why he kept it hidden. He did say according to this last paragraph that if “his subjects” saw his face, they would run away. So let’s stop here a bit: “his subjects” isn’t that word used by rulers as kings and emperors to describ the ones they govern? This implies that Viracocha RULED as a king or filled a role similar to it.

 

Also what’s wrong with his face? Was it terribly scared? Burnt? Totally deformed? Was there some sort of anomaly? Was it due to an accident or by birth = biological, genetical? Or….there is another possibility, a strange one = did he look different from us, the rest of the humans? We already know there are elongated skulls in Tiwanaku and Titicaca Lake = places of origin of Viracocha myths. From archaeological iconography and from the structures built in Tiwanaku, we’ve got hints of Viracocha might be a giant, or should I say bigger in size than nowadays normal human. All 3 combined it makes one believe he looked different than normal humans; different enough to startle or scare the normal human….And people like him weren’t seen often, as in there were not MANY looking like him. I believe this has lead a lot of researcher to think of genes from aliens or fallen angels and God knows what.

 

What if the answer has always been right in front of our eyes and we never saw it because we didn’t put the pieces of this giant puzzle together? Let’s leave it here for now.

 

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Anonymous ID: 9deffb Nov. 26, 2020, 8:19 a.m. No.11795802   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5491

>>11795763

 

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“Representation of Wiracochan or Tunupa at Ollantaytambo

 

A representation of the messenger of Viracocha named Wiracochan or Tunupa is shown in the small village of Ollantaytambo, southern Peru. Ollantaytambo located in the Cusco Region makes up a chain of small villages along the Urubamba Valley. Known as the Sacred Valley, it was an important stronghold of the Inca Empire. Facing the ancient Inca ruins of Ollantaytambo in the rock face of Cerro Pinkuylluna is the 140-metre-high figure of Wiracochan. The angry-looking formation of his face is made up of indentations that form the eyes and mouth, whilst a protruding carved rock denotes the nose. Inca ruins built on top of the face are also considered to represent a crown on his head. Artists' impressions of the rock face also include a heavy beard and a large sack upon his shoulders.

 

The effigy of Viracocha/Tunupa at Ollantaytambo has been highlighted among others by Fernando and Edgar Elorrieta Salazar. Wiracochan, the pilgrim preacher of knowledge, the master of time, is described as a person with superhuman power, a bearded tall man dressed as priest or astronomer.”

 

>> Oh my! This sums up very well what I’ve been saying about him. I like how he is described as TALL with superhuman power and dressed as a priest….but do not forget, he also had subjects he ruled over….so does that makes him a king-priest? Incredible how this “forgotten” concept was ignored by both Main Stream History and the Alternative History.

 

“Conversion to Christianity

 

Spanish scholars and chroniclers provide many insights regarding the identity of Viracocha.

 

  1. Bartolomé de las Casas states that viracocha means "creator of all things"

  2. Juan de Betanzos confirms the above in saying that "We may say that Viracocha is God"

  3. Polo, Sarmiento de Gamboa, Blas Valera and Acosta all reference Viracocha as a creator

  4. Guamán Poma, an indigenous chronicler, considers the term "viracocha" to be equivalent to "creator"

 

Other authors such as Garcilaso de la Vega, Betanzos, and Pedro de Quiroga hold that Viracocha wasn't the original name of "God" for the Incas. According to Garcilaso, the name of God in the language of the Incas was "Pachamama", not Viracocha. Nevertheless, Spanish interpreters generally attributed the identity of supreme creator to Viracocha during the initial years of colonization.

 

According to Antoinette Molinié Fioravanti, Spanish clergymen began to equate the "God of creation" with Viracocha in an attempt to combat the polytheistic worship of the Incas, which in their view was idolatrous. The existence of a "supreme God" in the Incan view was used by the clergy to demonstrate that the revelation of a single, universal God was "natural" for the human condition.

 

[…]The decision to use the term "God" in place of "Viracocha" is seen as the first step in the evangelization of the Incas. The reasoning behind this strategy includes the fact that it was likely difficult to explain the Christian idea of "God" to the Incas, who failed to understand the concept. In addition, replacing reference to Viracocha with "God" facilitated the substitution of the local concept of divinity with Christian theology.”

 

>> This is understandable because of the similarity between Christian belief and Viracocha.

 

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