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Anonymous ID: 9d90a6 May 24, 2020, 5:51 p.m. No.9304081   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4145 >>4170 >>4344 >>4432

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  1. Antibody tests showing 4-20% antibody rate implying 80x the reported case numbers

What does this mean? This supports point #3 below, the asyptomatic rate is 80-90%, that it has already been spreading for months and is largely harmless.

 

  1. 99% of deaths are with 2+ comorbidities with a median age of 81.

What does this mean? This means that the average fatality rate is incredibly low, if not only high for elderly populations which we should protect.

 

  1. 80-90% of cases are asymptomatic

What does this mean? that this also reduces death rate and that people below 65 will be fine.

 

  1. Total Mortality is still lower nationally, globally

What does this mean? That the deaths we are seeing from upper respitory infection are normal. If covid19 was making the world die faster, we should see an increase total mortality. For reference, 150k people die every day and 100k of those are age related (Point 1)

 

  1. Covid deaths are rising, but still less than the flu and upper respitory infection deaths

What does this mean? DO NOT COMPARE IT TO THE FLU. IT IS NOT THE FLU. This means that the deaths we are seeing are normal per flu season and that the points 1 and 2 will support that most people will be fine.

 

  1. Lockdown for 18 months has a 10% effective rate

What does this mean? People still think the lockdown is only a month or a few weeks. This shows them that it is a minimum of 8 months or a max of 18 months, which any reasonable person will agree that is impossible. If they Still think it should be locked down after, point the to point X where we go over economic damage.

 

  1. Testing is weak, unreliable, inaccurate

What does this mean? That Case # is going to increase, especially because the tests have an 80% false positive rate. The test can ring positive for the common cold.

 

  1. Epidemiologists, virologists, medical staticians against lockdown

What does this mean? That "not all doctors" advocate for lockdown. Doctors are not experts in economics and they are also not experts in infectuous disease. The people who legitimately devote their lives to studying viruses and disease argue against the lockdown. DO NOT JUST APPEAL TO AUTHORITY AND SAY YOU ARE RIGHT BECAUSE OF THAT.

 

  1. Economic impact of shutdown

What does this mean? This highlights how the negative impact of shutdown is significantly larger than the actual virus, even with its inaccurate and grossly exaggerated models.

 

  1. Fake News

What does this mean? Do not trust the media, as they are overhyping it and sensationalizing things without accurately reporting and in some instances outright faking information.

Anonymous ID: 9d90a6 May 24, 2020, 5:51 p.m. No.9304087   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4145 >>4170 >>4344 >>4432

Antibody tests showing high asymptomatic rate and low mortality

https://www.businessinsider.com/nyc-residents-coronavirus-antibodies-study-cuomo-2020-4?op=1

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/early-antibody-testing-indicates-far-more-covid-19-cases-lower-mortality-rate/2349275/

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/17/santa-clara-covid-19-antibody-study-suggests-broad-asymptomatic-spread.html

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/20/838943211/73-of-inmates-at-an-ohio-prison-test-positive-for-coronavirus

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/494670-ninety-six-percent-of-inmates-in-four-state-prisons-who-tested-positive

https://www.redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2020/04/24/florida-antibody-study-backs-up/

https://spectator.us/covid-antibody-test-german-town-shows-15-percent-infection-rate/

https://www.rt.com/news/486471-sweden-contracted-coronavirus-antibody-study/

https://www.foxnews.com/science/third-blood-samples-massachusetts-study-coronavirus

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/20/coronavirus-antibody-study-shows-covid-19-far-more/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8208613/Scientists-awaiting-results-thousands-antibody-tests-California-Colorado.html

 

 

 

===>99% comorbidities and median age of 81 and covid did not play role in death

https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/sars-cov-2-decessi-italia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M4kbPDHGR0&feature=youtu.be&t=210

https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_17_marzo-v2.pdf

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19-Pandemie_in_Deutschland#Todesf%C3%A4lle_in_den_Medien

https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/coronavirus-in-der-schweiz-die-neusten-entwicklungen-ld.1542664#subtitle-wie-viele-infizierte-und-todesf-lle-gibt-es-second

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says

https://web.archive.org/web/20200324214448/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/

https://swprs.org/rki-relativiert-corona-todesfaelle/

https://swprs.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/die-lage-in-norwegen.pdf

 

==>Death rate significantly lower, 80-90% of cases being asymptomatic

https://www.repubblica.it/salute/medicina-e-ricerca/2020/03/16/news/coronavirus_studio_il_50-75_dei_casi_a_vo_sono_asintomatici_e_molto_contagiosi-251474302/

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.12.20022434v2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBB9bA-gXL4

https://swprs.org/rki-relativiert-corona-todesfaelle/

https://www.niid.go.jp/niid/en/2019-ncov-e/9407-covid-dp-fe-01.html

https://www.cybermednews.eu/index.php/it/health/70871-interview-to-the-virologist-giulio-tarro-the-death-rate-of-covid-19-is-less-than-1-as-confirmed-by-the-national-institute-of-allergy-and-infectious-diseases

https://web.archive.org/web/20200325103650/https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-the-coronavirus-as-deadly-as-they-say-11585088464

https://www.repubblica.it/salute/medicina-e-ricerca/2020/03/16/news/coronavirus_studio_il_50-75_dei_casi_a_vo_sono_asintomatici_e_molto_contagiosi-251474302/

https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/coronavirus-testing-iceland

https://www.santepubliquefrance.fr/maladies-et-traumatismes/maladies-et-infections-respiratoires/infection-a-coronavirus/documents/bulletin-national/covid-19-point-epidemiologique-du-24-mars-2020

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/

=>Total Mortality still lower

https://swprs.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/reppublica-treviso.jpg

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/30/covid19-yet-to-impact-europes-overall-morta

https://swprs.org/open-letter-from-professor-sucharit-bhakdi-to-german-chancellor-dr-angela-merkel/

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/30/covid19-yet-to-impact-europes-overall-mortality/

https://www.ecodibergamo.it/stories/bergamo-citta/a-bergamo-decessi-4-volte-oltre-la-medialeco-lancia-unindagine-nei-comuni_1346651_11/

https://www.santepubliquefrance.fr/maladies-et-traumatismes/maladies-et-infections-respiratoires/infection-a-coronavirus/documents/bulletin-national/covid-19-point-epidemiologique-du-24-mars-2020

https://www.euromomo.eu/index.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51979654

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/coronavirus/italy-coronavirus-deaths-surge-by-627-in-a-day-lifting-total-death-toll-to-4032/ar-BB11tDnS

https://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/gesundheit/coronavirus/neue-corona-symptome-entdeckt-virologe-hendrik-streeck-zum-virus-16681450.html?printPagedArticle=true#pageIndex_2

http://www.gbe-bund.de/gbe10/abrechnung.prc_abr_test_logon?p_uid=gast&p_aid=0&p_knoten=FID&p_sprache=D&p_suchstring=820

Anonymous ID: 9d90a6 May 24, 2020, 5:52 p.m. No.9304093   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4145 >>4170 >>4344 >>4432

Covid deaths and illness less than the flu

https://twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/1243019315462516736

https://influenza.rki.de/Wochenberichte/2019_2020/2020-13.pdf

https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(19)30328-5/fulltext

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2095096/

https://milano.corriere.it/notizie/cronaca/18_gennaio_10/milano-terapie-intensive-collasso-l-influenza-gia-48-malati-gravi-molte-operazioni-rinviate-c9dc43a6-f5d1-11e7-9b06-fe054c3be5b2.shtml

 

==>Proof Lockdown has at best a 10% reduction in spreading and has no effect on total mortality

**Spreading is 50% slower https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-similarities-and-differences-covid-19-and-influenza

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-similarities-and-differences-covid-19-and-influenza

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/03/20/national/coronavirus-explosion-expected-japan/

 

 

 

==>Testing is weak, inaccurate, unreliable, deaths are stacked

**Covid deaths now no longer requires testing, confirmation of covid actually in system https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf

 

**Covid19 shares same genetic profile of normal cold corona viruses

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2095096/

 

**Covid-19 tests test for same DNA in coronaviruses in common cold

https://www.hopkinsguides.com/hopkins/view/Johns_Hopkins_ABX_Guide/540747/all/Coronavirus_COVID_19__SARS_CoV_2_

 

https://multipolar-magazin.de/artikel/coronavirus-irrefuhrung-fallzahlen

https://www.secoloditalia.it/2020/03/coronavirus-la-gismondo-ammonisce-duramente-basta-snocciolare-numeri-sui-positivi-sono-dati-falsati/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSn_YaOYYcY

https://www.heute.at/s/osterreich-bei-corona-todesstatistik-sehr-liberal-48665863

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/COVID-19-safe-handling-of-bodies-or-persons-dying-from-COVID19.pdf

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/30/uks-attempt-ramp-coronavirus-testing-hindered-key-components/

https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home/krankheiten/ausbrueche-epidemien-pandemien/aktuelle-ausbrueche-epidemien/novel-cov/situation-schweiz-und-international.html

https://twitter.com/FScholkmann/status/1246122535793680386

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/nyregion/new-rochelle-coronavirus.html

https://coronadaten.wordpress.com/

https://multipolar-magazin.de/artikel/coronavirus-irrefuhrung-fallzahlen

https://coronadaten.wordpress.com/

https://elpais.com/sociedad/2020-03-25/los-test-rapidos-de-coronavirus-comprados-en-china-no-funcionan.html

https://swprs.org/rki-relativiert-corona-todesfaelle/

Anonymous ID: 9d90a6 May 24, 2020, 5:52 p.m. No.9304095   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4145 >>4170 >>4344 >>4432

Epidemiologists, Virologists, Medical statiticans and doctors against lockdown measures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UO3Wd5urg0

https://novuscomms.com/2020/03/31/a-view-from-the-hvivo-open-orphan-orph-laboratory-professor-john-oxford/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtzHH8DhgZM

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-to-understand-and-report-figures-for-covid-19-deaths-

https://www.nzz.ch/wissenschaft/coronavirus-der-stammbaum-verraet-woher-es-kommt-ld.1548271

https://www.rubikon.news/artikel/der-corona-totalitarismus

https://www.risknet.de/themen/risknews/covid-19-und-der-blindflug/

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/eci.13222

https://swprs.org/open-letter-from-professor-sucharit-bhakdi-to-german-chancellor-dr-angela-merkel/

https://web.archive.org/web/20200330082928/https://www.sueddeutsche.de/panorama/coronavirus-news-deutschland-wolfsburg-laschet-1.4828033

https://www.infobae.com/coronavirus/2020/03/28/para-un-prestigioso-cientifico-argentino-el-coronavirus-no-merece-que-el-planeta-este-en-un-estado-de-parate-total/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6MZy-2fcBw

https://swprs.org/open-letter-from-professor-sucharit-bhakdi-to-german-chancellor-dr-angela-merkel/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-uub0urNfw

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/The-evidence-on-Covid-19-is-not-as-clear-as-we-think

https://www.cybermednews.eu/index.php/it/health/70871-interview-to-the-virologist-giulio-tarro-the-death-rate-of-covid-19-is-less-than-1-as-confirmed-by-the-national-institute-of-allergy-and-infectious-diseases

https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/zdf-morgenmagazin/julian-nida-ruemelin-zur-corona-krise-100.html

https://www.clarin.com/buena-vida/coronavirus-panico-injustificado-dice-virologo-argentino-francia_0_yVcmJ4RM.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wfb-B0BWmo

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid#status-of-covid-19

https://www.radioeins.de/programm/sendungen/die_profis/archivierte_sendungen/beitraege/corona-virus-kein-killervirus.html

https://www.tagblatt.ch/leben/ostschweizer-infektiologe-pietro-vernazza-die-zahlen-zu-den-jungen-corona-virus-erkrankten-sind-irrefuehrend-ld.1206440

https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-lockdown-lunacy-1001322696

https://www.deadlymedicines.dk/corona-an-epidemic-of-mass-panic/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920300972

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/opinion/coronavirus-pandemic-social-distancing.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBB9bA-gXL4

https://www.canberra.edu.au/uncover/news-archive/2020/april/covid-19-the-need-to-fill-the-spatio-temporal-data-vacuum

Anonymous ID: 9d90a6 May 24, 2020, 5:52 p.m. No.9304101   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4145 >>4170 >>4344 >>4432

Economic impact of lockdown

**3% unemployment = 5.4 million dead

http://www.econ.ucla.edu/tvwachter/covid19/LT_effects_STC_memo_vonWachter.pdf

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-04-01/virus-outbreak-creates-new-challenges-for-addiction-recover

https://www.usnews.com/news/economy/articles/2020-03-23/fed-official-unemployment-could-hit-30-as-coronavirus-slams-economy

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/coronavirus-job-losses-could-total-47-million-unemployment-rate-of-32percent-fed-says.html

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/making-sense/how-the-coronavirus-economic-toll-could-also-affect-public-health

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5451921/

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1331677X.2018.1484788

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1732539/

 

>Fake News, Fake Hospital overload

https://nypost.com/2020/04/01/cbs-admits-to-using-footage-from-italy-in-report-about-nyc/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pIMD1enwd4

https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/tessin-verlegt-erste-corona-patienten-in-deutschschweizer-spitaeler-ld.1549417

https://www.divi.de/register/intensivregister

https://www.heise.de/tp/features/Das-ist-keine-Krise-sondern-eine-Katastrophe-4694104.html

https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/tessin-verlegt-erste-corona-patienten-in-deutschschweizer-spitaeler-ld.1549417

https://www.intensivregister.de/#/intensivregister

https://portale.fnomceo.it/elenco-dei-medici-caduti-nel-corso-dellepidemia-di-covid-19/

https://web.archive.org/web/20200328152430/https://portale.fnomceo.it/elenco-dei-medici-caduti-nel-corso-dellepidemia-di-covid-19/

https://archive.is/20200329015127/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/chloe-middleton-death-21-year-old-not-recorded-nhs-covid-19-related

https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/coronakrise-deutsche-krankenhausgesellschaft-wir-sind-besser-vorbereitet-als-italien/25651268.html

https://www.ebm-netzwerk.de/en/publications/covid-19

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/feb/20/britons-urged-to-get-flu-vaccine-as-critical-cases-rise-above-2000

https://www.aargauerzeitung.ch/aargau/kanton-aargau/erst-3-von-100-aargauer-betten-der-intensivstationen-sind-belegt-so-ruesten-sich-die-spitaeler-auf-die-epidemie-137332716

https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/punkto-intensivbetten-sind-wir-im-tessin-besser-ausgeruestet-als-der-rest-der-schweiz-ld.1547728

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M4kbPDHGR0&feature=youtu.be&t=210

https://insideparadeplatz.ch/2020/03/16/notfall-stationen-bereits-seit-tagen-am-anschlag/

https://sports.yahoo.com/spanish-football-coach-francisco-garcia-163153573.html

 

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===>Lung Intubation causing lung damage, no masks are used for ventilation

https://www.doccheck.com/de/detail/articles/26271-covid-19-beatmung-und-dann

 

===>Pollution causing higher cases of lung infections

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/dec/09/steep-rise-lung-related-illness-hospitals-nhs

https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1476-069X-2-15

https://www.heise.de/tp/features/Feinstaubpartikel-als-Viren-Vehikel-4687454.html

Anonymous ID: 9d90a6 May 24, 2020, 5:52 p.m. No.9304104   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4145 >>4170 >>4344 >>4432

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-----------Protips on arguing.-------------

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Do not compare it to the flu. You will be written off.

You are not here to "win" you are here to change minds so we can help people from economic and literal suicide.

The Best approach is to find middle ground and argue for the Swedish, Japanese, Korean models where there is no lockdown but they protect the old, weak. This prevents the estimated 30% unemployment and 35m+ small businesses from being destroyed.

 

Some people will troll, waste your time, or be repeating the argument of a troll. See if they fall into one of these categories:

 

-Destroy - I am putting this first to warn you. People may want to attack you personally, whether in person or trying to make you lose your job. Hide all of your info. If you didnt and they try to, lawyer the fuck up.

 

-Deflect - Shifting topic to other issues that are not related (Shift topic back to original discussion, tell them that theyre off topic comment is correct if you have to)

 

-Delay - shifting topic to uncertainity, that we dont have enough info (ask why we are shutting down, economic damage if we dont have the info yet?)

 

-Deny - Saying that your solution or ideas are wrong or wont work (show them sources. If they keep arguing, keep asking them to show them sources and if sources will change their mind. If they say no, give up, they are a lost cause)

 

-Discount - discrediting you because you are not a doctor, etc "All the doctors say to lockdown and YOURE not a doctor" (show them the other doctors that agree with you, highlight that appeal to authority is not valid)

 

-Deception - Outright lying, or reciting false information "This is worse than the spanish flu!" (call them out on it immedietly, but be polite. Remember, you are not here to win. If the lie is a part of a large statement, just quickly say it is wrong then address the rest)

 

-Divide - Changing the topic to division based on religion, politics, gender, etc. "This is capitalisms fault!" (Tell them to focus on the issue at hand and refocus on commond ground)

 

-Dulcify - agreeing with only a part of your statement but then disagreeing with your conclusion (Ask them how the conclusion does not follow and what they need to be shown to agree)

 

-Discredit - Claiming you have bad intentions, dont care "you want the old people to die!" (highlight the skorean, japanese, swedish models. Talk about protecting the weak and old so the young and healthy can go back to work and that you are advocating for helping more people).

 

-Deal - They will agree with your statement. Tell them you are happy because of this and that they should do the same. Link them the sources here.