hi Q !
i use to say 'if i can't convince _, how can i convince others?'
After some time (patience/work), _ became aware and convinced.
Hopefully the same happens for you and your Moms (hi AnonMom).
Godspeed to you both.
>>_
If you can prove it, how can you look crazy?
If you can't prove it, avoid topic until you can prove it.
If you are always guessing, predicting, assuming, wrong multiple times, etc, how can ppl believe you?
shills whine
avoid them or pick up their whine[Y] habits