>Expect shill attacks when the time frame is re-visited as this already seems wide-open to speculations as we have little to go on at the moment.
Well, we have a 1)nutter shill, and 2) one of those ignoramus anons, too stupid to understand, calling the the dig garbage, and 3) Kind-and-friendlyAnon, offering us a “safe place” from our travails with shills here. Here, where anons post along with Q when Qresearch is down. A safe space is calling.
Well, some more thoughts, with new info, about the embankment pics. New theory- The Lisa/M6 pic has been speculated to be HUMINT photographer from the pedestrian bridge. This is important. If the situation were unfolding quickly and the targets had quickly exited a vehicle in the pull-over/parking lane, then it seems it would be problematic to get an operator on the footbridge to get a vantage. Not only that, the Lisa/MI6 pic seems to necessarily occur before the other oics which already show people crossing the street. Am thinking operator was waiting from a vantage point on the bridge for the Lisa person(and dinner companions to leave. Lisa (and 1 companion) leave the restaurant with 4 others and the entire group crosses the street. Lisa and (1companion) turn left and continue down Victoria Embankment. The other 4 persons, after crossing Victoria Embankment Road, turn up Northumberland and appear to turn left onto Whitehall(some have thought to go into the Corinthia Hotel), where there happens to be a Free Parking area. See caps. We have no proof at this time that the group of 4 entered the Corinthia. It appears pay($) parking garages are a bit distant for the group to have walked to, but the free parking is right there where the group of 4 is last seen.
Yes, Dickwad anon with 3 posts here, none if them contributing anything. And, if you are not just a lazy fuck, you are too new and lazy to know about Winter Wonderland, as well as the other London pics and why we are looking at them again. Have seen your type many times, criticizing a dig only to have egg on their face when real anons develop the dig. Why don’t you know what WW is all about? If you weren’t some stranger here. Anyone who was here for the last 3 breads knows what’s going on with it. You are a dunce pronouncing your lack of understanding.
Anon, just stumbled upon something. Was looking at Alamy Stock photos site.
Example-
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-houses-of-parliament-big-ben-at-night-time-136768742.html?p=302000&srch=foo%3dbar%26st%3d0%26sortby%3d2%26qt%3dtattershall%26qt_raw%3dtattershall%26qn%3d%26lic%3d3%26edrf%3d0%26mr%3d0%26pr%3d0%26aoa%3d1%26creative%3d%26videos%3d%26nu%3d%26ccc%3d%26bespoke%3d%26apalib%3d%26ag%3d0%26hc%3d0%26et%3d0x000000000000000000000%26vp%3d0%26loc%3d0%26ot%3d0%26imgt%3d0%26dtfr%3d%26dtto%3d%26size%3d0xFF%26blackwhite%3d%26cutout%3d%26archive%3d1%26name%3d%26groupid%3d%26pseudoid%3d%26userid%3d%26id%3d%26a%3d%26xstx%3d0%26cbstore%3d0%26resultview%3dsortbyPopular%26lightbox%3d%26gname%3d%26gtype%3d%26apalic%3d%26tbar%3d1%26pc%3d%26simid%3d%26cap%3d1%26customgeoip%3d%26vd%3d0%26cid%3d%26pe%3d%26so%3d%26lb%3d%26pl%3d0%26plno%3d%26fi%3d0%26langcode%3den%26upl%3d0%26cufr%3d%26cuto%3d%26howler%3d%26cvrem%3d0%26cvtype%3d0%26cvloc%3d0%26cl%3d0%26upfr%3d%26upto%3d%26primcat%3d%26seccat%3d%26cvcategory%3d*%26restriction%3d%26random%3d%26ispremium%3d1%26flip%3d0%26contributorqt%3d%26plgalleryno%3d%26plpublic%3d0%26viewaspublic%3d0%26isplcurate%3d0%26imageurl%3d%26saveQry%3d%26editorial%3d1%26t%3d0%26edoptin%3d%26filters%3d0
Found these pics of TATTS with blue accent lighting around the deck. Photos are from Feb. 2014.
When did they start that? This mood lighting was not in Lisa/MI6 EMBANKMENT pic. Is this useful to date the Q pic earlier than Feb. 2014?
Well, unfortunately, I found a pic on the same site from 2005 with same blue lighting. It is in the “date posted” field. Well then, this might be something to dig further on- to see if such lighting is used until closing. You had mentioned you had the impression that the ship seemed closed for business in the Lisa/MI6 photo. Even if this can’t narrow the date, it may narrow the time of the evening to after the TATTS was closed.
(Pic was attributed to 2005) But errors can occur.
Some EMBANKMENT MUSIC.
Waterloo Sunset. Waterloo is just across the river.
https://youtu.be/N_MqfF0WBsU
There are anons in General Research who appear quite knowledgeable about Templars and such. Sometimes it helps ask during day shift and again during nightshift. I find nightshift is a little slower which is good because it allows for anons to actually discuss something. You might list those 7 factors. But don’t you need some sort of biography of his achievements and such? Not enough info in your request for help, yet.
>Even if those pedestrians had stayed til closing and wanted to pop over to the Corinthia because their hotel bars are open til midnight. How late does the TATTS actually stay open? Say they were there on a night that closes early
Here is a (current) hours of operation for TATTS I found.
Also, must confess I could not understand/did not fathom that there are regular low and high tides that cause the gangplanks to change. High tide= ascend the gangplanks to board. Low ride = you descend the gangplank to board. Which regular tide times for the Thames, corresponds with the Lisa/MI6 pic at a time after midnight when the high tide has begun to go down. See clock-graphic which shows the rough times for High tides as roughly occurring 11:30-12:20(AM and PM), and Low tides as roughly occurring 5:30-6:20(AM and PM).
In the Q pic, we are clearly still at high tide, with the gangplanks descending from the TATTS toward shore. Just found that interesting, and it doesn’t hurt to know either.
Correction: I SAID: “corresponds with the Lisa/MI6 pic at a time after midnight when the high tide has begun to go down.”
I should have said AROUND midnight-ish.
Wow an exact [15] minute shill delta.
>Any brit anons understand German?
Nein, I mean “no”. Just like this song, whose words I don’t verstehen, I mesn, “understand”.
We can try an ALMANAC for London during 2013, looking of course at high/low tides. Hadn’t got far when I posted. Was just seeing what you thought of the idea. But the GENERAL tide times is as I said, depending on time of year. But even with the little we know about the Lisa/MI6 pic, from what we do know about the tides, even if the sun had set early that day before 6pm, I could testify in court that the pic was not taken around 6pm, because I know that the LOW tides occur around 6pm and 6am, and that HIGH tides occur around noonish and around midnight on the Thanes. I will look into searching for an Almanac but, other anons, feel free to add your search engine to the effort. Cheers. 2 related pics showing a “high” tide versus a “low” tide by looking at the river embankment wall, you can see the not so fancy part that is often below water versus a nicer dressed looking part of the wall that is mostly above the water.
Oh well, you can eliminate 2012 I guess.
Got sunrise/sunset times for London 2013.
Will still be nice package of all 3 series of pics, with super video to back presentation. Anons are gonna know WHY the pics are from a time AND PLACE on the map.
Here are some tide times. Perhaps I was too simplistic in my first exposure to the London tides. But- that is going to help us narrow THE DATE! Because, though I was wrong about the regularity, we are going to be able to eliminate some late evening LOW tides because they won’t match the scenario of a darkened, lights out, TATTS. Probly need 2 posts for the full chart for DECEMBER 2013.
Part 2 of Tide chart
>Tippy top!
>Narrowing the timeframe this way is as organic as it can get. Can this be further corroborated on a seasonal chart? Testing the potential for DEC 2013?
Well it’s kind of like crossword puzzles- you eliminate what can’t possibly go there first, fill in some essy ones and it starts to come together. This is my first draft at this. The low tides- eliminated. The pretty close ones are almost as easy. The “Fence-sitters” is what I call the ones that are equidistant or somewhat equidistant from the time the TATTS bar closes to to a high tide or a low tide. In such an equidistant data point, you would expect to see the TATTS’ gangplanks in a near level positions. (See related possible matches for a “high” gangplank scenario. The rest of the month is not good or falls within a holiday week in which I can’t picture DOJ/FBI/MI6/etc working away from their families and children. Cheers.
>Any pattern re timestamps and deltas?
The WW set has a 2-year delta coming up on June, 11. See post 1456. Re-read. In the post, Q tells anons the POTUS tweet is provided as a time “guide” versus “event occurs in Dec” provides time “frame”. What is the differece? And check POTUS’ tweet in 1456- June 5. Time guide. Timeframe.
Btw I used a CURRENT operating hours for the TATTS. Anyone find a different one for 2013? Did not explain entirely. I was comparing closure times, (The ones I used are current closing times.) after which one might expect to see the TATTS darkened yet during a high tide.
>Any pattern re timestamps and deltas?
Prolly something to keep on back burner for now.
You were talking about deltas in Q drops, right? There are POTUS tweets with time stamps, retweet deltas, Wish I was better at deltas but will review all London pics/ series, looking for different deltas in each. Although Q practically puts our face in it on WW as to December, that’s fine, sometimes anons need a kick. But, just today I had a thought. Does London(City)put up any holiday street decorations on lamp posts? Or would that be raycis? If before that like late Fall, are there street or business decorations that people put up? Wear on their persons? (ie holiday sweaters, Santa hats etc?)But even regarding shops in Piccadilly, can see nothing that might be pre-holidays or just after. So…Winter 2013/2014 January to March for Piccadilly? I know in the US they are putting up holiday merchandise and theming the day after Halloween. So could complete lack of such things indicate s post-Christmas environment(in Piccadilly pics)?
Thought, for sake of being thorough, I would finish rest of Dec. tide chart analysis, as there were 2 more dates that are possible as tide matches and for agency-types to be able to jet over to London right after the Christmas holiday. As said before, in my experience with government, they get used to their holidays. Not likely, a face-to-face during Christmas week. But do consider FB_, D_J might do a weekend 48-hour turnaround trip either before Christmas week with fam, or week after.
Fuckin filter now! Why wait?! Don’t need your cunt bitching.
A 2-poster complaining that he doesn’t know what the fuck anons are talking about. Gtfo. So, 2-poster, this was your bread then?
Anon, found this in the comment section of the referenced article:
https://www.laprogressive.com/general-strike-call/
“I am reminded of how Ernst Thälmann, chief of the German Communist Party (KPD) in the last years of the Weimar Republic regarded fascists and Nazis as capitalist off shoots. Social democrats were also capitalists, hence social democracy, fascism and Nazism were simply different FINGERS OF THE SAME HAND.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Th%C3%A4lmann
“A committed Stalinist, Thälmann played a major role in the political instability of the Weimar Republic in its final years, when the KPD explicitly sought the overthrow of the liberal democracy of the republic. Under his leadership the KPD became intimately associated with the government of the Soviet Union and the policies of Joseph Stalin, and from 1928 the party was largely controlled and funded by Stalin's government. The KPD under Thälmann's leadership regarded the Social Democratic Party (SPD) as its main adversary and the party adopted the position that the social democrats were "social fascists."
Thälmann was also leader of the paramilitary Roter Frontkämpferbund, which was banned as extremist by the governing social democrats in 1929, and in 1932 he established Antifaschistische Aktion or Antifa…”
You’re a chimp. Chimping with your chimp hands in the air. No banana for you, chimp. And you pressed the button too. No sheep here for you. We’re gonna dig that dig til it’s finished , got it? You habe no power here. Cuz we’re no sheep like you’re used to. Now go wank off or pick bugs off yourself, chimp.
>Prolly something to keep on back burner for now.
Well, that may be true. While you put the finishing touches on your vids, I’ve nothing better to do than keep pressing around the edges. It seems to be making some folks upset that people are digging on these London pics. And that warms the heart.
Found a great LIVE LONDON TIDE CAM to play with! It looks across the Thames from LONDON Eye towards the TATTERSHALL CASTLE in Q’s LisaMI6.png pic! I have in mind comparing the LIVE view of the THAMES EMBANKMENT and comparing it with that day’s TIDE CHART to get a general idea of how high the water appears at different tides.
Am leaving links.
https://www.tidetimes.org.uk/london-bridge-tower-pier-tide-times
https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/england/london/river-thames-central.html
Good fun.
Cheers, fren.
Ahoy, Boatfag! Nice to see you, fren.
Thx
Boatfag, u lurkin?
Well don tell me noon of you brought a can?
Fraid soo mate.
Aye. A couple.
Aye, while you’re here, can any of you fags help a fag get a way-back to a 2013 operating hours for the TATTERSHALL CASTLE(seen in the LisaMi6 pic.
Tryna do a dig on that pic. We think it’s 2013.
Reason for asking is her lights are out, after-hours. It’s high tide in the pic and going with the hunch it’s DECEMBER. Already checkef high/low tides to compare against her current operating hours and, if you can believe it, can narrow the pic to 9 possible days in December. BUT I NEED TO KNOW IF THEY KEPT THE SAME HOURS IN 2013! Help!!!
>If, for now, we can not confirm TATT's hours, how narrow is the timeframe based on tides?
Let me answer you on separate issues.
1) We can try what anons call the Wayback-machine. (Not saying u didn’t know about it). This is beyond this anon’s ability byw. I am tenacious but, alas, I am a simple phonefag with my limitations. But then again, I am teachable. Just no exposure to techanons. So anyway, we haven’t tried yet to search the restaurant’s webpage for 2013, using the Wayback machine. This would be optimal. Without it, all assertions should be considered guessed, which is unacceptable.
If you are talking methodology then it is as follows:
On the Thames river, there are 4 times per day consisting of 2 HIGH tides and 2 LOW tides.
Our requirements for a match to LisaMI6.png are 1) a high tide, 2) said high tide occurring at night, and 3) after business hours for the Tattershall Castle restaurant, 4) yet not so late that there are no cars and people on the Victoria Embankment.
What did I do?
1) Eliminate ANY low tides. That’s half of the list of tides.
2) Eliminate ANY daylight high tides. That cuts the list by another half.
3) Now COMPARE the remaining night time HIGH TIDED to the BUSINESS HOURS of the TATTS, eliminating those which occurred MUCH too soon before the TATTS would be closed, or MUCH longer after the TATTS would be closed.
(Here is the important complexity, but in this case, a complexity not to be feared, but which helps to narrow the field of choices even further: the somewhat variable SCHEDULE; M-TH 11a to 11p; F, S 11a to 2a(next day); and SUN 11a to 1130p.
The tidal “highs” and “lows” are actually more like periods of time to the naked eye and so a high tide may seem unchanged as approaches the peak, lingers, and begins its ebb. As such, I allowed for up to, (in one case) 2hrs:4mins, to be conservative.
Here is the list of DELTAS TO CLOSE OF BUSINESs:
1h38m; 1h28m; 2h49m; 1h38m; 31m; 2h31m; 1h38m; 04m; and 33m(this I would eliminate as unlikely as it’s New Year’s Eve.)
I also eliminated Christmas Eve and Christmas Day as unlikely and acceptable dates for high level D_J or F_I agents to be out of the US on business, away from their families. For a total of EIGHT POSSIBLE DAYS! to maybe connect with someone’s travel to London. This can be so damn fun!
> There appears to be an individual lingering at the entrance to the TATT's gangplanks and nearby sidewalk/curb
areas.
To the left of the tree?
(My own obs as well: See a person leaning in to talk to the car with brake lights on.(Could be someone who’s just been dropped off? Or being propositioned? Paying an Uber driver? The conversation is long. 2 pictures.
Now, in the added screencap from a vid. The gangplank is level because the water level is neither high nor low. The tide may be going in or out at such point.
Are you able to do a 12-hour time-lapse?(I know I can’t but it doesn’t hurt to ask.) Did you see the post I sent you with a link to a LIVE CAM looking across from LONDON EYE to the TATTSon the opposite bank? See above. If you can, great! I would recommend a start at dawn due to extreme shadows toward sunset. We want to get a good view of the embankment wall. (See sample).
Just asking. If you can’t, that makes two of us. I might at that point ask Boatfag to see if he can do it or enlist a fren from GRB.
It’s a great view, just not so good definition. That’s why Recommend morning sun to light up the embankment. If I missed anything u asked please ask again. Been a full day. Haven’t viewed your vids. Tho I think I saw the time lapse one this a.m. Good hunting.
Two thoughts caused by this vid. The thing about being cautious of predictions. I had yet not found a site with actual “measured” tides. The one found was one for sport fishermen, with tide “predictions” as mentioned in the video. They warn that predictions are only that. So, if you find a “historic” measured tides without trying please let me know. Can discuss that later thi.
The other thing, I wish I had kniwn it would be relevant when I scanned over it, was something about “high”tides lasting longer. One would assume because the steady effluence of water is being met by a high wall of influx water. But on the contrary, the effluence on reaching its greatest ebb causes the least resistance to the influx of water from the coast. Hope I got that right. But since it means high tides seem to tarry longer, I mention it. Getting an education here.
Live Cam:
https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/england/london/river-thames-central.html
Daily London tide times:
https://www.tidetimes.org.uk/london-bridge-tower-pier-tide-times
Pratt, where have you been? I’ve been fighting shills all day. ;-)
Forgot to include: If you think Q’s traffic cam appears level, like the screencap you provided, I don’t think they are similar. I see no difference with LisaMi6. They are just different cam angles imo. Try continuing the vertical imaginary lines lines from the lamp posts and you still have a rising gangplank. I see no prob with the Q traffic cam angle. La prochaine.
I intend consulting the Admiralty Hydrographic Office for the Tide Chart(s). Think you just want just 2013, right? I hope. I never went past a paywall yet, but think this is a worthy exception. Will wait til Monday. The Admiralty seems reliable. ;-)
>TY Anon.
If possible, include NOV-DEC 2013 and JAN 2013. And by way of providing contrast, again if possible, include same timeframe for 2012 and 2014.
FG&C, anon.
At 33 quid + vat(per year),am willing to do 2013 & 2014. (66 quid+) But as you have been so good to point out, the TATTS had her gangplanks raised on 1JAN15, a pic from Hungerford recreating the LisaMI6 pic is, thereafter, impossible. So, if after phone consult with Admiralty, and if they can do a “print in demand” POD, then I will do it. I plan to check those links you provided. But, am drawn, due to the high provenance value, to being able to vouch for my data as HM Office of the.Admiralty, Hydrography office.
Thanks for the links, fren. Good luck on your vids.
P.S. if you have some time, please consider doing a timelapse of the TATTS from that LIVE cam. It may only require a 6 hour recording if you can start before a LOW tide then record to just after a HIGH. This gives us greater familiarity with the appearance of the Embankment wall- and being thus armed, we are better able to make an approximation as to the blurry LisaMI6 pic. Would be of great value. I would do it myself if I could. Know you are busy, but if IRL you are popping out for a day out, would be perfect to screen record that site in “time lapse” mode. Anyone? 6 hours would be 1/4 of a day. Good enuf.
https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/england/london/river-thames-central.html
Again? That ex soldier just vandalized it back in May.