With the caliphate in Seattle established, armed militia patrolling its borders, continued looting funding the operation, when does the right to civil defense emerge? Is the de facto occupation a de jure occupation now? Where is the legal line? They are armed, robbing the local community to fund their occupation, capturing municipal buildings one at a time and occupying them. They are extorting local businesses to feed and supply them selves. They are exercising jurisdictional control without elections to provide them the authority to do so.