Anonymous ID: df692d July 13, 2020, 5:22 p.m. No.9952682   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2693 >>2697 >>2709 >>2734

Free speech may get a win today???

Looks like Patreon is about to lose here, and lose badly.

Owen Benjamin -vs-Patreon

 

The Patreon Lawsuit Involving Owen Benjamin Explained by a Lawyer

Published 1 hour ago on July 13, 2020

By Mike Cernovich

https://www.cernovich.com/patreon-lawsuit-owen-benjamin/

 

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1282716063243747328

 

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Cernovich

@Cernovich

 

Reporting live from a major legal action involving Patreon and several former patrons of Owen Benjamin.(and VOX DAY)

 

Several former patrons of Benjamin filed arbitration actions against Patreon after Benjamin was banned.

 

Patreon then sued those former backers in California state court.

9:38 AM · Jul 13, 2020

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich

·

6h

The judge is seeking further briefing on a procedural legal issue and will take the matter under submission.

 

The tentative ruling went against Patreon, but the Court is going to ask for further briefing.

 

We will have to wait a couple of weeks for a formal judgment!

 

Suspense

Anonymous ID: df692d July 13, 2020, 5:23 p.m. No.9952693   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2709

>>9952682

Cernovich

@Cernovich

·

6h

Marc Randazza argues:

 

  • Patreon set up the Terms of Service to mandate arbitration.

 

  • Patreon lost rulings in arbitration.

 

  • Now Patreon wants a Court order to stop the arbitrations.

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich

·

6h

The judge in Patreon case is fantastic, he's well prepared and really did his homework. Impressed with him for sure.

 

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich

·

6h

Now

@marcorandazza

is up in the Patreon vs. Owen Benjamin's backers lawsuit.

 

The Court's tentative ruling went against Patreon, but oral argument may have persuaded the judge to modify his order.

 

High legal drama happening in San Francisco Superior Court!

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich

·

6h

Patreon "changed the rules of the game in the middle of the game," the judge tells Patreon's lawyer.

 

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich

·

6h

"We understand that the old agreement allowed for gamesmanship," Patreon's lawyer said, which is why Patreon changed the Terms of Service.

 

Judge is pushing back re: how Patreon unilaterally changed the TOS.

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich

·

6h

"The arbitration claims will be substantial," Patreon's lawyer says in claiming that Patreon will suffer irreparable harm.

 

The judge cites the "gig economy" lawsuit Door Dash lost in response to Patreon's lawyer's argument.

 

DoorDash Ordered to Pay $9.5M to Arbitrate 5,000 Labor Disputes

https://www.courthousenews.com/doordash-ordered-to-pay-12m-to-arbitrate-5000-labor-disputes/

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich

·

6h

The judge in Patreon case is very straight-laced guy, understands the law.

 

He is wondering why so many people are watching the hearing.

 

Culture clash for sure.

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich

·

6h

Patreon bans Owen Benjamin.

 

72 of Benjamin's backers tell Patreon they will move for arbitration.

 

Patreon amended its TOS to bar those claims.

 

Backers move for arbitration.

 

Patreon loses procedural rules in arbitration.

 

Lawsuit against those backers is filed.

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich

·

7h

Patreon's lawyers is citing cases that he didn't disclose to opposing counsel

@marcorandazza

, which is not standard practice.

 

Judge seems like he may seek further briefing on a procedural issue.

 

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich

·

7h

You can follow the Patreon lawsuit live here:

https://sfsuperiorcourt-org.zoom.us/j/5769311740?pwd=Qnp6Mys2ckhCREVvVkdEUnJSUVZqUT09#success

 

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich

·

7h

The logic being applied in the Patreon can could be used against PayPal when PayPal bans accounts.

 

This Patreon lawsuit outcome has major implication.

 

A new legal front just opened up.

https://www.cernovich.com/patreon-mandatory-arbitration/

Patreon Faces New Legal Peril Under California LawPublished 5 months ago on February 11, 2020

Patreon has lost several high profile creators including Sam Harris, Dave Rubin, and Jordan Peterson due to Patreon’s decision to begin censoring creators for ideological reasons.

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich

·

7h

Under the Court's preliminary ruling,

 

ANY LARGE CREATOR banned by Patreon

 

can have his or her backers move for arbitration.

 

Patreon will have to pay millions of dollars in legal fees upfront.

 

This is a HUGE workaround for Big Tech censorship.

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich

·

7h

Unless the judge in Patreon reverses himself, then Patreon's loss in court today will be devastating.

 

They will be on the hook for hundreds of arbitration fees.

 

But anything can happen in any given moment.

 

Will the judge overrule himself?

 

We will soon find out!

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich

·

7h

The judge is hammering Patreon's lawyer, and is not impressed with his arguments.

 

Looks like Patreon is about to lose here, and lose badly.

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich

·

7h

Court, "The tentative ruling is to DENY the motion for injunctive relief."

 

Patreon has presumably lost, unless they are able to persuaded the judge at this hearing to reverse himself.

 

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich

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Anonymous ID: df692d July 13, 2020, 5:23 p.m. No.9952697   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2709

>>9952682

7h

After Patreon sued Owen Benjmain's former backers, the so-called "bears" retained prominent lawyer

@marcorandazza

to represent them against Patreon.

 

I am here live reporting on this hearing.

 

More details to come.

 

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich

·

7h

Several people who are not lawyers claim that Patreon will prevail in its motion against Owen Benjamin's backers.

 

In fact the law is pretty clear.

 

Patreon should lose its lawsuit and be sent back to arbitration.

 

I'll report live once the Court has issued its ruling.

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich

·

7h

Under California law, Patreon is obligated to pay in advance all of the arbitration fees required in the case involving Owen Benjamin's former backers.

 

Millions of dollars.

 

Seeking to avoid these fees, Patreon moved for an injunction in to shut down the arbitrations.

 

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich

·

7h

Replying to

@Cernovich

Owen Benjamin's backers filed arbitration actions under a clever workout unique to California law.

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich

·

1h

Tech companies face almost total protection from lawsuits due to a law created by Congress to encourage freedom of speech on the web. Because of this, companies have gotten sloppy with the Terms of Service.

Anonymous ID: df692d July 13, 2020, 5:25 p.m. No.9952709   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2745

Free speech may get a win today???

 

Looks like Patreon is about to lose here, and lose badly.

 

Owen Benjamin -vs- Patreon

 

The Patreon Lawsuit Involving Owen Benjamin Explained by a Lawyer

 

Published 1 hour ago on July 13, 2020

By Mike Cernovich

 

https://www.cernovich.com/patreon-lawsuit-owen-benjamin/

 

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1282716063243747328

 

>>9952682

>>9952693

>>9952697

Anonymous ID: df692d July 13, 2020, 5:28 p.m. No.9952738   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2809 >>2984 >>3201 >>3368

Andy Ngô

@MrAndyNgo

 

Over the weekend, masked antifa in Portland opened a black man’s car door during a violent protest. Watch how he responded to them:

 

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1282752376898834433

Anonymous ID: df692d July 13, 2020, 5:33 p.m. No.9952791   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3204

Asians understand what the fuck is up'

Polls are WRONG

 

Scott Adams

@ScottAdamsSays

· 5h

 

Ask your Asian-American friends, VERY PRIVATELY, what they think is going on here. Winking face

 

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1282757450647535616

 

pearsonified

@pearsonified

 

I consider myself fairly perceptive but had to dig a bit to get to the point, so I'll save you some time:

 

Asian-Americans do not want to say (publicly) they plan to support Trump out of fear of repercussions and negative blowback from unhinged Leftist nutjobs and Cancel Culture.

 

https://twitter.com/pearsonified/status/1282758915575492610

Anonymous ID: df692d July 13, 2020, 5:34 p.m. No.9952806   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2897

Julie Borowski

@JulieBorowski

 

I was not expecting Donald Trump to be the only president that hasn't started a war in decades.

 

7:09 AM · Jul 13, 2020

https://twitter.com/JulieBorowski/status/1282678658281484289

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Anonymous ID: df692d July 13, 2020, 5:37 p.m. No.9952839   🗄️.is 🔗kun

https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/status/1282770171434881025

Jenna Ellis

@JennaEllisEsq

 

People who actually care about the interests of justice—not political attacks—understand this was an excellent move by President Trump.

 

The President is the last full guardian of justice, per our US Constitution vested powers in him.

 

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1282753552742518786

 

The Hill

@thehill

 

President Trump: "I'm getting rave reviews for what I did for Roger Stone."

Anonymous ID: df692d July 13, 2020, 5:41 p.m. No.9952882   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2887 >>2893 >>2899 >>2923 >>3112

Andy Ngô

@MrAndyNgo

 

Isaih Martin (@I_Martin44),

 

a BLM activist at @TAMU, claimed in ultra-viral tweet that racist messages were left on his car. Video shows he placed them there himself. He is now refusing to cooperate w/police.

@TAMUPolice are not pressing charges.

https://kbtx.com/2020/07/10/texas-am-police-say-student-who-reported-racist-notes-placed-them-there-himself/ #HateHoax

 

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1282679248998797312

Anonymous ID: df692d July 13, 2020, 5:43 p.m. No.9952893   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>9952882

>>9952887

 

Matt Walsh

@MattWalshBlog

 

It has been three weeks since a roving band of white supremacist frat boys supposedly set a black woman on fire in the middle of the street while she was in her car. Lots of coverage when the claims were made but little since. No video footage. No witnesses.

 

11:14 AM · Jul 13, 2020

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1282740199097802755

Anonymous ID: df692d July 13, 2020, 5:45 p.m. No.9952910   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2932 >>2968

Cernovich

@Cernovich

How is this legal?

Quote Tweet

 

David Hookstead

@dhookstead

· 5h

I'm on the phone with the NBA store right now. Sales rep says I can't buy a FreeHongKong jersey, but I can buy a KillCops jersey if I want one.

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1:43 PM · Jul 13, 2020

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@dhookstead

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David Hookstead

@dhookstead

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5h

I'm on the phone with the NBA store right now. Sales rep says I can't buy a FreeHongKong jersey, but I can buy a KillCops jersey if I want one.

David Hookstead

@dhookstead

Here is audio of the NBA store telling me I can't buy a FreeHongKong jersey, but I can buy a KillCops jersey.'

 

Eventually, once they realized what was happening, they claimed they couldn't sell me anything because of high call volume and system error.

 

https://twitter.com/dhookstead/status/1282769612191551488

Anonymous ID: df692d July 13, 2020, 5:47 p.m. No.9952932   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2968 >>2984 >>3201 >>3368

>>9952910

full audio:

 

#NBA #China

 

SHOCKING! NBA Store Says You Can Buy A “KillCops” Jersey But Not "Free HongKong"

 

2,700 views•Premiered 3 hours ago

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRLIeIZMJ6c&feature=emb_logo

 

David Hookstead

@dhookstead

This is the full audio of the NBA store telling me I can't buy a "FreeHongKong" jersey, but I can buy a "KillCops" jersey.

 

For anyone claiming this isn't legit, I can promise you that it very much is. The NBA doesn't want people to hear this!

 

https://twitter.com/dhookstead/status/1282794539359580160

 

https://twitter.com/dhookstead/status/1282769612191551488

Anonymous ID: df692d July 13, 2020, 5:51 p.m. No.9952968   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>9952910

>>9952932

 

Saagar Enjeti

@esaagar

FWIW I just tried this myself and it's not a character limit or anything. System seems specifically designed to reject "FREEHONGKONG"

 

What a disgusting state of affairs. Try it for yourself:

 

https://store.nba.com/chicago-bulls/mens-chicago-bulls-nike-red-swingman-custom-jersey-icon-edition/t-14818456+p-8063339859630+z-9-2718636435?_ref=p-CLP:m-GRID:i-r0c1:po-1

 

https://twitter.com/esaagar/status/1282742158819287041

 

 

Clay Travis

@ClayTravis

 

The NBA bans you, the fan, from putting #freehongkong on customized league jerseys even as they allow players to wear customized jerseys.

 

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1282731020647895043

Anonymous ID: df692d July 13, 2020, 5:54 p.m. No.9953000   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3079

Adam Townsend

@adamscrabble

 

California shuts down again, again wiping out people's lives, savings, jobs.

 

Oh and this happened in early June in LA

 

https://twitter.com/adamscrabble/status/1282812142689955840

Anonymous ID: df692d July 13, 2020, 5:56 p.m. No.9953034   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Cernovich

@Cernovich·

1h

 

Prince Harry out there on some woke boy tour while his family doing pedo shit.

 

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1282816472339722242

 

Saagar Enjeti

@esaagar

 

Wow: SDNY says that Ghislane Maxwell's brother hired former members of the British military to guard her at the New Hampshire compound where she never left and they ran all her errands for her

 

https://twitter.com/esaagar/status/1282736849719631879

Anonymous ID: df692d July 13, 2020, 6 p.m. No.9953079   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3187

>>9953000

 

Cernovich

@Cernovich·

1h

 

If you did social distancing, wore the mask,

 

- F*CK YOU is what Newsom says

 

People protested in massive incubation gatherings, even rioted.

 

And now YOU suffer.

 

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1282819465772625923

 

COVID-19

·

5 hours ago

 

Governor Gavin Newsom orders all California counties to shut down indoor restaurants, bars and movie theaters

On Monday, the California governor announced that all counties must shut down a number of indoor operations

as COVID-19 cases continue to spike statewide.

The state began reopening certain businesses and venues in May.

 

https://twitter.com/i/events/1282755941155262464

 

https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1282753943244701696

 

California Coronavirus Update: Governor Gavin Newsom Orders Indoor Service At All Restaurants, Bars, Movie Theaters In State To Close Again; No End Date Given

 

By Tom Tapp

Deputy Managing Editor

July 13, 2020 12:07pm

https://deadline.com/2020/07/california-gavin-newsom-closes-restaurants-indoor-operations-in-state-1202984427/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Anonymous ID: df692d July 13, 2020, 6:05 p.m. No.9953123   🗄️.is 🔗kun

OTHERWORLDY???

That is a weird way to describe someone, but that is how the GLEE cast did about Naya Rivera???

 

https://deadline.com/2020/07/naya-rivera-hollywood-reaction-mourns-glee-cast-1202984594/

 

Hollywood Mourns Naya Rivera: ‘Glee’ Co-Stars Chris Colfer, Jane Lynch And More Pay Tribute To Actress: “Her Beauty And Talent Were Otherworldly”

By Greg Evans, Dino-Ray Ramos

 

July 13, 2020 3:09pm

 

 

Naya Rivera’s Body Found After 5-Day Search Of Lake; ‘Glee’ Actress Was 33

July 13, 2020 2:06pm

https://deadline.com/2020/07/naya-rivera-dead-glee-actress-body-found-lake-piru-33-1202981276/

Anonymous ID: df692d July 13, 2020, 6:11 p.m. No.9953184   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3266

>>9953069 <<<<< ummmm NO

>>9953029

 

ummmm NO

the white rabbits are the ones doing the trafficking and the harvesting and the cloning and the pedo shit

follow the white rabbits

the rabbits are the ones duplicationg this shit over and over and over

and they are the real white racists

 

you are not following the kids you are following the scum rabbits>>9953029