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Marc Randazza argues:
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The judge in Patreon case is fantastic, he's well prepared and really did his homework. Impressed with him for sure.
Cernovich
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Now
@marcorandazza
is up in the Patreon vs. Owen Benjamin's backers lawsuit.
The Court's tentative ruling went against Patreon, but oral argument may have persuaded the judge to modify his order.
High legal drama happening in San Francisco Superior Court!
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Patreon "changed the rules of the game in the middle of the game," the judge tells Patreon's lawyer.
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"We understand that the old agreement allowed for gamesmanship," Patreon's lawyer said, which is why Patreon changed the Terms of Service.
Judge is pushing back re: how Patreon unilaterally changed the TOS.
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"The arbitration claims will be substantial," Patreon's lawyer says in claiming that Patreon will suffer irreparable harm.
The judge cites the "gig economy" lawsuit Door Dash lost in response to Patreon's lawyer's argument.
DoorDash Ordered to Pay $9.5M to Arbitrate 5,000 Labor Disputes
https://www.courthousenews.com/doordash-ordered-to-pay-12m-to-arbitrate-5000-labor-disputes/
Cernovich
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The judge in Patreon case is very straight-laced guy, understands the law.
He is wondering why so many people are watching the hearing.
Culture clash for sure.
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Patreon bans Owen Benjamin.
72 of Benjamin's backers tell Patreon they will move for arbitration.
Patreon amended its TOS to bar those claims.
Backers move for arbitration.
Patreon loses procedural rules in arbitration.
Lawsuit against those backers is filed.
Cernovich
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Patreon's lawyers is citing cases that he didn't disclose to opposing counsel
@marcorandazza
, which is not standard practice.
Judge seems like he may seek further briefing on a procedural issue.
Cernovich
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You can follow the Patreon lawsuit live here:
https://sfsuperiorcourt-org.zoom.us/j/5769311740?pwd=Qnp6Mys2ckhCREVvVkdEUnJSUVZqUT09#success
Cernovich
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The logic being applied in the Patreon can could be used against PayPal when PayPal bans accounts.
This Patreon lawsuit outcome has major implication.
A new legal front just opened up.
https://www.cernovich.com/patreon-mandatory-arbitration/
Patreon Faces New Legal Peril Under California LawPublished 5 months ago on February 11, 2020
Patreon has lost several high profile creators including Sam Harris, Dave Rubin, and Jordan Peterson due to Patreon’s decision to begin censoring creators for ideological reasons.
Cernovich
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Under the Court's preliminary ruling,
ANY LARGE CREATOR banned by Patreon
can have his or her backers move for arbitration.
Patreon will have to pay millions of dollars in legal fees upfront.
This is a HUGE workaround for Big Tech censorship.
Cernovich
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Unless the judge in Patreon reverses himself, then Patreon's loss in court today will be devastating.
They will be on the hook for hundreds of arbitration fees.
But anything can happen in any given moment.
Will the judge overrule himself?
We will soon find out!
Cernovich
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The judge is hammering Patreon's lawyer, and is not impressed with his arguments.
Looks like Patreon is about to lose here, and lose badly.
Cernovich
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Court, "The tentative ruling is to DENY the motion for injunctive relief."
Patreon has presumably lost, unless they are able to persuaded the judge at this hearing to reverse himself.
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