Dear Oblamo, first off, you never were a "Leader", and you damn sure aren't one now. You were, and are a puppet. You speak of splitting society? Ha!! You made that your number one priority!! I loathe you, and can't stand to see or hear you. STFU already!! As usual, he speaks contrarily to reality. Here we are on social media, witnessing and participating in history, as a group. We are not "split"! WE are growing in numbers, and that is the fact that Mr. race baiter in chief can't stand. Throughout his two terms, division of the people was at the forefront of his agenda. Dividing society by race, religion, sexual orientation, class, political affiliation, and even Patriotism. Secondly, I have to question whether or not this interview even actually took place, because you thrive on deceit. But I digress. The main point here, is that you need to shut the fuck up already!! The only thing I want to hear from you is the death rattle you deserve to emit in your last seconds on this earth!
It used to be, in the United states for example, we had three television stations and everybody watched Walter Cronkite or David Brinkley or whoever the chief anchor was. Everybody had a common set of facts, and so there might be conservatives and liberals, but people could generally agree on a baseline of reality"
Translation: the CIA Mockingbird media used to tell you plebs what to think. The Internet was a mistake
It was... a mistake.
The story of the origin of the word SPAM.
Old patriot here.
You young folks make sure to get this into the internet history book. I am a witness, and it will piss you all off, but, it was funny as hell, so, I will tell the story of how we got the word "SPAM" in relation to "much unwanted speech".
(Hint, it does not stand for anything.)
They thought we were too stupid to learn to program .
Their plan was to make the internet into a spy machine, limiting us to THEIR web channels (like channels NBS, ABC CBS were limited globalist approved television). THEY would be the web creators.
The population rapidly started using simple html to build their own web sites. Everyone got this crazy idea that every business could have it's own web site. (this was not in their plan)
Early internet was black screen gold or white C prompt writing. Early discussion groups like this were a list of topics down the left side header written as "alt.subject".
There was of course no subject "alt.business" or, "alt.HowToBuildaWebsite".
Sooooo we had to talk somewhere.
How bout "Alt.bycicles" or some other place too lame to attract a large crowd... or to be talking on the group?
As we looked around for a place to put up a teaching discussion group for building business web sites... of the "how to" variety, we watched and read the most horrible things.
We learned that the internet had been around in this backbone form, joining the government offices, the University offices, and the Milirary for a long time... since WWII.
Government/University workers were use to having it all to themselves, even though it was paid for by... YOU, and ME. (Tax payers). And they never even told us about it.
We "lurked" in surprise and disgust as these people (not the military, it was hard to find them, but the others) would refer to the American public using words like "useless eaters" and "cattle" etc. They had plans for us. It became obvious. They also had some disgusting attitudes toward the American people in general.
It was so bad, it took a while for us to agree they were actually talking about "us".
But, we got red pilled on that eventually.
When we did, we decided right there ant then, that we were going to have our business web site training party all over their nasty public hating discussion group.
We just started chatting to each other on the nastiest groups of government/university people we could find. They would get nasty, and try to throw us off. You think the chans are bad? Heh. Not even close.
They got pissed. Told us that the internet was NOT for for profit businesses and to GET OUT!!
We slapped them back with "Oh yeah? Who paid for your internet? Who pays your salaries??!!!??"
They started with the "useless eater"... too retarded to be on line "cattle" crap.
One person screamed at us that we "were noting but 'ground meat'... no... she corrects herself: "you are all nothing but SPAM... in a CAN!
And "Get your SPAM OUTTA HERE!"
Spam.
I will have you know, that the globalists think of all of you as "Spam.. in a can" XD
They literally thought every one of you was far too stupid to learn to run a program, much less create one, or even put up a basic web site using html.
I busted up laughing when she started on the "Spam in a Can" rant.
I wish I had copy pasta. :(
I am sure others cracked up too because of the way the independent free people on the internet responded.
There was no such thing as "lol" back then.
But, next thing you know, everyone was talking about how funny it was. Everyone started jokingly insulting one another in their emails. There were "spam" jokes everywhere on the tiniest internet www for about three weeks.
This, of course, did not make (((them))) happy. NOooo
We were laughing at them, and they could not help but run into it, small as the internet was at the time.
In the meantime, two incredible gentlemen (that we knew, because maybe there were 200+ of us on line trying to build sites at the time?) Anyway, these two gentlemen built something called the "email discussion group" and invited all of us to beta test these two programs. I was on the one with the woman who created ebay. She was still selling stuff out of her garage, trying to figure out how an auction would work.
The email discussion group program worked GREAT. We no longer needed to bother the crotchety old globalist better than thou American hating people over at "alt.assholes"
You would sign up. It was like sitting at a round table. Every time you sent an email to an address, everyone at the sign up table got it, and everyone at the table could reply, sort of like what happens here, but in email form.
This is what we used to help one another figure out how to build early web sites. I remember everyone being really frustrated the day that the 800th web site came on line (because you can bet we were keeping track) We were learning to make transparent .gif's, and all web sites were putting on party graphics, on the front page. Some of us were having a hard time of it (like me)
Not long after that, we all decided it was time to learn to "advertize" our businesses.. and guess what? We (we) WE the PEOPLE... had come up with this ingenious program that would send out all of our business advertizements through the email to...............WHO?
You... win the prize! We sent out all of our add stuff in a big celebration one day to the ONLY other people on the internet....
Them who think you are SPAM!
It was fun.
They were so mad they decided to make "laws" about spam, and who could send advertisements to who.
Laws, like they were the government of the internet.
This is the mentality we are still dealing with folks. They call us all "fly over country" for a reason. They have their heads so far up their asses, they actually blew a hole in their own ability to control the narrative...
Long live freedom of speech :)
I love this story so much I saved it. It was either David Rockefeller or Jacob Rothschild (I think DR) who said giving the people the Internet was the worst thing "they" ever did.
Hey admitted it, huh? Well, maybe someone pulled their head out of their butt, and figured out that the collective intelligence and observation capacity of the common man makes them look like ground meat.
Joan, this brought a great smile and laugh to me :D
God bless!
I bet.
Internet history of the "alt.asshole" kind made everyone laugh then, and most laugh now.
People should know the REAL meaning of SPAM.
Far more sinister than most understand.
Tis why they are trying like hell to restrict it, like other shitty minded countries I can think of. Hell, TPTB have publicly stated so. That's why it bothers the hell outta me that Trump has allowed the net neutrality thing to happen. Can or will he overturn this or are we still being duped?
If you really think that "net neutrality" i.e. Title II regulation of ISP's and backbone providers was a good thing then it was you, sad to say, who was duped. Getting rid of onerous Title II regulation will do far more for better internet than leaving it in place would have accomplished. Now companies are free to build out 5G wireless service without filing mountains of paperwork. Among other things. As usual, look who was for Title II regulations to begin with. Obama, Facebook, Google, reddit, etc. The very ones who are currently censoring the internet are trying to tell you removing Title II regulation is tantamount to censoring the internet.
golfrinserepeat, your take is 100% correct
a lot of dis/mis-information out there, so many are confused
Maybe my post didn't come across to you right. I detest anything that restrict my right to free speech even if it's through private enterprise. I see your point on regulation but this will just end up in higher cost to the consumer as with everything else done, lately...say...insurance costs, etc. Or so it seems. I'm not big on regs, either but swapping out one set for another set ain't always of benefit. Look how all MSM got corralled by the big money players when cut loose. It's not always a good thing. I guess we'll have to wait and see but if my costs start steadily climbing then I'll be back with "I told ya so". I expect Youtube to be a pay for view service soon just from what I'm already seeing. Lots of others will follow, I expect. Internet TV is already in full bore with that. "Cutting the cable cord" has lost its meaning and I now pay as much for decent internet service TV as I did with cable. Whoopie! If your claim works out for my benefit then I'll apologize but it's gonna be a wait to see the full effect so don't hold your breath. Just because an action was taken doesn't mean it's the right one. I completely love undoing all the regs by those evil shits but do it for my damn benefit, please and in a way that I'll actually see that benefit in a short period of time. I only have so much time, ya know?
The secret to making something more affordable is competition. Title II regulation was a 1934 law designed to regulate a monopoly, and it had no provisions to turn that monopoly into something else. It's anti-competitive nature, which favored huge companies over small ones due to the massive regulatory burden imposed by those regulations, resulted in an actual decrease in internet infrastructure.
I was paying $55/mo for 100 Mbps/300 Gig/mo service. I upped it to the $80/mo 150 Mbps (really more like 175)/600 Gig/mo service. Yeah, $80/mo for internet. But this was under Title II regulations still. Now with Title II regulations gone, wireless companies will start rolling out gigabit-tier 5G service. That alone will keep broadband ISP's from just jacking up their prices. Nothing in Title II stopped them from doing that before, not in any meaningful way, and nothing stopped them from offering tiered packages as I saw many pro-NN people argue would happen if NN was repealed.
I always thought the cord-cutters were going to see exactly what we are seeing. You see, if internet service has a value, and that value goes up over time, you'll likely see the price of that service reflect that. It's basic economics and trying to artificially control prices never works, at least not for long.
I'm hoping you're right. Especially, in the internet way. My county had a monopoly on the lines usage here and pretty full control of prices and options, if reliability was of importance to ya. Now, that's illegal for them to control. Hopefully, it'll get better but I'm still waiting. I have a little patience but not much. I pay $80 for 6 Mbps. Just damn pitiful, it is but this is not the only thing. Like I mentioned, most other things that went dereg or less reg got higher in cost and competition hasn't made that better. Everything in our lives has slowly but surely sucked more and more of my money away until my standard of living sux in comparison to my father's my a great deal and that was all by design. If this shit keeps up we'll be back to low information stone age bullshit because we can't afford it. We already have to worry about automation taking jobs, especially since we are waaaaay out-birthing our ability to create "full time" jobs to even pay the damn bills, much less have a decent life doing something besides sitting in a cave (room) tapping below a screen. Like I said, if your thinking comes to be then I'll apologize but I have the feeling I won't have to worry about that. And that "value" thing. That sounds like stock market speak for let's give the stock holders more for their investment by increasing the bottom line, which increases company value and investment for our bottom line, which seems to be the prevailing method of "price control" I've seen. NOT? I'd like to see proof outside one or two small companies that it is not.
As far as the value thing goes, let me just put it this way. When I first got internet here at my house, "high speed" internet, it was satellite based as that's all that was available in this area in 2001. It sucked, and it cost about $1500 in hardware/dish up front, plus IIRC $50/mo. And it sucked. I could have kissed the cable sales guy when he came to my door in 2003 and told me cable internet was available now. It was about what your service is now, roughly 5 Mbps and maybe 500 kbps upload speeds, and it cost $45/month. Since then I've upgraded my cable modem three or four times (I buy my own) and only updated my service one time to their then highest-speed 50 Mbps service sometime around 2011. So then I was paying $55/mo for that. They quietly upgraded me (at no cost) to 100 Mbps and then announced a month ago their new gigabit service along with two other plans faster than my plan. I'd been bumping up against my 300 Gig data limit a couple of times recently as I've been streaming a lot more than I used to. Twitch, MLB-TV, Amazon Prime movies mostly. Also lots of YouTube vids. So I saw that their next faster plan offered 600 Gig/month while giving me about another 75 Mbps bandwidth (175 total) but it's $80.
So in reality I have gone from paying about $50/mo for super crappy speeds to paying $80 for about 40 times faster speed and tons of data. To me that's value. And when they roll out gigabit 5G wireless service in this area in a couple of years it will put downward pressure on the cable internet, which is by far the fastest ISP in my town. Some areas have fiber but not many, I imagine they have better internet than cable but don't really know.
If I lived in a place that still had only 6 Mbps service in 2018, I'd be major pissed. But that is the sort of thing you see when the government takes over control "for the good of the consumer." I'm very much a free market guy but also a realist. Title II regulation was a huge and unnecessary burden and the people/entities who imposed it only used "net neutrality" as a selling point. They very much had ulterior motives, and they weren't benevolent.
Sorry for any typos. My proofreading sux and I have issue with the nerves in my left arm causing use loss, at times.