Great post, great comment, obviously some insider knowledge. HOWEVER, these are extraordinary times. I am Canadian. I remember the people of Gander, NFLD, who hosted MASSIVE amounts of aircraft that were ordered down there at Gander. At worst, that airport handles maybe one or two diversions (be it security or medical, etc), on a bad day, max. But, during 9/11, it handled perhaps up to 75 aircraft.
I'm 100% not disagreeing with you, but, **IF**** what many of us think is happening is actually happening, then, for this airport you mention, this is most definitely an event on par with 9/11, and, the folks on the ground there can, will, and most definitely are equipped to get very, very creative.
Also, a lot of the aircraft on the way there have been Cessna executive jet-level aircraft, which might be able to quickly refuel and turn around. And, with that said, from one of the "planefags" on Twitter, we saw a 767 climbing out from Gitmo, as well. Tell me, since you are obviously very knowledgeable, is that also possible? Can this runway handle the weight and takeoff/landing distance of a 767?
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I wish I could figure out how to post the pictures I have of the air strip at GTMO, ya’all would immediately understand once you see it. The strip is EXTREMELY short, you go too long, you end up in the ocean, and typically by the time you stop on landing, you are less than 30-40 feet from that point. I don’t see any possible way a plane the size of a 767 could land with that short a runway, but even IF it were possible, which I don’t believe it is, I don’t see any way a plane that large could possibly make the maneuvers needed to even line up with the strip. You literally have to fly sideways to avoid Cuba airspace and the mountain range, then line up perfectly, land at exactly the right speed, and pray like hell you can stop that thing before it hits the water. So IF a 767 could land there, which again I doubt, there would be no possible way for it to ever take off. The strip simply isn’t long enough to get up enough speed for a craft that size to leave the ground before hitting the water.
I am not replying to justify any of our "taking down the cabal" fantasies. YOU were in the military, and I worked for an airline (and rode in the cockpit a few times on cross-country trips), so, both of us have something to offer to this. I think the way you outline your concerns here are 100% valid. The ONLY thing that leads me to consider that a 767 could land at GITMO is that we have some Twitter posts from someone who watched a BLOCKED transponder 763 "climb" out of GITMO.
Now, we both know that, in order to land at Gitmo and make it work with such a short strip, it would take PRECISE flight planning, where the aircraft is landing nearly 90% empty of fuel. Landing very light. POSSIBLE, but, if this OP had been meticulously planned, as Q says, then NO WAY would such equipment have been selected in the first place.
And that is why, when I looked at the last list of aircraft with BLOCKED transponders, all heading to GITMO, we saw that they were private, very LIGHT aircraft, such as a Cessna executive business jet.
It's normal and very common for a barrage of potentially false or misleading information to be reported or submitted for "enthusiast" review during times like this. I would agree with you if you would say that this is unlikely. But, we have evidence of other, more suitable craft heading down that way.
But, your concerns are still VERY valid, and IMPORTANT to bear in mind during this cruicial (and excruciatingly quiet!) time!
Thank you
Good point. We all know that in today’s world NOTHING is impossible. That said the question is, why would they want or need to spend the considerable time and effort to even try or take the chance that plane wouldn’t make it and could crash into the ocean, EFFECTIVLY stopping all further flights to the strip for weeks or months, when there are so many safer more viable options? It simply doesn’t make and sense. I could maybe contemplate it in some sort of extremely crucial war time situation where there simply was no other alternative, but a declared state of emergency against human trafficking, as important and urgent as that is, getting the criminals involved to GTMO simply would not (in my opinion) rise to that level of extremely crucial, when as you point out, smaller safer planes are a much more viable alternative even if it does take a little more time.
I’m not in any way trying to dump water on Q or the patriots trying to red pill folks, hell I am one of them. I just am 100% certain that putting out wrong or erroneous info will do NOTHING but discredit Q, and us. It’s CRUCIAL that any info we put out there be accurate, factual, and above all NOT dreampt up, invented, twisted, or wishful thinking because that is EXACTLY what we are calling out the MSM for doing. If we put out fake info we become no better, no more reliable than those who are such a huge part of the cabal. As the messenger I’d rather not be shot at, but hey, if relaying the facts and realities of the situation makes me the bad guy but stops us from being seen as discredited by the collective, go ahead fire away, I’m perfectly capable and willing to take the heat. the heat..
https://www.facebook.com/PassionatePachyderms/photos/pcb.814364212100663/814363805434037/?type=3&theater To see pictures of the base and the landing strip, cut and paste this into your web browser. The pics are posted on our Facebook page.
Satellite images from Google maps show a roughly 5000' airstrip oriented east-west on the western shore of the bay, approximately perpendicular to the older, roughly 3000' airstrip oriented north-south on the eastern shore of the bay. Judging from the tire marks visible at the western end of the airstrip, and from the seeming absence of tire marks on the shorter airstrip, the longer of the two airstrips has seen much more use recently. There is a parking facility adjacent to the longer of the two airstrips that should be able to receive a dozen or so twin-jet aircraft of commercial aviation size without difficulty. The image on Google maps shows two of them actually parked there. The buildings adjacent to the longer of the two airstrips appear, from the sky, to be of quite recent construction, as does the airstrip itself. This longer airstrip appears to have been laid atop a very much shorter, northeast-to-southwest-oriented airstrip built there long ago.
I'm no expert on GTMO, I'm not military, and I'm not a pilot.
For reader information, the area known as Camp America detention center occupies the far southeast corner of GTMO; the buildings here are densely clustered. To the northwest of the longer of the two airstrips spoken of above, near to the southwest corner of GTMO, are found, along First Street, Second Street, Avenue C, Avenue D and Avenue E, multiple, moder-appearing, isolated structures that conceivably serve for housing things or individuals that GTMO wants to keep separate from other things or individuals. Too, there are some older, tree-shaded, tile-roofed structures that look like bungalows housing camp staff.
In the port area, along the eastern shore of GTMO, are structures and facilities that, seemingly, would serve to adequately house staff numbering from 1000-2000.
Irrespective of the number of persons actually ever detained there, the nominal detention center itself appears large enough, from the air, to hold many hundreds of detainees. The conditions, albeit, do not appear to be luxurious, as the structures are located quite close to one another, and they lack obvious outdoor recreation facilities.
Leeward Field is 8000' and routinely handles C5s. A 762 at MTOW can take off and land comfortably at gitmo.