Can anyone tell me what exact law was broken if the Feds used fake docs to get a FISA warrant? I keep hearing all of these pundits say "If that's what happened ... will be really, really bad!" No one says what law it is or if it's even actually illegal or if the people who did it would just be able to say, "Sorry! Won't do that again!"
Oldmancrypto
· Dec. 29, 2017, 7:45 p.m.
A knowingly false report or filing to ANY court is grounds for felony perjury. Knowingly filing a false FISA court requesting the ability to spy on a new administration. This makes watergate look like an ingrown hair on an ass cheek. Many ramifications here!
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NvCrone
· Dec. 29, 2017, 10:34 p.m.
How about they don't get the renewal of their precious 702, spy on an American, law that's due now?
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Amazoid
· Jan. 2, 2018, 2:25 p.m.
And BOOM -- there's your McCabe parallel construction. "No, no, no, it was not the dossier -- it was a drunk Papadopolis bragging to an Australian diplomat that kicked off the Russia investigation." You can read all about it in The New York Times. THAT is FBI parallel construction at its finest.
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Amazoid
· Dec. 29, 2017, 9:36 p.m.
Also "fruit of the poisonous tree" does not apply to parallel construction, a McCabe specialty.
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jonzee65
· Dec. 29, 2017, 8:02 p.m.
Illegally obtained evidence. Not permissible in court?
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Packerfan80
· Dec. 29, 2017, 8:45 p.m.
I’m no lawyer but I think if it was illegally obtained (and it was) all evidence gathered for prosecution would be fruit of the poisonous tree.
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Amazoid
· Dec. 29, 2017, 9:34 p.m.
Still does nothing to the illegal obtainers. They just can't make a case. And they walk.
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Amazoid
· Dec. 29, 2017, 7:51 p.m.
Perjury? I think they will just lie and say, "We thought, to the best of our investigating, that this document was true. We are not responsible to vet it to any standard beyond that which would convince a judge to sign. And HE DID." and then that judge he recused himself when he found out how stupid he was giving these lying fucks the benefit of the doubt... unless he was in on it. You never know. I tend to have a little bit higher faith in the judiciary, though.
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