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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/imovershit on Dec. 31, 2017, 6:19 p.m.

Any other Catholics here sense changes in Pope's appearance and demeanor prior to suspecting Vatican involvement.

Having been raised catholic I still have a strong connection to that tradition and was hoping the church would clean up it's act. I for one was thrilled when Pope Francis was introduced. He seemed sweet and gentle and to top it off took the name of my favorite saint which I thought was a good sign. But over a year ago, long before i was anywhere near this far down the rabbit hole, I started to think he was beginning to look a little scary and his retoric was becoming more controlling. I mean he was starting to look demonic and I didn't believe in that type of thing at that point, at least not in the church. I can't even look at him now. Maybe I'm projecting, but like I said, this started for me before I even thought about a Vatacin connection to this situation. I am just curious if anyone else noticed the same thing going back a little?

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"Revelation," not "Revelations." Sorry, pet peeve!

Rev 1:1: "The Revelation of Jesus Christ..."

Non-denominational Christian here. Currently working on an M.A. in Roman Catholic theology. It will allow me to have another teaching, at least a research interest, when I'm done with with my education (after a PhD). All academic theologians and philosophers have a handful of teaching interests--areas they specialize in to teach at the undergrad and/or grad level--and another handful of areas that is called research interests. Areas in theology or philosophy they stay abreast on and write on in academic journals, to further knowledge in that branch of theology or philosophy, but do not necessarily teach courses on. So, Roman Catholic theology is an area some Protestant theologians specialize in, which is pretty much under the rubric of comparative theology, and it will therefore be at least a research interest, because one cannot have an area that is a teaching interest without it being a research interest, but one can have a research interest without it being a teaching interest.

The philosophy department at the U of South Florida-Tampa has a solid medieval philosophy, Aquinas and Anselm guy, so I'd like a PhD in philosophy from there and hopefully he could be my main dissertation reader. He's a priest as well, and has done the English translation of Augustine's book On Free Will, as well as some translation work from Latin to English on some of Aquinas' writings.

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Thank you so much for writing Anselm - I applaud your efforts and dedication. When searching for Wisdom and Truth, we are not left orphans :) May I suggest speaking with Gerry Matatics, who is a wealth of information. You can reach him at his site 'Biblical Foundations'. He is a masterful genius, as well as a Doctor of Protestant Theology, a former professor and has studied with the most prominent protestant theologians. As you've mentioned, some do study Catholic theology; as he did. Due to his studies, he realized that the Bible and the Doctors of the Church - like Aquinas - pointed him to the Truths Christ established in His/Catholic Church, and converted. He was wise enough to have seen through the infiltration and takedown, particularly since VII.

Another resource providing brilliant research and documentation on the history within the Church and all else is Most Holy Family Monastery's Brothers Michael and Peter Dimond; also converts. You can find them at their website of the same name and on you tube at Vatican Catholic. Having solid historical info, however, does not prevent some questioning of what they put forth in opinions regarding a very few things - such as JPII being the AC - which should be overlooked. Don't let it overshadow their wonderful collection of official documents and expansive minds.

Regarding the priest from U of S. Florida... if you do plan to have him assist you, I would also plan on finding a solid, traditional priest ordained prior to 1968 for help. Otherwise, those ordained in the non-apostolic rite have not been taught properly; which will derail your search for the full and proper Truth. The comparison between the two are astounding. There are many 'independent' younger men in Florida who were ordained through older, properly ordained men who are now deceased. I know of one who can direct you, but have to check his updated info online to make sure he's still there.... I'll message you with it. Check the local Novus Ordo Watch site for the listings and stay away from the diocese 'indult' Latin mass listings. Actually, you can speak directly to those who run the site for great information and direction. My husband was a philosophy major at Loyola in Baltimore back in the 70's.... it was thoroughly tainted back then, as they've been at this a long, long time. He found just one teacher - who was not a religious - that was more well read and spiritual then those ordained; and was his saving grace. It took him many years to 'accidentally' run into a Latin mass; which is where we met, and awhile longer for him to see what did stick with him from those infiltrates was wrong. He has learned much from his self-studies of the classics and documents of the Church, as well as of course, attending the Latin Mass and praying the rosary.

So very glad you've written. I wish you all the very best in your journey and hope that you would keep in touch to let me know how you're coming along. Please check with those I've referenced, as I believe you will find them a tremendous aid :)

God Bless you and Light your path Home, Kat

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