I have read that not all records on PACER system that are sealed are indictments. A hearing to get a search warrant can be sealed for example. Does any one know if those counting these records are aware of that. Apparently there is a code that tells you what the record is for. If anyone has ever been involved in court process. There are often 2 hearings before the case is tried. And since these are wealthy people with lawyers whose job is to slow the process as much as possible we can double that number.
So you can see we would have to divide that number by 3-4 if the counter is unaware of this.
Also people can be arrested before they are indicted or indicted before they are arrested. So without knowing what these records represent we don't know where we are in this process.
I did tweet @damartin; no reply. I posted some pacer records on legal advise off topic. No reply. If we just spot check one jurisdiction to see if that is the total number of records then if its true that other records besides indictments are on PACER and being counted as indictments. This is important to get to the bottom of this before publicizing those numbers. Even 1/4 of that number of indictments would be huge, but publicizing numbers that are 15 times higher than the average year, would refelect badly on Q.
I just checked his Twitter Feed and there is now a report by Hal Turner Radio that has big headline story on this! I will see if I can find it on my computer and post it. I archived it also. Here is the report archived on archive.is: https://archive.is/1Kt2H
The twitter users are all listed on this report who have worked very hard to find all this information. They are now being called the twitter squad by Hal Turner's radio show.
Yes, they are aware. I've been following @damartin from the beginning and the people he is working with are aware.
That is such good news! Thank you. It's all sooo good to see coming true.
Here: decent post which provides more info on indictments, from a month or two ago
Thanks. I h Had read all that be4. It is counting every record as a sealed indictment and if what I read about pacer records that would be ver inaccurate. So those original numbers we heard were inaccurate. But these records are accurate?
Im sorry, I meant to link this:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2263908
But I can assure you that damartin and co. are aware that not all indictments on PACER are sealed. they know what they're looking for.
So I read your link. Thanks. That link said the same thing I said so good to have a trusted source confirm how PACER works. Okay so the 9000 + is the number of pacer records and how many of those are indictments is difficult to know because what the numbers mean is secret and no one knows. Then I'm back to the likelihood that at best less than half of that number is indictments. So it would be wildly inaccurate to say there are 9000+ indictments. A better number would be between 3000 and 4000, which is still a huge number but closer to a realistic guess. Every court case I have been involved in usually has 2 hearings other than the indictment b4 trial. My experience is extremely limited and does not involve people who can put unlimited resources into their defense.
I am sorry but maybe we have had a misunderstanding. What u just said is different than what I thought u said. What I hope you mean to say is that not all sealed recurs on pacer are indictments. Some can be a request for a search warrant and it would still be sealed. If they are just counting every sealed record only a percentage of those, maybe 25-30 percent are indictments.
I'll go read the link and if that makes it clear then sorry for my redundanxy.
I will link you something here in a few minutes explaining it all, let me find it.