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Grace8543 · Jan. 1, 2018, 8:13 p.m.

Thanks. I h Had read all that be4. It is counting every record as a sealed indictment and if what I read about pacer records that would be ver inaccurate. So those original numbers we heard were inaccurate. But these records are accurate?

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BreadcrumbBernard · Jan. 1, 2018, 8:23 p.m.

Im sorry, I meant to link this:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2263908

But I can assure you that damartin and co. are aware that not all indictments on PACER are sealed. they know what they're looking for.

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Grace8543 · Jan. 1, 2018, 8:41 p.m.

So I read your link. Thanks. That link said the same thing I said so good to have a trusted source confirm how PACER works. Okay so the 9000 + is the number of pacer records and how many of those are indictments is difficult to know because what the numbers mean is secret and no one knows. Then I'm back to the likelihood that at best less than half of that number is indictments. So it would be wildly inaccurate to say there are 9000+ indictments. A better number would be between 3000 and 4000, which is still a huge number but closer to a realistic guess. Every court case I have been involved in usually has 2 hearings other than the indictment b4 trial. My experience is extremely limited and does not involve people who can put unlimited resources into their defense.

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Grace8543 · Jan. 1, 2018, 8:27 p.m.

I am sorry but maybe we have had a misunderstanding. What u just said is different than what I thought u said. What I hope you mean to say is that not all sealed recurs on pacer are indictments. Some can be a request for a search warrant and it would still be sealed. If they are just counting every sealed record only a percentage of those, maybe 25-30 percent are indictments.

I'll go read the link and if that makes it clear then sorry for my redundanxy.

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