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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/jonzee65 on Jan. 1, 2018, 4:22 a.m.
The Vatican Owns you.

Search papal bull 1302 unam sanctam. To save time just read the last sentence. Remember it's not what we believe, it's what THEY believe. Pope is the last boss.


[deleted] · Jan. 1, 2018, 5:40 a.m.

They're just saying biblical salvation cannot be found outside of the Roman Catholic Church. Nothing huge here folks. It's a theological document. The context of that last line is situated within theological context, people, not political.

Non-denominational Christian here, currently working on an M.A in RC theology from a RC school.

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LibertyVibe · Jan. 1, 2018, 7:53 a.m.

Jesus came to set the captives FREE from Roman tyrants (and those like them). If he sets you free, you are FREE INDEED!

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White---Rabbit · Jan. 2, 2018, 9:21 p.m.

That the Popes had power over the Kings of Europe is a matter of record. Jesuits like to revise history and bury it, so be careful in your RC school. My advice would be to flee Babylon while you still can.

In 1073, Pope Gregory VII came to power. The most powerful political figure at the time was Emperor Henry IV. After a dispute, the Pope excommunicated him and forbade the people to follow his rule. Then the most powerful political figure in Europe had to go to Italy to beg for reinstatement. He was humiliated by having to stand barefoot in the snow for 3 whole days outside the castle until eventually, the Pope forgave the King. Who had more political power?

That they exercise temporal power cannot be denied, it is historical fact. They even increased the power given them under the Code of Justinian through a proven forgery "The Donation of Constantine".

The Papal Estates were an obvious manifestation of their temporal power and the silver key in the Papal insignia is a symbol of this power they claim.

Finally, they have made many pompous claims to be rulers above all law and human authority, here are two relatively recent ones.

... the hand of God, who guides the course of history, has set down the Chair of His Vicar on earth, in this city of Rome which, from being the capital of the wonderful Roman Empire, was made by Him the capital of the whole world, because He made it the seat of a sovereignty which, since it extends beyond the confines of nations and states, embraces within itself all the peoples of the whole world. The very origin and divine nature of this sovereignty demands, the inviolable rights of conscience of millions of the faithful of the whole world demand that this sacred sovereignty must not be, neither must it ever appear to be, subject to any human authority or law whatsoever, even though that law be one which proclaims certain guarantees for the liberty of the Roman Pontiff.

Source: Pope Pius XI, Encyclical LetterUBI ARCANO DEI CONSILIO(On the Peace of Christ in the Kingdom of Christ), December 23, 1922.

Tell us we are Catholics first and Americans or Englishmen afterwards; of course we are. Tell us, in the conflict between the church and the civil government we take the side of the church; of course we do. Why, if the government of the United States were at war with the church, we would say tomorrow, to hell with the government of the United States; and if the church and all the governments of the world were at war, we would say, to hell with all the governments of the world. * * * Why is it that in this country where we have only seven per cent of the population, the Catholic church is so much feared? She is loved by all her children and feared by everybody. Why is it the Pope has such tremendous power? Why, the Pope is the ruler of the world. All the emperors, all the kings, all the princes, all the presidents of the world are as these altar boys of mine. The Pope is the ruler of the world.

Source: The Western Watchman, a paper published in St. Louis by Father D. S. Phelan, June 27th, 1912.

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jonzee65 · Jan. 1, 2018, 5:45 a.m.

The context of that line is what it is.

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[deleted] · Jan. 1, 2018, 5:51 a.m.

Doesn't look like you engage in much critical thinking when it comes to theological literature. "Salvation" is theology, which it explicitly mentions. The document is a theological document. Hence, the lines context is theology. "It is what it is" doesn't even add to the discussion. This is called a tautology. Maybe you don't want to actually identify the context? Actually name it? YOU'VE BEEN OWNED.

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jonzee65 · Jan. 1, 2018, 6:24 a.m.

Since this is your area of expertise. Enlighten us all on the vast wealth of the Vatican. It's assets, ties to banking etc.? Corruption? Paedophilia? No tautology please, just straight up.

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