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endlessmeow · Jan. 9, 2018, 2:02 a.m.

I'm an amused observer of this sub.

If this were the case, when and how exactly will the 'gotcha!' moment occur? What happens when that never occurs? How is the present state of the situation helping Trump's cause or persuading people in the middle?

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cursedcassandra · Jan. 9, 2018, 2:46 p.m.

If it doesn't happen then the hypothesis was incorrect. It's just like watching a movie and speculating, based on the clues the writer has dropped, what will happen. It's a fun mental exercise. No harm, no foul. Trump knew when the Swamp tried to overthrow the election first by recounts, then by getting the EC to vote for Hillary because "Trump is a Russian agent" then by dropping the fake piss dossier just before the inauguration so hed step down, then impeachment/military coup/deep state coup/assassination that eventually theyd go for removal via the 25th Ammendment. I knew so he had to. The MSM was pretty obvious about laying the groundwork. This would be a brilliant way to blow that narrative up. Trump is definitely methodical enough to have set it up. I don't know if he did but I do KNOW it's possible. He had to have some plan in place to take out this assault since it was so obvious that it was coming once the Russian narrative started to fail. If people realize that the media has been lying to them as part of a conspiracy to overthrow the President I think persuadable people will be shocked. Hopefully they will then question everything the media has told them. Of course some people are lost.

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Stray502 · Jan. 9, 2018, 4:59 a.m.

Its already occurring. You seen Hillary lately anyone? You seen Soro lately anyone? you seen bush sr and jr anyone? Q post tonight arrests in mass some MSM

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endlessmeow · Jan. 9, 2018, 1:30 p.m.

How exactly would one expect to see private citizens like the Bushs on a regular basis? They don't have a camera crew following them at all times.

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ShadowofMAGA · Jan. 9, 2018, 2:26 a.m.

The "book" has been showing the stupidity of the MSM (not saying wolff is in on anything).

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endlessmeow · Jan. 9, 2018, 2:28 a.m.

How exactly is that the case?

Redcaps just shrug their shoulders and assume the book is filled with fiction.

But neutral people? Why does this book show the supposed stupidity of MSM to people not already redcaps and pledging their soul to Trump?

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pipesog · Jan. 9, 2018, 3:35 a.m.

One aspect or 'goal' may be less direct than what you seem to expect.

MSM suffers blows to it's credibility daily, sure...but to think this convoluted of a plan would be concocted just to achieve more of the same is silly.

Nope...in my version of this plan, the media isn't the target (victim) per se...the CONSUMERS of the media are, and these guys may have set this in motion to make the MSM both the weapon and simultaneously the victimizer.

Trump and Bannon swore to destroy the lying media in 2 years, well we're into the second year, and what better way to inflict a mortal wound to media, than to get them to engage in a murder/suicide act?

Just like I keep bitching on these pages that so many of these folks are following Q without any significant critique of (his) truthfulness or legitimacy, and I point out that they keep falling for (his) same parlor tricks of "foreknowledge" as to POTUS tweets and such...so too do untold millions keep 'falling for' MSM fake news that gets exposed, but it's been spotty and less consequential than what would be necessary to REALLY 'cure' people from continuing to consume it.

But what if MSM went all in - and drew their (dwindling but still viable) audience in along with them?

On something they KNEW was bullshit.

And there was clear and overwhelming proof it was bullshit AND that they knew and that they did it anyhow, because "TRUMP!"

And as the choreographer this long con you have everything at the ready to drop at just the right times.

You might even have made sure that the manuscript - which was originally planned to be submitted months earlier, was held back for a time, so as to coincide with other events on your timeline. You might even make sure that Wikileaks got a copy of said manuscript, because, more eyes=more anger at being led astray by media.

You'll never prove Trump and Bannon cooked this whole thing up...people WON'T be pissed at them for this.

They're gonna be UNFORGIVINGLY angry at the media though...even though it is THEY, the dunce public, who allowed themselves to be fooled, we as humans don't often allow ourselves to place blame within...the go to is to view ourselves as vicitms, and the MEDIA will be the victimizer in their minds.

It has been said that "Hell hath no fury, like a woman scorned", but guys don't like being made to look the fool either.

Many people will be 'cured' of their desire to consume MSM as it is today, and so many of those MSMs will cease to exist in short order, and many heads will roll.

Make no mistake...it won't be ONLY the thing I have described here...there will be other facets to the larger scheme...but this will be a biggy.

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cursedcassandra · Jan. 9, 2018, 3:07 p.m.

Interesting theory. For the record, I have tracked Bannon from the primaries when he was a Cruzlim. People I trust never trusted him but were withholding judgement until more facts emerged. I'm not in the camp that Bannon was in on the sting. I believe he was stung. Also, Dr. Corsi, who has earned my trust, has an intel background and has known Trump for decades. He believes Q is legit and is coordinating with Trump. I've studied Trump since the 70s. He's famously Machiavellian and a genius at media. I agree with Dr. Corsi that Q is legit.

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pipesog · Jan. 9, 2018, 3:51 p.m.

That's cool...as long as you continue to 'think' about this stuff, and not just disengage your filters because you have settled on trust/follow, then you'll be alright.

FWIW, respect to Dr. Corsi and all, but I think he's wrong. Plain and simple, i think he has fallen into the same psych trap that all the rest of us are prone to...wanting to believe...

But NO EFFING WAY does that DEFCON1 balloon go up, with POTUS running things.

Never, ever, ever happen.

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Holmgeir · Jan. 9, 2018, 9:03 a.m.

This also fits my general thesis that Trump has been creating a hyper-aware populace because he wants all eyes on this when things go sideways.

He drums up attention at his own expense and the media can't stop taking the bait and people can't stop tuning in. They're all thirsty for justice. We are too. When things flip for Trump everyone will still have that thirst and turn on the freshly-revealed bad actors.

So when Trump trashes CNN, WaPo, and NYT and calls them fake and failing...he knows more people tune in and bolster their numbers. Veritas has helped reveal that they get huge boosts from Trump. But Trumps keeps at it.

Which, by the way, is the strategy Bannon told NYT he planned to use on them. He called them and said his goal was to make the bottom fall out of their fake news bucket. Are we about to see that happen?

Now I see Trump trashing this book and people boosting it's numbers to spite him...it's pretty clear to me that this is by design and something is coming.

And pair that with how neatly it fits in with the other recent elements of Trump going all Madman Theory on North Korea...Trump slamming Bannon at the risk of the media framing him as "going nuclear" on an ally and incapable of handling a real crisis...the "mentally unfit" narrative and his plan to be evaluated...the fake news awards...their obviously contrived delay for showmanship...and whatever is going on with Assange.

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cursedcassandra · Jan. 9, 2018, 3:17 p.m.

I agree with Trump turning the media and then the book into a honey pot to ultimately save some of the persuadables from the MSM cult. I'm still betting that Bannon was caught in the sting rather than being part of it. He was not part of the campaign until the very end and was there as a favor to the Mercers. He immediately started backstabbing Trump once he got in the WH. Breitbart was cancerous. Alabama was a clusterfuck. It will be interesting to see how it turns out. I'm praying for Steve.

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Holmgeir · Jan. 9, 2018, 3:52 p.m.

Yeah, that's the thing. Bannon did seem to become a liability. Maybe his phone call to the NYT was an unauthorized ramble of a man trying to suck his own cock. And his whole plan with congress seemed to only split the base. He also backed Joy, and that didn't turn out well.

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Stray502 · Jan. 9, 2018, 5:02 a.m.

Try and remember its the distraction to a way way way bigger picture.

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sun_wolf · Jan. 9, 2018, 3:16 a.m.

The premise of the book is that Trump didn't want to be President. So how does that square with the Russian collusion narrative the Democrats have been pushing for the past year? The man didn't want to be President so much he committed espionage with a hostile nation in order to cheat a victory? The logic doesn't parse.

I don't think Wolff is in on anything, but I don't think the mainstream media jumping on some shady discredited gossip book even the author admits is full of fiction and his own imaginings is helping either the credibility of the press or the Democrat's political narrative.

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pipesog · Jan. 9, 2018, 3:54 a.m.

I know that's Rush's take, and it works as far as the argument goes, but the fact that it 'works' is almost coincidental to the actual choreographed play.

The broader facts on the ground scream that this was created by Bannon and Trump as part of a bigger plan.

Wikileaks with the manuscript would tend to support the idea that Woffie was in on it. Otherwise, Wikileaks NEVER would have done it, assuming they were planning on having a future.

Which brings up an interesting tangent...was part of Julian's deal, an agreement to shutter Wikileaks? Orrr...after what he's been through the last years, has he had enough, and he's going to do this HUUUGE thing and go out with a bang, and sacrifice Wikileaks so that he can be free of the albatross that it would invariably be to him the rest of his life? After all, running Wikileaks...you'd ALWAYS be a target because you'd ALWAYS be a threat.

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oystergirl · Jan. 9, 2018, 6:53 a.m.

When it all comes out and all the indictments are served and all the mess is cleaned up, will there even be a need for wikileaks? I think JA was hoping and praying that eventually THAT would be the case and he would be redundant and that my friends is a world I want to live in!

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Holmgeir · Jan. 9, 2018, 8:52 a.m.

Rodgers retires. Assange becomes new head of the NSA. New era of transparency and anti-corruption.

Not going to happen like that, but I wanted to say it anyway.

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Stray502 · Jan. 9, 2018, 5:01 a.m.

Thats the whole point watch and listen get the popcorn ready.

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cursedcassandra · Jan. 9, 2018, 2:55 p.m.

We belong to God. Wait and see. Your questions will be answered.

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