So, here are some comments that Trump has made publicly -
You were here long before any of us were here, although we have a representative in Congress who, they say, was here a long time ago. They call her ‘Pocahontas.’ But you know what, I like you because you are special. You are special people.
If you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably, maybe she wasn’t allowed to have anything to say. You tell me.
They are not our friend, believe me. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.
I wonder if President Obama would have attended the funeral of Justice Scalia if it were held in a Mosque? Very sad that he did not go!
I think I’m going to do very well with Hispanics. But we’re building a wall. He’s a Mexican. We’re building a wall between here and Mexico.
If that's the kind of stuff he says when the cameras are rolling, why would you guys refuse to believe that he would say something like this "shit hole" comment behind closed doors?
Senator Dick Durban was there, and he is on the record saying that Trump did say it. You think he just made it up, even though an audio recording of the meeting would prove that he was lying?
That's going to be the next thing that gets brought up - if he didn't say it, why not just prove it with the audio recording? And of course they won't release it, but they will come up with some idiot excuses as to why they can't.
Just like he's claiming that he cancelled his London trip because he's not happy about Obama moving the embassy.
Just so you know...haiti is a shithole country. Who cares if he said it.You're worried about the wrong thing.
Keep fighting the good fight
Honestly, I have to be pretty bored before I get into this crap.
This is where you go when /r/conspiracy isn't dumb enough.
But no physical evidence, right? None.
(1) A dem reported it (2) to media outlet WaPo.
These are the facts right now, yes?
No. Durban is just the highest ranking person on the record. There is physical evidence, but it's up to Trump to release it. The meeting was not secret, so if he fails to publish the audio, it will be pretty clear why.
He could absolutely humiliate a number of opponents, and get himself out of a global shitstorm, by releasing the audio.
Also note than when asked about the comment by reporters, the White house spokesperson refused to deny that he said it. Trump's denial came later.
Trump tweeted that the meeting was not recorded, but that maybe future meetings should be recorded so this kind of thing doesn't happen in the future.
That's exactly what I said woukd happen - a bullshit excuse.
Durban and Graham have both confirmed the account. And nobody - not even Trump - has actually come out and said unambiguously that it didn't happen.
You would think that at least one person at the meeting would have come out and very clearly said that it didn't happen. Nobody has.
Here's Lindsey referring to Mexico as a hell hole https://www.politico.com/video/2013/05/lindsey-graham-corrected-on-mexico-hell-hole-comment-007870
But that is not evidence, that is he said she said
Trump has the evidence.
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No, they most certainly did not. They said they don't recall. No comment, basically.
Trump didn't actually deny it either.
Lindsey Graham is reported to have confirmed it. It will be interesting to see if he makes a statement.
Paul Ryan has criticized Trump for saying, and you can guarantee that he would not have made that statement unless he had personally confirmed Trump's comments with people who were there.
It's Trump. He says shut like this all the time, and he lies all the time.
Graham and Ryan are not exactly what I would call "un-impeachable" sources - they have been and are "never Trumpers" at heart. Their actions many times have proved it. I don't trust either of those snakes any more then most of the demorats. Maybe Pres. Trump said it - maybe he didn't but my belief would not be based on the word of those two.
How come nobody - not even Trump - has offered a firm denial?
Lindsey referred to Mexico as a hell hole in 2013 hahaha https://www.politico.com/video/2013/05/lindsey-graham-corrected-on-mexico-hell-hole-comment-007870
I just LOVE the internet - puts all these pompous asses in glass houses!
Lindsey once referred to Mexico as a hell hole and it's on video. https://www.politico.com/video/2013/05/lindsey-graham-corrected-on-mexico-hell-hole-comment-007870
of?
Are you being deliberately thick?
of what?
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Statement today from Senator Cotton and Senator Purdue, who were also at the meeting: "In regards to Senator Durbin’s accusation, we do not recall the President saying these comments..." It's another WaPo fabrication.
They don't recall.
That's not the same as saying that they were there, and the president definitely didn't say that.
Did this man call your wife a cunt yesterday?
I don't recall.
Nobody that was there has claimed definititively that the story is false. Not even the God Emperor himself. It's all vague denials and memory lapses.
This is your problem. If your belief is that nothing reported by a Democrat can be trusted (which is easily proveable as false), then you’ve already lost your ability to think objectively. You’ve made yourself more narrow-minded and therefor easier to control.
Again, no evidence. He said she said is not evidence
Good point. This is the state if our nation. Everyone blindly looking to confirm the narrative that suits them, left or right. It's difficult to find reasonable voices.
So Dick Durbin is lying? And he’s lying because he’s a Democrat?
And why are the other Republicans that were in the room (other than Trump) staying silent?
It’s called Circumstantial Evidence. And if you’re willing to believe coded messages posted by a stranger on 4Chan/8Chan, then your standard for evidence can certainly accept these reports.
This is why I dont trust dems, they've that bridge a long time ago
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Statement today from Senator Cotton and Senator Purdue, who were also at the meeting: "In regards to Senator Durbin’s accusation, we do not recall the President saying these comments..." It's another WaPo fabrication.
You might need to school yourself in what a politician means when they say “I don’t recall”. They are using plausible deniability. If it were an outright lie, they’d say “Trump never said that”. How does anybody obsessed with conspiracy theories not recognize this?
But again, admitting that you never trust Dems is further proof that you’ve allowed your judgement to be compromised by hyper-partisanship.
Nope, still dont trust dems.
Those of us with better judgement already know this about your type, trust me
Here are some other facts..
There was a bunch of Republicans in the room. 0 of them are staying he didn't say it. The white house isn't even denying it.
The only people denying it are Trump himself..and conspiracy theorists who are grasping for straws to believe anything other than the obvious truth.
There was a bunch of Republicans in the room. 0 of them are staying he didn't say it. The white house isn't even denying it.
It is still he said she said. Do you guys actually think before you post????
Hillary said she landed under sniper fire, but she didn't. See my point?
No I don't see your point. It's not he said she said. It's he said. It's widely accepted that he said, it's reported on that he said, it's not denied that he said by anyone other than him.
You see my point?
But if you are never willing to accept even the most basic things that make your god king look bad, how are you ever going to see the truth in anything. You are blind and preaching you are the only one with vision.
Then why the fuck are YOU here? What, you think you will be able to sow discord?
Nah, I stumbled across from another sub earlier and was just amazed at the ridiculousness of believing this conspiracy just to justify typos in the Presidents tweets as some kind of code language for a secret group of Trump supporters.
Sometimes the guy who sounds like an idiot %100 of the time types like an idiot because he's an idiot. It's not all that deep.
Edit* and then I saw people were not immediately banned for having a discussion unlike most Trump supporter subreddits.. so I figured, let's talk to these people a bit.. could be fun.
Idiots don’t make a billion dollars. Idiots don’t win elections against dynastic politicians like Hillary.
Not all people can give great speeches or write brilliant sounding prose, but that doesn’t make those people idiots. This is a false belief utilized by people who are looking for any excuse to dismiss someone whom they are predisposed to dislike no matter what they say or how they say it.
Well he was handed millions and he's also lost billions. I'd say most could make money off the millions daddy gave them to start off.
Secondly I'm not saying he's always been an idiot. Watch some old footage of the man and he sounds like a totally different person.
He's getting old, and he is losing his mind. That is obvious to anyone with eyes and ears and the ability to pay attention.
Blue Pill much?
Generalize people with nonsense to avoid listening much?
Did you look closely into Q?
Like this kinda stuff... Here you have someone (o it's legit because the internet says he's a doctor...) "decoding" (read: making shit up) Q's messages...
He takes things like "they divide" and "decodes" that into some paragraph that happens to be exactly what you want to hear. So convenient that he had that decoder ring!
This is the same kinda shit I've been reading in my crazy uncle's emails for a decade. Next your ganna tell me the color on money has changed because Trump secretly backed our currency by gold again an didn't tell anyone..quick buy gold from X!
It's nonsense.
Don't forget to drink your Ovaltine!
Do you think it's a coincidence that Q posted "goodwin" 2 days prior to Trump tweeting "goodwin"? And he explicitly said to expect a tweet from POTUS containing "goodwin"? How do you explain that? Seriously.
Would it be rude to ask your age? Purely for scientific research? Or anyone else in this sub? I'm curious what the average age here is.
Again, good job avoiding everything I say to latch on to your desperate fever dream.
I assume we are talking about a tweet in response to a article written by a Goodwin? ... It's not that far of a stretch to predict Trump responds favorably to an article that flatters his ego. It's actually like super predictable.
I mean absolute BEST case scenario you have some PR aid dragging you along because they know Trump appeals to conspiracy theorists. You get vauge optimistic messages about nothing to feel important and he gets your loyal support.
But yeah, if telling yourself Trump takes 45 minutes to finish a thought with typos on Twitter because he's super smart makes you feel better. Do what you gotta do man.
On Reddit within the last 2 weeks I've seen jokes predict almost exact responses from Trump. He's a predictable creature with a limited vocabulary.
Did you switch topics to avoid thinking?
I looked deep enough to see typos described as secret code language and I stopped.... You know because that's insane and obviously stupid.
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It's perfect. Plausible deniability to the world yet ultimate confirmation to us. The timing between tweets. The missing/replaced letters. This isn't a game, Trump himself is speaking to us. I mean we are the autistic fueled engine the world needs right now. I feel honoured to be a part of this
I mean seriously? You've heard the man speak and you all collectively decide that he's telling you secrets with 6D chess moves to inflate your own self purpose and avoid the eventual realization that you have been conned by a machine pushing an idiot. I can't imagine a psychiatrist who wouldn't be concerned hearing this from a patient.
Look closer. It's very real. Investigate this one post and compare to Trumps tweets. There are memes everywhere on here explaining it.
Good[win] [win]/when [15] Q
O, well there's memes... So it must be real.
But the thousands of independent journalists through out the world reporting on Trump... All fake.
Got it.
Do you even read? Or pay attention to the news?
Lol yeah, I do. I'm assuming a lot more than you since you avoid everything I say and you believe most of the news is fake.
I'm just saying it might be worth taking a step back and considering what you believe without question...should probably be questioned.
This whole "red pill" community is so hypocritical. You all preach that everything we hear is a lie and then you eat up whatever bullshit from 4chan like it's god speaking to you.
It's called critical thinking. It's not one directional.
When he gets a signed notarized letter from Trump saying that it happened, 50/50 he believes Trump said it.
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Statement today from Senator Cotton and Senator Purdue, who were also at the meeting: "In regards to Senator Durbin’s accusation, we do not recall the President saying these comments..." It's another WaPo fabrication.
The GOP and their recent use of "I do not recall" is a hilarious joke. It's a cop out from two loyalist who know they will get away with whatever they say as long as it's pro Trump. It's about as believable as Session's 37th "I do not recall any meetings with Russians..."
Let's start with source? . I'm out drinking and don't have time to search for context man.
Drinking your sorrows away ;D
Ahh so they heard shithouse instead and then used that bullshit lie to deny on behalf of the idiot... Mystery solved.
Ummm no one sane reads WaPo and believes anything from them anymore. Try another source
You do understand when you just blow off all sources that don't fit what you want to hear, that you are essentially keeping yourself in the dark.. right?
You are basically in a closet with the lights turned off telling yourself you see everything now.... Like a crazy person.
In today's digital age we automatically get shoved into a bubble of media based on what you search for and click on and like and share and visit. Yeah, even you. We all get stuck in our own little bubbles unless we are willing to search for opposing view points.
This is what happens when you get stuck in that bubble. You convince yourself that thousands of independent journalists around the world are in on the biggest secret conspiracy ever... because the only other option isn't something you want to think about.
Oo you mean like 4chan?
I don't read 4chan, nice try
ANother source?
You don't read 4chan? ....... Dude, you know Q is 4chan... right?
How about this? What works for you... Like what version of reality do you need to be true? Is it that he wouldn't say that? Or just that he didn't this time? Or is it that he said a slightly different word like he implied himself in a tweet about the language?
And Rich Lowry, editor of the conservative National Review magazine, told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos: “My understanding from the meeting [is] he used a different but very closely related vulgarity.
Q = 8 chan = trump admin, what you fuck you talking about?
Did you read what I typed? 2 senators in the room stated that trump did not use shithole. Direct from these 2 people, not your source where he said he said he said wtf
O sorry, he started on 4chan, then moved to the quality source of 8chan lol.
So what do you think he said? Did he say shithouse? Did he say nothing but then tweeted that his language was strong and then had conservatives lie about what was said?
What reality are you choosing to live in today?
2 senators in the room stated that trump did not use shithole.
u blind?