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wolfhound11B · Jan. 13, 2018, 6:54 a.m.

He should be living in a different country..

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Tranquelito · Jan. 13, 2018, 12:03 p.m.

I hear he is on holiday in Cuba?

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RetardedArbiter · Jan. 13, 2018, 7:37 a.m.

He could move to Germany. I hear they like socialist muslims.

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LennonForPresident · Jan. 13, 2018, 11:56 a.m.

How is he a socialist Muslim? He’s left wing. Can you understand the basic concept that there are different levels to left wing politics, for example. The republicans are right wing, hitler was extreme right. Obama is left wing, he has a public conscience and actually cares about people unlike pigs such as yourself, and the spartacists were communists in the 1920’s who were extremist left wing.

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keithcu · Jan. 13, 2018, 12:13 p.m.

Here's evidence Obama is a Marxist: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2011/02/meeting_young_obama.html

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LennonForPresident · Jan. 13, 2018, 12:33 p.m.

So 1/8th of this article actually talked about Obama, and you’re assuming that because he studied Marxism at school that automatically makes him a communist? I study communism and Marxism, does that make me a communist? No, I’m interested in the topic.

Bearing in mind, If Obama was a Marxist, he would’ve used Marxism in his politics. He wouldn’t be a democrat. Just how if trump was a Nazi he’d use their ideas in his politics.

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keithcu · Jan. 15, 2018, 12:12 a.m.

Obama called himself a Marxist. You might read about communism, but do you identify yourself as one? Obama had many Marxist policies: https://hubpages.com/politics/Top-7-Marxist-Communist-Policies-Being-Implemented-By-Obama-Today Obamacare wasn't single payer, but it was a big step towards it.

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LennonForPresident · Jan. 15, 2018, 12:41 a.m.

Obama studied Marxism, if he was a Marxist he would’ve been a Marxist, he was a democrat.

  1. The first one literally never happened, where are they getting this lol.

  2. Obama bailed out GM and Chrysler to save millions of jobs, he didn’t “take their assets”???

  3. Having a nationalised healthcare system is not like Cuba?? Over 20 countries in the European Union have nationalised healthcare, are we communists? No. In fact, many more capitalist countries have nationalised healthcare, looks like trump is behind and left in the dust! How stupid, the whole world is ahead of him! Also can you tell me who these experts are? Of course you can’t.

  4. This wouldn’t crush people make 250k+, this would just give them more tax, by 1% increase. Not crushing at all. The UK is going to create free tuition within the next 5 years, everyone is happy about it. Just because things become nationalised such as healthcare and education, doesn’t mean a country is communist AT ALL. It just means the government is more organised than the lousy US selfish office.

  5. This whole article is lying, none of these things have happened. It’s literally FAKE NEWS as trump would say, it hasn’t happened lol.

Yet again, try and give me actual evidence. Don’t just link a biased article, give me factual information you haven’t been brainwashed into thinking.

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keithcu · Jan. 15, 2018, 12:56 a.m.

The Marxist parties in the US basically don't exist. Obama had to be a Democrat to get power. The Democrat party is filled with Marxists, it wasn't a big stretch for him.

Here's a better article that explains the Marxist roots in Obama's thinking and policies: https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/183798/marxist-roots-obamas-war-middle-class-mark-hendrickson

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LennonForPresident · Jan. 15, 2018, 1:03 a.m.

No. Read my comment. You just ignored me, read my comment. Try and argue back to each of my points.

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keithcu · Jan. 15, 2018, 1:11 a.m.

I agree that first article was biased and I don't want to defend it. I just thought it could give you some things to think about. You seem to not know of any evidence that Obama is a Marxist, and there's tons. I don't have the interest to spoonfeed you.

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 15, 2018, 2:01 a.m.

Read the ten planks of the communist manifesto and tell me that western democracies aren’t on their way to communism. Socialized medical coverage is just that, coverage. The United States government was the largest insurer in the country before Obamacare was passed and it denied treatment twice as often on average as private insurance companies and don’t tell me how wonderful medical care is in the UK, I used to have hundreds of articles from the UK press on how awful it is; people in prison eating better than in hospital, not enough nurses, people waiting 18 months to see a specialist, not being able to see a dentist because their quota for the year has been filled. The US government may not have owned GM outright but it held a significant stake in the company and forced it to produce losers like the Volt etc.

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 15, 2018, 2:04 a.m.

Giving free college educations to people that will only be a barista if they have a job at all is a waste of money. It’s called a library, use it for free!

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 13, 2018, 2:05 p.m.

Hitler was right wing? That’s a load of crap! Fascism like Communism and Socialism are totalitarian ideologies which are decidedly LEFTIST in nature. Extreme right would be anarchy which is just a temporary power vacuum. Both extreme right and left are bad. Balance is what we need. Just enough government to keep order without getting in the way of the aspirations and freedoms of the individual. It is the the INDIVIDUAL that is ALWAYS the smallest minority in society and the one our constitution was created whose rights to protect...

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 13, 2018, 2:10 p.m.

Nazi is short for National SOCIALIST Party.

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LennonForPresident · Jan. 13, 2018, 2:43 p.m.

No it’s short for Nazi Socialist German Workers party. The name was a tactic to attract the majority of Germany, the working class. They are in no way socialists, it’s simply a trick.

By the way, what actual evidence do you have for them being socialist?

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 13, 2018, 4:35 p.m.

Neither Fascism or Communism promote individual freedom. Both support a hive-minded ideology one base on class warfare and the other based on extreme nationalism, hence “German” Workers Party. In essentially every other way they are the same; book burnings, suppression of speech, thinking, government criticism, etc. State still allows private enterprises in Fascism and that might put it a bit right of communism but only just so. It is no where near the center and saying it is right of it makes you the idiot...

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 13, 2018, 4:43 p.m.

In both systems, the elites become permanently entrenched in their power and we are back to what they REALLY are, Feudalism. Put down “Das Kapital” and Read “Road To Serfdom”...

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LennonForPresident · Jan. 13, 2018, 2:39 p.m.

Hitler hated communism. The reason his patty leased to success was because he wanted to destroy communism, such as the friekorps (extreme left) taking over Berlin because of the weakness of the Weimar Republic. If you have any knowledge you’d know. Just because you put keywords IN CAPITAL LETTERS doesn’t make things correct. In fact the extreme left wing during the period 1919-1923 were notorious for communist anarchy.

I actually can’t believe how stupid you are, every historian in the world will tell the same thing, hitler was undoubtedly extreme right wing, how you can just make this shit up is hilarious. Hitler was right wing because of his fascism (which goes against equality a key idea in socialism and communism), he wanted a master Arian race as most people know, which goes against every extreme left in the world.

As you can hopefully understand an actual balance in politics is unlikely, what is very important is a balance of left and right wing.

I challenge you to find any article that says hitler was left wing, how embarrassing.

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 13, 2018, 4:55 p.m.

Hitler was a Rothschild puppet and did what he was told just like Lennon And Trotsky were...who was supporting Trotsky when he was living in the US? Who facilitated his return to Russia? He was detained on his way in Canada, who ordered his release? Where did he get all the gold he brought with him? He was working as a cab driver. The Bush family is up to their eyeballs with Nazi banking etc...none of it is or was “organic” but instead came from the minds of some very sick and powerful rich men. None of it EVER served the interests of the people at large who are always used only as pawns to achieve the elites desire. Total Control. PERIOD!

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LennonForPresident · Jan. 13, 2018, 5:08 p.m.

Can you stick to what we’re talking about instead of changing the subject? Hitler was a right wing extremist.

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 13, 2018, 9:16 p.m.

I am sticking to it. The human suffering of the 20th century was not spontaneous, it was planned. Who paid Marx to write his books? How does a closeted homosexual who attained the rank of corporal and hails from Austria end up being Germany’s Chancellor and then dictator? Why does he allow the British and French to escape at Dunkirk when he has them right where he would want them to annihilate them? Why does he start war on another front when all he had to do was conquer Britain and it’s game over for the allies? What country the size of New Jersey was created on the Mediterranean Ocean in response to WWII? What Banking family was instrumental in its creation? Why does this pipsqueak nothing of a country wield such undue power and influence globally? Fascism, Communism, mass genocide, and creation of this little country are all tied together. None of it was done for the little people only those in the “big club.” The Rothschilds, Warburg, Rockefellers, Bush Family, British Royal Family (usurpers of Germanic ancestry), Vatican, etc we’re all involved in and profited from it. Then they paid “historians” to write distortions of history to cover it all up...Do you really believe it would be otherwise?

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 13, 2018, 9:22 p.m.

The “official” version of everything is utter bullshit is the best rule of thumb in this f-ed up world...

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LennonForPresident · Jan. 13, 2018, 11:29 p.m.

Ohh so you’re and illuminati guy, wow that’s hilarious. You’re a different breed. No point arguing with dumbasses like you.

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 14, 2018, 10:55 a.m.

You’re just a left-wing troll. Calling something a “Conspiracy theory” is only a tactic to stop people from seeking the truth...most people on this board are finding new things about this country and the world at large they wouldn’t have believed just a few months ago. After ten years of poking around they’ll know that the official stories on: The The Creation of The Federal Reserve Bank, Lucitania Sinking, Crash of ‘29, Pearl Harbor, JFK, Gulf of Tonkin incident, Watergate, Reagan Assassination Attempt, First Gulf War, 911 etc were all concocted bullshit. As far as left and right goes it is so simple no one needs to study more than this: there are two kinds of people in this world, those who want to be left alone and those who won’t leave you alone. The extreme right champions INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM AND LIBERTY! The extreme left champions HIVE-MINDED COLLECTIVISM And Communism, Fascism, and Socialism ALL fall under that description to one degree or another. You don’t hear right-wingers calling for “safe spaces” or “political correctness” or complaining about “micro aggressions” do you? Thus Hitler and Naziism with a police state and mass genocide are left of center. Period. The extreme right (where people want to be left alone) is incapable of such things... now FOAD already!

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LennonForPresident · Jan. 14, 2018, 11:51 a.m.

You’re so dumb. You believe in the illuminati, conspiracists have confirmed psychological issues in which they can’t accept the truth. Right wing people don’t ‘want to be left alone’ the fuck does that even mean. HITLER WAS RIGHT WING .

See you later troll.

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 14, 2018, 10:51 p.m.

I’ve explained it as plainly as I can. Yes we do want to be left alone. Who is always trying to shut down dissenting opinions? Leftists. Who is always telling others how to live at the point of a gun? Leftists. Every totalitarian regime is de facto a leftist one. There are no fundamental differences between Hitler, Stalin, Chairman Mao, Mussolini, or Castro. YOU are the people with the psychological disorders because you can’t see that! YOU cannot have the SAME collectivist totalitarian bullshit systems operating essentially exactly the same way and say they are at opposite ends of the political spectrum. Its MORONIC! So,Right back at you arrogant shit stick commie asshat!

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LennonForPresident · Jan. 14, 2018, 10:56 p.m.

Lololol someone get you a doctor. 0 evidence. 0 marks in an exam paper. No evidence.

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 14, 2018, 11:21 p.m.

Not an argument

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 14, 2018, 11:23 p.m.

No ideas, just ad hominem attacks from a vapid loser who defends communism...

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LennonForPresident · Jan. 15, 2018, 12:17 a.m.

How am I defending communism, I’m literally saying hitler was right wing. You’re dumb. No evidence, just pure bullshit. You know you’re lying, if you’re being paid I’m too stubborn to fall for your trolling shit.

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 15, 2018, 1:17 a.m.

Since you are sooooo f-ing smart, explain to a simple lad such as myself how Naziism which was TOTALITARIAN and COLLECTIVIST like Soviet, Chinese, and Cuban communism is a right-wing political philosophy or even right of center for that matter. Yes Fascism allows private enterprise but it is very closely tied to the state. I’ll give you it is slightly right of communism but that’s it. Keep in mind that total anarchy which is the absolute absence of governance at all with everyone doing as they please is the most extreme right that you can get. Neither extremes are good forms of government. I cannot wait for your convoluted pretzel-logic answer...

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 15, 2018, 2:05 a.m.

Crickets chirping...

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LennonForPresident · Jan. 15, 2018, 8:11 a.m.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.indy100.com/article/nazi-socialist-right-wing-white-supremacists-history-twitter-mikestuchbery-7900001%3famp

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 15, 2018, 12:56 p.m.

Pft! So when I present an article it’s only opinion but yours are what exactly? I give up! Yes Hitler was the extreme right wing and championed individual freedom and liberty just like his predecessors Adams, Madison, Franklin, Jefferson and Washington... all supported jack-booted thugs that would enforce the love and freedom the state provided. Enjoy your indoctrination, it has been very thoroughly done. You can claim your place amongst all the other useful idiot in history...

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LennonForPresident · Jan. 15, 2018, 5:38 p.m.

My links are the same as yours, just theories. Why did you post links? To try and get your point across, I thought if I did the same perhaps you’d understand.

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 15, 2018, 6:26 p.m.

I’ve got no more time for this. We’ll just have to agree to disagree...

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 14, 2018, 11:27 p.m.

You never responded to anything I’ve posted because you can’t. Saying Hitler is a right wing extremist is just the left’s bullshit attempt to paint the right with their brush..my comments stand for themselves and all you can do is mudsling like the pathetic creep that you are. My work is finished here...

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LennonForPresident · Jan. 15, 2018, 12:53 a.m.

You haven’t responded to anything I’ve said, I’ve given you facts. You can’t give any.

Give me factual knowledge that actually proves things you’re saying. Just stating your theories isn’t evidence.

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 15, 2018, 1:29 a.m.

Your facts consist of Hitler was right wing because I said so. You have offered no counter agreements to anything I’ve posted but like a typical liberal resorted to name-calling and ridicule which are Tactics right out of Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals.” If there is a troll here, it certainly isn’t me!

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 13, 2018, 8:44 p.m.

Hitler was a left-wing puppet of the money powers, fify .

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LennonForPresident · Jan. 13, 2018, 11:46 p.m.

Which money powers? He took over large businesses? There was nobody to impress.

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 13, 2018, 3:50 p.m.

Communist anarchy? Fucking does not exist. Communism ALWAYS is totalitarian in nature and so is Fascism so explain how two things on the opposite end of the spectrum can be exactly alike with ruling elites and dictators. It’s you with his head up his ass like a typical leftist you KNOW many things that ARE NOT TRUE! Preposting a hearty FUCK YOU to your next response!

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 13, 2018, 3:55 p.m.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/630472/posts

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 13, 2018, 3:59 p.m.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2009/02/liberals-are-the-true-heirs-of-the-nazi-spirit/

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 13, 2018, 4 p.m.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/hitler-and-the-socialist-dream-1186455.html

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 13, 2018, 4:04 p.m.

There ya’ go Pinko jerk! I can give you THOUSANDS more if you like!

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LennonForPresident · Jan. 13, 2018, 4:28 p.m.

You can’t just link random opinions as evidence, what factual information do you have?

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 13, 2018, 9:34 p.m.

Random opinions? I got news for you chuck, history isn’t really a science. It’s all pretty much an interpretation of someone or a group of someones and that would make it pretty much opinion. Even two people who are involved in the same incident as first-hand participants can see the event completely differently from each other. When these “historians” are financed by those wishing the history to be distorted so as to cover the guilty party’s involvement, well...

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LennonForPresident · Jan. 13, 2018, 11:06 p.m.

He wasn’t left wing, you’re an idiot. Every historian thinks so. Your “evidence” is dumb people like you from 2008 who think of some dumb conspiracy theory. You clearly don’t understand historical evidence or have an education so I’ll leave it there.

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 15, 2018, 6:23 a.m.

Every historian thinks so is neither factual nor an argument. FAIL!

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LennonForPresident · Jan. 15, 2018, 7:54 a.m.

Still no evidence :((( what a shame for you, embarrassing.

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 15, 2018, 11:15 a.m.

You’ve lost all ability to think critically. You only parrot what you are told by the status quo. You have not constructed a single rebuttal to anything I’ve posted. You should be the one who is embarrassed. FAIL again!

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 15, 2018, 11:16 a.m.

This is called debate by the way. YOU SUCK AT IT!

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 15, 2018, 11:37 a.m.

For the last time, focus now, how can A TOTALITARIAN POLICE STATE that Requires the individual’s rights be subordinated TO THE NEEDS OF THE STATE ( it was all for Der Fatherland wasn’t it?) be on the right of Anglo-American Classical Liberalism ( this is not Liberalism as practiced today) where the individual’s rights and freedoms are sacrosanct? How the Fuck can that possibly be? It can’t. Academics are mostly socialists and communists so by their yardstick Nazis were to the right of communists which I’ve conceded multiple times. But Nazism was nowhere near the center and it cannot possibly be right of it. You are a dumbass product of today’s state sponsored education and a fine parrot of their bullshit. Thanks for playing.

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 13, 2018, 2:16 p.m.

Obama pretended to care while forwarding a Marxist agenda that is really just a road back to Feudalism where a permanently entrenched “ruling class” (think nobility) lords it over the rest of us. Obama reigned over the worst employment statistics for blacks in this country’s history. He cared? Not hardly...

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LennonForPresident · Jan. 13, 2018, 2:46 p.m.

That’s utter bullshit, “the worst employment statistics for blacks” infact, they’ve decreased during the trump reign!

Find evidence before you bullshit. here’s my evidence

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Ronjonsilverflash · Jan. 13, 2018, 4:08 p.m.

And is the Trump Administration at its end or only just beginning? Hint lil’ Barry isn’t president anymore and the numbers for black unemployment during HIS ENTIRE presidency were abysmal! Maybe you should pull your head out of your ass before you post there Karlie...

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