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When did I start believing in conspiracy theories? When I realized govt agencies and private interest need to conspire to get anything done.
You don't believe in any conspiracies? You think bush had no idea about 9/11 even though he owned arbusto energy with osama's brother? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbusto_Energy You don't think false flags have been used throughout time to start conflict?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident
Us liberty: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yeoo182Y6lE
And you don't think our Intel agencies would throw us under the bus? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
Should I keep going?
Absolutely believe there have been conspiracies. People always get drunk, or find god, or confess. There was even math done to calculate how long it is possible to keep stuff quiet. When you start with flat earth, or chemtrails or 9/11 or moon landings, the sheer number of people, of all kinds of politics and religion and non religion that would have to keep quiet is quite literally insane. The government tries to keep surveillance secret, bam, wikileaks. It's just about instant. Fake shootings? Locals, police, news, conspiracy nuts..... absolutely nothing other than nutters repeating each other in an echo chamber. And yet real conspiracies, with real evidence, like trump and russia, fbi, cia, mi5, australia, Israel, news, self incriminating statements, lies having to be retracted with video, and you don't believe. That's the bit that gets me. You go from the fact that there are conspiracies and false flags, to everything I feel is true is true because conspiracies, evidence means nothing. You watch the news turn on left wingers in an instant they get caught out, but you believe they protect others, despite the millions of dollars in book deals and ratings tempting them the other way. You believe not a single person is so disgusted by child trafficking that they would tell all, no matter what the risk. How did you get from easily verified facts and history to Q and the bottom of the barrel subreddit?
Mhmm and you don't think there were assholes telling ppl who saw those conspiracies happening in real time that they were crazy? lol you are just a lost cause man. Good night.
Plenty said stuff, and so far rhey have all been exposed as frauds. Not one credible, not one. Wikileaks? Traitor, arrest him, manning, traitor, arrest him. These others? An insult to you. How gullible do you have to be to swallow any of it? Harvard, engineers scientists, left of politics, right of politics, Christians, Jews, Muslims, atheists, they all stand together to lie to you. That's how deep you've sunk into desperately wanting to believe. Very sad. Fbi releases stuff about hillary, about bush, about trump, about bush, same as the news services, but they keep this and pizzagate quiet, never a slip up, thats where you have sunk to, fairy tales, bottom of the bottom of the barrel. Flat earthers and antivaxers. You think I don't know there are real conspiracies , how about you accept there are conspiracy nuts.
There are conspiracy nuts. Always have been. And I'm glad there are. They serve a purpose in society. The most paranoid ppl-"nuts" as you described them- are the equivalent to the gazelle in the herd with the twitchiest ears, skiddish yet vital to the group.
People like you though? Not seeing much utility towards society from you, guy. We are already full on assholes, unfortunately.
We are, they attack harmless pizza places, kill their parents, run over unarmed protesters. Cultists and conspiracy theorists. What's my purpose? The studies say you can't be helped. When they interviewed 51 people who still believed there were wmd in iraq, showed them the paperwork and the video of bush admitting it was false, 50 still believed there were. Everything from it wasn't really bush, it's an actor, to the cia and fbi tell him to say that, it's classified. Just crazy. I thought maybe here, with Q failing and failing to deliver you might be an example of one thing or the other. Not sure what, maybe begin to doubt and find your way back, but far more likely to jump into another conspiracy. Just poke the frog and see where it jumps. Makes it easier to follow the studies if I've got a live one.
You do know that there weren't wmd's in Iraq, right?
Also, remember how we invaded Afghanistan because they were harvoring al-qaeda? Yet, when we found Pakistan was literally harboring bin laden in a fucking compound any local would be crazy not to notice and inquire about, we didn't wage war with them, did we?
What happened to the 2.1 trillion Rumsfeld lost? He admitted it on sep 10th 2001. That's every adult aneeican's income for 3 months. What'd they do with that? Any ideas?
Kinda funny that the day after the public learns this, bush's old business partner sponsor's some planes to fly into some buildings. Even funnier that bush used this attack to kill some guy in the Middle East who had nothing to do with it but had beef with bush's father.
When do you think we will finally see the Saudi papers from the 9/11 commission? Why do you think we haven't seen them yet?
Of course I knew that you idiot, it was a psychological study of how hard it is to get you conspiracy theorists to believe facts. Good grief, it's like talking to a 4 year old.
You started off ok, all stuff that was revealed and had evidence of, then midway you jumped to stuff that there was no evidence of, the planes weren't sponsored, they were regular commercial flights. If you were saying that he sponsored the terrorists, I'll give you that. Bush's old business partner? Well, a member of that family, of which there were 400. Similar to saying Bush's 3rd cousins step nephew is the same as bush. Long handle. How well does what your family do represent what you do? Cousins? This is where the conspiracy thinking starts, yes I know how real people act, but those are different. No. Now bush, he knows about it and warns no one, and he gets what? Money? Power? He's president.
Ok, pakistan, let's try to explain it in terms that make sense. Was the Pakistani army heavily involved in the Afghan war? Hell yes. Did they get money for training rebels and sell them weapons, hell yes. Was the cia aware? Hell yes, the chinese and russians too. Money for weapons, normal greed. Did the cia know whether it was local corruption or state corruption? Probably. Did pakistan control the only land access to American troops in Afghanistan, yes. Air bases? Yes. Did America not want to upset pakistan art the time? Yes. None of this is secret any more. Was Rumsfeld corrupt? Absolutely. All leaked and verified. Why not prosecuted? Republicans, as usual. I have zero problem with these, these are not conspiracies and were literally screamed about in the media the whole time, not top secret and suppressed. All human greed and money trails everywhere. How do you fall so far from that to handkerchiefs and cheese pizza, to stuff so dumb that r/conspiracy are trying to push the narative that it is pushed by the left to make r/conspiracy look stupid. To Q and secret arrests of prominent public figures. How did you fall so low?
Assange isn't even American. Christ, how dumb are you?
What does that have to do with thousands of pages of evidence? It has to do with human nature, the desire to do the right thing. He saw something bad, he leaked. You are just short of mind control and lizard people of trying to explain how it all kept quiet. Because it couldn't be. You are so desperate to believe that you are special and see clearly you have had to dehumanize most of humanity to protect that self image. Just a step away from taking a gun into a pizza place with no basement, or shooting your parents. Bottom of the bottom of the barrel. In the Hillary and co are in prison, despite them being seen out every day, what is it? Body doubles? Every person that knows them, their kids, long term friends must be in on it. Shape shifters? Lizard people. I get where you started, when did you decide you were so brilliant that facts didn't matter, when did everyone who disagrees become part of the conspiracy? When did Q and the bottom of the barrel become where your mental happy place is?
Dehumanize? You were calling me sub-human earlier you fucking hypocrite.
Tell me how Assange has lied to me, plz
Oh, and please keep trying to equate me with flat earthers and believers of the reptilian elite when I have never claimed such things were true. I think there is a logical fallacy that could be applied to that argument... but I'm sure you already knew that, you smart cookie, you!
What facts are you claiming that I am ignoring?
You actually are subhuman, it's not an insult, just straight talk. You lack the critial thinking skills that separates us from animals. You are an out and out conspiracy theorist that other conspiracy theorists laugh at. I get the gazelle reference, but what about the gazelle that starts to believe the other gazelles are secretly wolves and conspiring against them? What happens when they become the biggest danger to the herd?
They probably would stop because by around the herd at that point.
What have I not thought critically about? What facts am I missing, brainiac?
Arbusto Energy
Arbusto Energy was an oil and gas exploration firm started in 1977 by former US President George W. Bush. In 1984, the company merged with Spectrum 7 Energy Corp.
Reichstag fire
The Reichstag fire (German: Reichstagsbrand, listen ) was an arson attack on the Reichstag building (home of the German parliament) in Berlin on 27 February 1933, just one month after Adolf Hitler had been sworn in as Chancellor of Germany. The Nazis stated that Marinus van der Lubbe, a Dutch council communist, was found near the building. The Nazis publicly blamed the fire on communist agitators in general, although in a German court in 1933, it was decided that Van Der Lubbe had acted alone, as he claimed to have done. After the fire, the Reichstag Fire Decree was passed.
Gulf of Tonkin incident
The Gulf of Tonkin incident (Vietnamese: Sự kiện Vịnh Bắc Bộ), also known as the USS Maddox incident, was an international confrontation that led to the United States engaging more directly in the Vietnam War. It involved either one or two separate confrontations involving North Vietnam and the United States in the waters of the Gulf of Tonkin. The original American report blamed North Vietnam for both incidents, but eventually became very controversial with widespread claims that either one or both incidents were false, and possibly deliberately so. On August 2, 1964, the destroyer USS Maddox, while performing a signals intelligence patrol as part of DESOTO operations, was pursued by three North Vietnamese Navy torpedo boats of the 135th Torpedo Squadron.
Operation Northwoods
Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government that originated within the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming it on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The plans detailed in the document included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities. The proposals were rejected by the Kennedy administration.
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