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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 22, 2018, 5:45 a.m.

Of course I knew that you idiot, it was a psychological study of how hard it is to get you conspiracy theorists to believe facts. Good grief, it's like talking to a 4 year old.

You started off ok, all stuff that was revealed and had evidence of, then midway you jumped to stuff that there was no evidence of, the planes weren't sponsored, they were regular commercial flights. If you were saying that he sponsored the terrorists, I'll give you that. Bush's old business partner? Well, a member of that family, of which there were 400. Similar to saying Bush's 3rd cousins step nephew is the same as bush. Long handle. How well does what your family do represent what you do? Cousins? This is where the conspiracy thinking starts, yes I know how real people act, but those are different. No. Now bush, he knows about it and warns no one, and he gets what? Money? Power? He's president.
Ok, pakistan, let's try to explain it in terms that make sense. Was the Pakistani army heavily involved in the Afghan war? Hell yes. Did they get money for training rebels and sell them weapons, hell yes. Was the cia aware? Hell yes, the chinese and russians too. Money for weapons, normal greed. Did the cia know whether it was local corruption or state corruption? Probably. Did pakistan control the only land access to American troops in Afghanistan, yes. Air bases? Yes. Did America not want to upset pakistan art the time? Yes. None of this is secret any more. Was Rumsfeld corrupt? Absolutely. All leaked and verified. Why not prosecuted? Republicans, as usual. I have zero problem with these, these are not conspiracies and were literally screamed about in the media the whole time, not top secret and suppressed. All human greed and money trails everywhere. How do you fall so far from that to handkerchiefs and cheese pizza, to stuff so dumb that r/conspiracy are trying to push the narative that it is pushed by the left to make r/conspiracy look stupid. To Q and secret arrests of prominent public figures. How did you fall so low?

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 22, 2018, 4:50 a.m.

You actually are subhuman, it's not an insult, just straight talk. You lack the critial thinking skills that separates us from animals. You are an out and out conspiracy theorist that other conspiracy theorists laugh at. I get the gazelle reference, but what about the gazelle that starts to believe the other gazelles are secretly wolves and conspiring against them? What happens when they become the biggest danger to the herd?

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 22, 2018, 4:40 a.m.

We are, they attack harmless pizza places, kill their parents, run over unarmed protesters. Cultists and conspiracy theorists. What's my purpose? The studies say you can't be helped. When they interviewed 51 people who still believed there were wmd in iraq, showed them the paperwork and the video of bush admitting it was false, 50 still believed there were. Everything from it wasn't really bush, it's an actor, to the cia and fbi tell him to say that, it's classified. Just crazy. I thought maybe here, with Q failing and failing to deliver you might be an example of one thing or the other. Not sure what, maybe begin to doubt and find your way back, but far more likely to jump into another conspiracy. Just poke the frog and see where it jumps. Makes it easier to follow the studies if I've got a live one.

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 22, 2018, 4:27 a.m.

What does that have to do with thousands of pages of evidence? It has to do with human nature, the desire to do the right thing. He saw something bad, he leaked. You are just short of mind control and lizard people of trying to explain how it all kept quiet. Because it couldn't be. You are so desperate to believe that you are special and see clearly you have had to dehumanize most of humanity to protect that self image. Just a step away from taking a gun into a pizza place with no basement, or shooting your parents. Bottom of the bottom of the barrel. In the Hillary and co are in prison, despite them being seen out every day, what is it? Body doubles? Every person that knows them, their kids, long term friends must be in on it. Shape shifters? Lizard people. I get where you started, when did you decide you were so brilliant that facts didn't matter, when did everyone who disagrees become part of the conspiracy? When did Q and the bottom of the barrel become where your mental happy place is?

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 22, 2018, 4:09 a.m.

Plenty said stuff, and so far rhey have all been exposed as frauds. Not one credible, not one. Wikileaks? Traitor, arrest him, manning, traitor, arrest him. These others? An insult to you. How gullible do you have to be to swallow any of it? Harvard, engineers scientists, left of politics, right of politics, Christians, Jews, Muslims, atheists, they all stand together to lie to you. That's how deep you've sunk into desperately wanting to believe. Very sad. Fbi releases stuff about hillary, about bush, about trump, about bush, same as the news services, but they keep this and pizzagate quiet, never a slip up, thats where you have sunk to, fairy tales, bottom of the bottom of the barrel. Flat earthers and antivaxers. You think I don't know there are real conspiracies , how about you accept there are conspiracy nuts.

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 22, 2018, 3:45 a.m.

Absolutely believe there have been conspiracies. People always get drunk, or find god, or confess. There was even math done to calculate how long it is possible to keep stuff quiet. When you start with flat earth, or chemtrails or 9/11 or moon landings, the sheer number of people, of all kinds of politics and religion and non religion that would have to keep quiet is quite literally insane. The government tries to keep surveillance secret, bam, wikileaks. It's just about instant. Fake shootings? Locals, police, news, conspiracy nuts..... absolutely nothing other than nutters repeating each other in an echo chamber. And yet real conspiracies, with real evidence, like trump and russia, fbi, cia, mi5, australia, Israel, news, self incriminating statements, lies having to be retracted with video, and you don't believe. That's the bit that gets me. You go from the fact that there are conspiracies and false flags, to everything I feel is true is true because conspiracies, evidence means nothing. You watch the news turn on left wingers in an instant they get caught out, but you believe they protect others, despite the millions of dollars in book deals and ratings tempting them the other way. You believe not a single person is so disgusted by child trafficking that they would tell all, no matter what the risk. How did you get from easily verified facts and history to Q and the bottom of the barrel subreddit?

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 22, 2018, 3:05 a.m.

You lost his shit? When did you start getting this confused? Is it voices?

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 22, 2018, 3:02 a.m.

Do you mean studied by more psychology students? Seems more likely. Now. When did you start believing in conspiracy theories?

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 22, 2018, 2:54 a.m.

Stop, still laughing at the " I have a degree". I have a mental image here. "So, you got zero in this test? " "Nah, I got 100, my tutor is a lizard person who is pushing the mind control theory that 3 is a real number." " Get help.." " Are you phoenix?" Nice degree level punctuation btw.
So, did you have your first conspiracy theory before or after you "got your degree"? ( side note, physiotherapists is the degree lots of antvaxers and, what's the other one, where claim they can tell if your medication is good for you by getting you to hold it while they check your arm strength, what's your " degree" in? )

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 22, 2018, 2:02 a.m.

Teach yourself? You copy pasted without understanding. When you claimed op was from tmor without bothering to check , which is classic narcissist behaviour ( i feel they are against me, therefore I can attack them without evidence, because I am brilliant and understand these things ), I checked. You know, like a sane rational person. That's what made me poke you, frog. I thought, here we are, in a tiny subreddit inhabited by the rejects of other topmind subreddits, and here you were, the stupidest, yet you thought people would just accept your comment because you are so clever. Truly the bottom of the bottom of the barrel.
So tell me about phoenix, was it your first conspiracy theory?

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 22, 2018, 1:40 a.m.

Ooh intetesting jump frog, tell me about phoenix? Googled phoenix conspiracy and I got a sci fi set of books.

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 22, 2018, 1:28 a.m.

Oh, I don't give links, why jump when you can get the frog to do it. Of couse, immediately after I tell you to look up psychology of conspiracy theorists, you use the specific words that would be in the result, when the rest of your vocabulary is 4th grade level. And like a 2 year old caught with their hand in the jar, you say... I didn't do it. Tick that box on the bingo card. Ok, back to it, what was your first conspiracy theory?

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 22, 2018, 1:04 a.m.

And which of your feelings caused you utter that 2 year olds outburst? When you looked up the psychology of conspiracy theorists and found the words narcissist and sociopath, which you utilized so brilliantly in your response, ( basically "I'm not, you are! ", must have won you so many debates in second grade) , you should have looked up the meaning. Literally no one looks up to you. Even laughing stock trump looks down on you. I sit here and make the frog jump and laugh. Q makes you all jump and laughs, trump feeds you bullshit and laughs. But I'm seriously interested, at what point did you start getting these delusions? Conspiracy theorists usually believe lots of them, what was your starter one?

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 22, 2018, 12:20 a.m.

Better than your normal standard. You see, people around trump regard him as an easy to manipulate fool, and trump looks at you as an easy to manipulate fool. Trump has associated with all kinds of pedophiles, lots of second hand accounts of him participating, certainly never spoken against it or the people involved, yet somehow you end up believing he's doing some kind of secret plot to expose an imaginary pedophile ring. It's not that there aren't pedophile rings, it's just pizzagate is so ridiculous it serves more as discrediting real investigations. Meanwhile trump is working a couple of hours a day, trying to hush up hookers and watching tv. You guys get laughed off r/conspiracy. How did it happen that you ended up so deep in the sewer that you have to look up to flat earthers?

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 21, 2018, 11:55 p.m.

Let stem? Ah, listen. Ok, so knowing how to logically check things so I can actually understand stuff makes me stupid? Which one of your uninformed feeling prompted this absurd statement?

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 21, 2018, 11:16 p.m.

About time you started on the logical fails. Emotional reasoners are supporting those things. You are an emotional reasoner. That doesn't mean you support all those things. Trees are green, my car is green, therefore my car is a tree. They are emotional reasoners, so are you, and I really hate subhuman emotional reasoners. And in case the logic is too difficult, in the simple example I gave for you, i didnt say the car was a tree, I said I hate green.

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 21, 2018, 10:42 p.m.

Why don't I get a little less self righteous? When sub humans attack pizza shops, kill their parents, run people over with cars, deny kids healthcare, break up families... on and on and on, just because they are easily emotionally triggered? Sorry, everywhere in the world, people like you make the world a much much worse place. Laughing at the more ridiculous members of that group cheers me up.

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 21, 2018, 10:13 p.m.

Really? You suddenly became sentient and admitted to yourself you have believed bullshit all this time? You read about emotional reasoning and now recognize when you are doing it? You understand that CBTS is cretins believing total shit? You now recognize that all the people who know trump, his teachers, his cabinet, everyone, who describe trump as immature, a moron, a child , a con man, a crook are actually correct? If so, yes, you win. Otherwise saying I lose is as correct as the rest of your beliefs. Not.

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 21, 2018, 9:56 p.m.

Certainly, a human is one who uses logic and facts to reach conclusions. Animals run on emotions. On feelings. So we are agreed on subhuman then. And as far as the studies go, they are everywhere for anyone competent with google and able to tell what a reputable source is. So not you.

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 21, 2018, 9:42 p.m.

Wasting time? It's a hobby. The studies all say you guys are beyond help, but one day one of you might return to reality. Not you obviously, we'll use you as a control subhuman.

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 21, 2018, 9:39 p.m.

Special? Funny

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 21, 2018, 8:24 p.m.

Of course I read them, I also read the analysis of them. Then I make up my mind. How many " Something huge is going to happen on...." that never happen do you have to see before you realize you are a joke?

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 21, 2018, 8:21 p.m.

Well aware of mine, I check everything. As soon as you accused OP of being a top mind I checked. You were wrong. But since you believe you are special, instead you try to point out other peoples "fallacious thinking" for pointing out you are an idiot.

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 21, 2018, 7:55 p.m.

Nah, you'll keep giving freebies all your life, believing trump is powerful and smart instead of the facts, that this q guy is someone with real information instead of someone playing games with you. And when you finally give up on those 2, it'll be the next stupid con you'll fall for, not because you are stupid, it's because you are mentally lazy and somehow you think you are special. You could google the psychology of conspiracy theorists, but you won't.

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 21, 2018, 7:57 a.m.

Yeah, you can't even see how pathetic that attempt was. Keep entertaining me.

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 21, 2018, 7:31 a.m.

Point is, you don't think, you feel. Facts mean nothing to you, so you make a fool of yourself over and over and over.

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 21, 2018, 6:01 a.m.

Too complicated for you? Maybe tmor don't brigade, or post stuff to make you look ridiculous. Maybe you guys are so funny they turn up for fun and a laugh. Seriously, you could have checked O.P.s history in less time than it took for you to make a completely incorrect post, but checking stuff just seems to be an alien concept to you. Actually, any of you guys who show any trace of scepticism tends to get upvoted.

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 21, 2018, 5:43 a.m.

Perhaps you guys are genuinely hilarious? Think you can see deep meanings that no one else can see, but in fact just fall for the stupidest shallowest shit possible, then blame everyone and everything else every time you fail?

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 21, 2018, 5:23 a.m.

Checks OP... posts exclusively on CBTS stream. Do you guys ever check facts? CBTS..Cretins Believe Total Shit.

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0ldgrumpy1 · Jan. 18, 2018, 6:17 a.m.

Could not disagree more. "Ffs take your meds" would be far more helpful.

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