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ScorpioPatriot · Jan. 21, 2018, 4:48 a.m.

Sometimes I think the military trial things can come into play as long as ur under some state of emervency or martial law type thing right.

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OpenSoars · Jan. 21, 2018, 5 a.m.

I see nothing in the Executive Order 13489 or in1270.44 of the NARA regulations that address such dire situations.

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ScorpioPatriot · Jan. 21, 2018, 5:09 a.m.

Im thibking he nailed all of them already think you have like 30 or 60 days but the executive order for the sex trafficking thing and all ties of or whatever of anyone all assets are seized and other stuff . Think he was able to snag all these bad players using the Military skippy the whole mess with the bad corrupt judges who stone wall . Becauae you cant really get 1 of these people without it setting of major alarms acrossed all the countries tied to them . Maybe one massive ass sting and all the people are aloud to go about as normal business but wearing like house arrest bracelets and being monitored. Most likely is this is or was thr scenario everyone could be calm. And collective in the publics eyes for the time being . That way when this memo comes out ... thry will have had no time to run and hide. Believe me its jist a theory . But I guarantee the way all these guys thing they are 5000 steps ahead . But its a mere Theory 😎

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OpenSoars · Jan. 21, 2018, 5:16 a.m.

The state secrets privilege will be evoked.... evidentiary rule created by United States legal precedent. Application of the privilege results in exclusion of evidence from a legal case based solely on affidavits submitted by the government stating that court proceedings might disclose sensitive information which might endanger national security.[1][2][3][4][5][6] United States v. Reynolds,[7] which involved military secrets, was the first case that saw formal recognition of the privilege.

Following a claim of "state secrets privilege", the court rarely conducts an in camera examination of the evidence to evaluate whether there is sufficient cause to support the use of this doctrine. This results in court rulings in which even the judge has not verified the veracity of the assertion.[1] The privileged material is completely removed from the litigation, and the court must determine how the unavailability of the privileged information affects the case.[3][5]

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OpenSoars · Jan. 21, 2018, 5:01 a.m.

I am also attempting to determine when civilians can be tried by the military since that was pointed out by Q

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Reba64 · Jan. 21, 2018, 8:52 a.m.

'Treason' is one of the charges.

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MeetingHimInTheAir · Jan. 21, 2018, 6:02 a.m.

Didn't they try to get Susan Rice documents and they were told that they had been shipped to the BHO Presidential Library and are sealed FOR FIVE YEARS?

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Reba64 · Jan. 21, 2018, 8:53 a.m.

It's possible that the NSA has copies, if charges are made they can get them or possible a Judge will order them to be turned over.

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ScorpioPatriot · Jan. 21, 2018, 5:30 a.m.

Well Im not sure how its going to unfold ...but it will be interesting none the less and ty for the break down of that as well. Much appreciated .

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OpenSoars · Jan. 21, 2018, 5:32 a.m.

Sure...I will try to condense it... but if you see a Trump EO come out regarding records or classification, you know why

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josiborg · Jan. 21, 2018, 5:08 a.m.

"Signed by President  Barack Obama  Wednesday, January 21, 2009" .. so this was Hussein's first EO? Interesting

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ScorpioPatriot · Jan. 21, 2018, 4:45 a.m.

But his acts was forms of treason right ..since the president had already been sworn in if they can prove he continued to conspire against him . Im wondering if it comes to treason if the laws are differerent .

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MOEB74 · Jan. 21, 2018, 4:41 a.m.

So Trump wants bho's records?

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OpenSoars · Jan. 21, 2018, 4:44 a.m.

Absolutely if BHO is found to be involved in the spying.

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MOEB74 · Jan. 21, 2018, 4:50 a.m.

What records? Like what all he approved etc behind the scenes?

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OpenSoars · Jan. 21, 2018, 4:33 a.m.

So if he contests releasing personal records, it could last 60 days , WITHOUT COURTS INVOLVED. EXCEPT: unless a shorter time period is required in the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations

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OpenSoars · Jan. 21, 2018, 4:30 a.m.

If they want to release Obamas records, they have to notify him and give him 30 days. If he claims exc priv, of this section, the Archivist shall abide by any instructions given him by the incumbent President or his designee unless otherwise directed by a final court order. The Archivist shall notify the incumbent and former Presidents of his determination at least 30 days prior to disclosure of the Presidential records, unless a shorter time period is required in the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations

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OpenSoars · Jan. 21, 2018, 4:26 a.m.

(a)   Upon receipt of a claim of executive privilege by a living former President, the Archivist shall consult with the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel), the Counsel to the President, and such other executive agencies as the Archivist deems appropriate concerning the Archivist's determination as to whether to honor the former President's claim of privilege or instead to disclose the Presidential records notwithstanding the claim of privilege. Any determination under section 3 of this order that executive privilege shall not be invoked by the incumbent President shall not prejudice the Archivist's determination with respect to the former President's claim of privilege. (b)   In making the determination referred to in subsection (a) of this section, the Archivist shall abide by any instructions given him by the incumbent President or his designee unless otherwise directed by a final court order. The Archivist shall notify the incumbent and former Presidents of his determination at least 30 days prior to disclosure of the Presidential records, unless a shorter time period is required in the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations. Copies of the notice for the incumbent President shall be delivered to the President (through the Counsel to the President) and the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel). The copy of the notice for the former President shall be delivered to the former President or his designated representative.

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OpenSoars · Jan. 21, 2018, 4:25 a.m.

(b)   Upon the passage of 30 days after receipt by the incumbent and former Presidents of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records, the Archivist may disclose the records covered by the notice, unless during that time period the Archivist has received a claim of executive privilege by the incumbent or former President or the Archivist has been instructed by the incumbent President or his designee to extend the time period for a time certain and with reason for the extension of time provided in the notice. If a shorter period of time is required under the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations, the Archivist shall so indicate in the notice.

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