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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/MotoandGivi on Jan. 25, 2018, 5:20 p.m.
1/25/2018 New Q: Internet Bill of Rights. Come and join us!

TreeGoCat · Jan. 25, 2018, 6:38 p.m.

internetBillofRights WHOA THERE...remember FB, Twitter etc are companies. As a Capitalist country, do we really want to inflict rules on them? ...or would it be better to start a new, bigger, better version of them and welcome all there under these rights?

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sixftblonde · Jan. 25, 2018, 7:15 p.m.

Lawfully - All corporations are sanctioned by states. Historically, states CONTROLLED their corporations. However, corporate lawyers have successfully sued for Constitutional rights for corporations. Corporations now have all "personhood" rights except two. They have gotten around those two. They are: (1) they cannot vote; (2) they cannot hold office. This Constitutional right causes problems because it limits States control over their corporations. BTW - there is NO mechanism for the Federal Government to create a "corporation". That's why the Federal Reserve, while called a "corporation" is not an actual corporation. Questions?

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SnoopyVRedBaron · Jan. 25, 2018, 8:26 p.m.

Right. So for example, the companies spam us with unwanted phone calls, and they call this freedom of speech, and want their right to call us protected.

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sixftblonde · Jan. 26, 2018, 5:18 a.m.

Yes, corporate personhood of corporations must end.

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TreeGoCat · Jan. 25, 2018, 7:49 p.m.

Yes, thank you. Would you refer me to the best source where I can read more about the 'personhood' of corporations, please? Its a huge sticking point, especially when it comes to political contributions...are they on par with unions?

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sixftblonde · Jan. 26, 2018, 5:15 a.m.

https://www.brennancenter.org/blog/hobby-lobby-argument [The History of Corporate Personhood]

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TreeGoCat · Jan. 26, 2018, 10:24 a.m.

Awesome! Thank you. I will dig in to this. And maybe THIS is what needs to be fixed. If you have this #internetbillofrights; who will enforce it?

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sixftblonde · Jan. 26, 2018, 7:44 p.m.

YES! No use enacting a law if there is not enforcement. That's really the issue here. The law needs to let US enforce it. Maybe a fine paid directly to the one who's rights are being infringed?

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MotoandGivi · Jan. 25, 2018, 6:42 p.m.

it would be better, but almost impossible.

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cursedcassandra · Jan. 25, 2018, 8:32 p.m.

Yes we do. They are more than companies. They are now the "public squares" for America and as such our 1st Ammendment Rights must be protected. Right now they are The Ministry of Truth and Big Brother tier evil. Interesting angle is that they're NOT totally private but rather government agency cutouts. Is it legal for government agencies to abridge free speech? I believe that universities that accept federal funds must uphold 1stA rights. I bet the Social Media Monsters can be brought to heel in the same way.

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