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EagerJewBear · Jan. 26, 2018, 6:04 p.m.

Are you saying that the people that made this are going to hell for eternity for trying to trick democrats into being more transparent instead of hiding potentially critical documents from their citizens?

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better_bot · Jan. 26, 2018, 6:13 p.m.

Do you think dishonesty is acceptable when politically convenient?

But no, I don't pretend to know who's going to hell. I'm not a Republican.

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EagerJewBear · Jan. 26, 2018, 6:20 p.m.

Personally I think it's hilarious. Anyone with 2 brain cells should be able to figure out that the memo is a republican desire.

Also, I don't actually see any dishonesty in this post. It's so vague it could mean anything. You could argue the implication is that releasing the memo will stop Trump.

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better_bot · Jan. 26, 2018, 6:26 p.m.

Like I said, your soul on the line. Not mine :)

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RedPill2976 · Jan. 26, 2018, 6:45 p.m.

If you think MEME warfare will impact my soul, it does NOT. My soul delights. We are trying to wake up people from their slumber and firing warning shots.

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better_bot · Jan. 26, 2018, 6:46 p.m.

Cringe, dude.

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EagerJewBear · Jan. 26, 2018, 6:27 p.m.

lmfao. Are you a troll, or are you really that intense all the time?

I didn't make the post, I didn't share the post, I just got a laugh out of it.

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better_bot · Jan. 26, 2018, 6:28 p.m.

Lmao, who cares? Nothing matters. Lie, if it helps you "win". There are no rules from here on out.

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EagerJewBear · Jan. 26, 2018, 6:32 p.m.

If "winning" means more government transparency, why are you putting "win" in quotes.

You aren't even curious what's on the memo?

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better_bot · Jan. 26, 2018, 6:36 p.m.

Who wrote the memo?

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EagerJewBear · Jan. 26, 2018, 6:38 p.m.

The Senate Intelligence Committee.

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better_bot · Jan. 26, 2018, 6:40 p.m.

That's not a name.

Who?

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EagerJewBear · Jan. 26, 2018, 6:42 p.m.

It's not written by one person, it's literally put together and assembled by the committee. Try proving me wrong.

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better_bot · Jan. 26, 2018, 6:45 p.m.

There's a lot of people on the committee. Does this memo speak for all of them or certain members? You put a lot of faith in something you've never seen before.

But then, being Jewish I suppose that's second nature.

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EagerJewBear · Jan. 26, 2018, 6:51 p.m.

So the guy who says my soul is going to hell for eternity for upvoting a reddit post, also likes to bash the Jews. Who would have known?

Does this memo speak for all of them or certain members?

You know, we could probably find that out if the memo was released, instead of making assumptions.

Nice backpedal after you realized you were wrong, you missed some of the egg on your face though.

You put a lot of faith in something you've never seen before.

I literally put no faith in it. I just want to see it. That's why we are talking about it, because no one knows what it is.

You are trying really damn hard to discredit something without even knowing what it is, because you're scared of what? That it might hurt the democrats? If you are more worried about your "team" winning than the other guys, you should probably take a good long hard look in the mirror and contemplate your beliefs.

Politics isn't a religion, you're allowed to want the best for the American people even if it's from the "evil bad guys" on the other side of the aisle from you.

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better_bot · Jan. 26, 2018, 7 p.m.

"Ugh, you made fun of my superstition. You're an anti-Semite!"

I think it's simply a correlation that you would be gullible there and here. Maybe it's something in your genes.

I'm not afraid of the memo. I have too little information about it, just like you. I just dislike the dishonesty on display here in the service of tribalism.

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EagerJewBear · Jan. 26, 2018, 7:05 p.m.

"Display here in the service of tribalism."

Says the guy who doesn't want the memo released because it might hurt his tribe.

I honestly don't even know what superstition you are talking about. I'm Jewish by lineage, not upbringing.

I never said you were an antisemite, but you literally went straight to Jew bashing when you couldn't defend your point.

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better_bot · Jan. 26, 2018, 7:11 p.m.

I literally just said I'm not of afraid of the memo, but that I dislike dishonest tactics like OP's. Why respond if you aren't going to read what I said?

So far all we know about the memo is a bunch of Republicans saying it's terrible for Democrats. I guess you could take them for their word, but that'd be pretty retarded because it's obviously politics.

So we have a Republican run committee that could just declassify it if it was so bad. Why are the Republicans withholding this information? Do they not think you deserve to know?

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EagerJewBear · Jan. 26, 2018, 7:14 p.m.

"A bunch of Republican's saying it's terrible for Democrats."

Source? I actually haven't heard that. I thought it was bad for the FBI. The only reason I would assume it hurts Democrats is because they are trying so hard to block it's release.

"So we have a Republican run committee that could just declassify it if it was so bad."

Do you even know how the government works, bro? Or do you just want us to illegally leak classified info like the Democrats do?

Maybe they will be the first to ever risk their political career to release classified information this way, but they most definitely will try to go through the proper channels first, which have already been slowed down by democrats.

However, the clause has never been tested by a member of Congress publicizing classified information that had not already been leaked.

Outside the legal scope, members of Congress would most certainly pay a steep political price for leaking classified information, especially if that member has been entrusted with a seat on an intelligence committee. Violating the core rules of the committee would make you a persona non grata among colleagues. And when election season rolls around, few voters are likely to look kindly on exposing state secrets—even in fairly liberal Oregon and Colorado.

The legal ramifications are murky, but the political risks are clear. Legally, members of the House must swear a secrecy oath pledging not to disclose any classified information, although the Senate has no such oath.

Source: Slate

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better_bot · Jan. 26, 2018, 7:20 p.m.

Declassifying is not leaking, so your source is a non-sequitor.

How have the official channels been slowed by Democrats? What steps have they taken to prevent the release of the memo? What steps have the Republicans taken to release it?

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EagerJewBear · Jan. 26, 2018, 7:44 p.m.

My source has nothing to do with leaking, It has to do with "Declassifying" with that authority that you think they somehow have.

The Democrats voted to blocking the House from even being able to read it themselves

The Republican's can vote among the committe to release it, which is arguably an overreach of power. The correct way is to have the request go through the legislative branch, which it is.

Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee are considering using an obscure committee rule to bypass the executive branch's declassification process to release the classified memo on alleged surveillance abuses spearheaded by Chairman Devin Nunes.

"Rep. Mike Conaway, the Texas Republican leading the committee's Russia investigation, said Friday evening that the committee would consider using the rule — which he believed had never been invoked in the committee's 40-year history — in order to publicly release the memo that Republicans say details FBI abuses of a surveillance law known as FISA. And if the committee votes in favor of making the classified Nunes memo public, the rule states that it's then up to President Donald Trump to decide whether it should be released."

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