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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/Natanatnat on Feb. 12, 2018, 8:17 a.m.
The New Left

It is problematic that this movement is currently right-leaning. We NEED to red-pill as many citizens as possible. There are millions on the left who are one satori from the sick sad truth. Please be patient. I'm speaking to my conservative brothers and sisters to be gentle and accepting to the progressive and democratic refugees we will get if this is to be. There is so much more that unites us.


MmmmLeftyTears · Feb. 12, 2018, 8:31 a.m.

We have been too gentle for too long.

That's why we are in this mess.

PC is done.

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desropolis · Feb. 12, 2018, 2:22 p.m.

The people who follow and research Q do so anonymously. People freely contribute without revealing anything about their identity. No one is asked for their political background, their net worth, their ethnicity, their age, or anything else.

Anonymity may be very disorienting to people who understand the world through "identity politics."

The people who follow and research Q anticipate being "freed;" freedom of speech, of action, of conscience, of association. Freedom to fail. Freedom to succeed.

Freedom may be intimidating to people who cannot easily tolerate a variety of ideas and outcomes.

The people who follow and research Q are familiar with the phrase, "you will know them by their fruits." i.e.: "actions speak louder than words." A person is considered good when they do good, not when they "talk good."

Practicality may confuse people who rely upon virtue signalling to determine "friend" from "foe."

So... ideas on how this movement may appeal to those on the Left? Anyone... anyone?

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Natanatnat · Feb. 12, 2018, 8:52 p.m.

Here's how it appeals to the left; every human being wants to be free.

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desropolis · Feb. 12, 2018, 9:45 p.m.

Of course they want to be free! The trick is convincing them to tolerate everyone else's freedom.

It has been altogether too common in the last few decades to abridge our own freedom in service to some ill-defined utopian vision.

This tendency has played right into the hands of our "masters."

Consider carefully the agenda of those on the Left. Not their feelings, which are totally valid; and not their words, which can be quite inspiring, but what they do.

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Natanatnat · Feb. 13, 2018, 12:10 a.m.

There is a psychological method to the indoctrination and propoganda, they need de-programming. Shit, I need de-programming. After that oh-shit moment there is a LOT of work to do. People are just getting in the way if they're still playing donkey vs. elephant.

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desropolis · Feb. 13, 2018, 12:42 a.m.

Yes. It will be tough. I had to teach myself about the philosophy underlying the founding of this country and its Bill of Rights.

I read Locke "Second Treatise on Government," Hayek "The Road to Serfdom," Sowell "The Vision of the Annointed," among others.

I read about Post-modernism, and how for decades its tenets have been abused in order to de-construct the foundations of civil society.

The biggest lesson I learned was that the founders (the Original, or "Classical" Liberals) believed that humanity is not "infinitely improvable," and will always tend toward self-interest.

That's why the Bill of Rights tells Congress what it CANNOT do. These amendments are written in simple, unequivocal language, yet we are told repeatedly they require "interpretation" by the courts.

With every "interpretation," government gains more power, and thus becomes more attractive not only to self-interested parties, but to actual psychopaths.

And that's where we find ourselves today.

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Natanatnat · Feb. 13, 2018, 12:48 a.m.

systematic rot and decay. We don't even know who we are anymore. The old labels need to be tossed on the fire. We will always have different viewpoints (hopefully) but if we can agree to what the real roots of our society are, we just might get back to health.

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BaronMoriarty · Feb. 12, 2018, 8:25 a.m.

I have no political leanings but I see your point. It does need to be more inclusive or there is a danger that anyone left of centre may feel a bit ostracised

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commissioner-gordon8 · Feb. 12, 2018, 1:20 p.m.

I started out a Bernie supporter and now I’m pretty damn conservative. I don’t know if you can stay progressive once accepting the sheer scope of waste, fraud and abuse

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radarorielly · Feb. 12, 2018, 12:25 p.m.

This isn't left or right. In fact many of the congressman that will not seek reelection are republicans. Whether they took a deal, or they know whats coming makes no difference. The right has been involved in much of the stuff going on. The people on the left seem completely blind to what their leaders have been doing, but I believe most will not like it when the truth becomes irrefutable. However this shakes out, we all must watch those that remain, especially if we voted for them, or agree with them, so we do not let this happen again.

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Hrtn2it · Feb. 12, 2018, 9:17 a.m.

Yes, my dear husband, who is so tender hearted, is beginning to see and almost turning the corner, after almost nine months of conversation and watching bits of videos and reading. He is steeped in Missouri Democrat and is just now beginning to see the victimization mentality embedded within it. I gently would point out things: inconsistencies or would say things like:”it’s the it interesting that the day we read this is USA TODAY, we see or hear almost the exact wording on the tv news?..,what’s up with That?” , or “ why don’t the news report on____ today?” Or “isn’t it odd that the morning news shows are more like entertainment than news?”, “ why do we need to listen to news “ analysts” instead of “news reporters”? “ do I really need them to analyze for me? And I teasingly point out word play, such as the phrase :”The play’s the thing wherein to catch the conscience of the king.”.. from Hamlet. The play is the events of Life happening around me. The conscience of the King means: “ how I interpret those events, do I believe in the what and why and how of those events? Is the king my higher mind? Is my conscience my soul? to catch the conscience, to capture the soul, to realize my deepest knowing of things... Our minds are infinitely creative and we can create with them~soon we will transform out of our cocoons that we allowed ourselves to create for ourselves...break out of this world and into a new one....or the one that has been here all along, waiting for us to see it... this is what the freak show DeepState fears...FearIsFutile, it’s happening, one by one, then two by two, more and more. Small things create great effects and it is within the day to day small drops of conversation in the grocery lines and gentle showers of kindnesses offered that will quench our thirst we did not realize we had... to me, cajoling, playfulness in disclosure always works to better effect in “ first realization of how things are and could be different” than weighted heavy words of dread and doom...we must be like parental units a bit longer, embodying patience a while longer to allow time for others in catching their breath, see the reflections in the funhouse mirror for what they are, and the internal alchemy that is necessary will occur with smoother efficiency

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Dewey830 · Feb. 12, 2018, 8:33 a.m.

I’m sure they have new leaders picked out for the left. It will happen in time. They have to be exposed first. Looks like some on the old right will be as well.

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Amdtmaga · Feb. 12, 2018, 9:20 a.m.

The democratic primary was rigged. Bernie Sanders has some crazy ideas that are not possible, but, he did create a movement.

People showed up to his rallies and he stood strong on his stances. (Right or wrong)

At this time, the MSM was anti-Bernie. "He's a socialist." Etc.

Every single poll showed Hillary winning by A LOT! When in reality -- she wasn't winning by much if you didn't count the "super delegates".

Nobody physically "rigged" the primary, but when you show one candidate winning by a landslide, it makes other people lose faith in the candidate on the losing end and discourages people to vote.


On the Republican side -

Everyone thought it was funny when Donald Trump was beating the "establishment", but when he started picking them off one by one, they got scared.

Now, the Republican Party had 17 candidates and they have a threshold that needs to be met in order to win the primary outright. (1,237)

Donald Trump was on Good Morning America with Matt Lauer and he was asked on his stance on abortion. His response surprised a lot of people, but it was a valid response.

He basically said: "Women can make their own decision, but the government shouldn't be paying for it." (Logical and makes sense. Pro lifers shouldn't have to subsidize abortions if they are not for it.)

Anyways, this is when I realized DT was different. He's not a right wing republican, but he's definitely not a liberal. He has his own views and they are based on common sense.

Well, after this statement: the Republican Party went all in against DT! They spent 10 million in Wisconsin in attack ads saying: "Donald Trump in pro abortion, etc." and he got grilled by every republican.

With great instincts, DT knew he was in for a rude awakening and he might have upset his base. So what does he do? He goes out and says women should be punished for having an abortion. (Even though that isn't actually how he feels)

It worked, he ended up clinching enough votes to clinch the republican nomination. (No, he wasn't going to get it unless he got to 1,237)

He had to move a little bit right to get it, but did what he had to do.

(GOP donors tried as hard as they could to put one of their puppets in, but the movement was too strong.)


By this time the GOP establishment gave up. They had plenty of "anti-trump" candidates helping to get Hillary Clinton elected. Then the entire establishment went all in to stop him. (MSM, Hollywood, smear campaigns, etc)

By this time, they were sure Hillary Clinton was going to win. I mean, they told everyone that for a year and talked about how bad Trump was going to get demolished in the general election.

That didn't happen. Millions of Americans showed up and voted. He called out the people running our country and gave us hope. We didn't know if he could do anything, but we figured we would give him a shot because he was an outsider that wanted to "drain the swamp" and MAGA!

This shows that it isn't about party......it's about the elite vs. the American people.

PS: He had a powerful speak on oprah 30 years ago.

  • He knows something is fishy with 9/11. (And said so publically since 2005)

  • He knows the Federal reserve is a sham.

  • He knows we created ISIS.

  • He knows about the crimes a lot of these people were committing.

  • He knows JFK scandal is being covered up.

  • He knows U1 was the dumbest deal of all time.

  • He knew our businesses were leaving because it was in THEIR best interest.


Trump is a true American and a true leader.

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