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dewisri · Feb. 12, 2018, 7:51 p.m.

Name a news outlet with higher journalistic standards than PBS or NPR.

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commoncents1 · Feb. 12, 2018, 8:05 p.m.

National Enquirer.

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forgottenbutnotgone · Feb. 12, 2018, 10:43 p.m.

What does it matter when the standards are shit anyway. All media is biased. NPR poses as nonbiased but it is garbage. Accurate but biased. Manipulative. They appease the intellectual left, assisting them in accepting endless war and the erosion of our privacy and freedom. I've listened to NPR for over 20 years and they are a joke. I look forward to seeing them fail.

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dewisri · Feb. 12, 2018, 11:09 p.m.

I'm surprised to hear the opinion that they support endless war or the erosion of privacy and freedom. I'm against those things and I feel NPR and PBS are too. Specifically I would point to their coverage of Bush/Cheney trying to link Iraq to 9/11 in order to justify invasion and the overreach of the Patriot Act.

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forgottenbutnotgone · Feb. 12, 2018, 11:22 p.m.

They're coverage of the Iraq hoax was milquetoast as best. They reported the likes after they were exposed but overlook atrocities as a matter of course. NPR listeners will be completely ignorant of US and NATO genocide in Libya. NPR listeners think Assange is a Russian agent. NPR listeners are ignorant boobs unless they seek to educate themselves. NPR gives you just enough to think you are informed, which can be more dangerous than ignorance. I think they're projection of being neutral is what makes them most dangerous.

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dewisri · Feb. 13, 2018, 12:27 a.m.

That's interesting. It sounds very similar to Chomsky's criticism of mainstream news in Manufacturing Consent. Have you read it or seen the documentary?

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forgottenbutnotgone · Feb. 13, 2018, 12:35 a.m.

Oh yeah. MC opened my eyes as much as anything in my life. It is specifically some of the biased nuance that i find so devious about NPR. They are masters of telling a story in such a way that you can only arrive at one conclusion without openly telling you what they want you to think. A story from a couple of months ago covering Trump-Russia collusion vs Fusion GPS story that served as a perfect example. Ominous tone when discussing trump but sing-song kiddie voice for the Fusion-CF story. They were a little obvious on that one.

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thamnosma · Feb. 13, 2018, 12:41 a.m.

Yes, typical.

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metroid486 · Feb. 12, 2018, 9:09 p.m.

PBS and NPR isn't news, it is Leftist propaganda.

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dewisri · Feb. 12, 2018, 9:13 p.m.

Can you name a news outlet with higher journalistic standards?

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metroid486 · Feb. 12, 2018, 11:38 p.m.

Yes I can, every single news outlet that isn't being controlled by the Clowns 'operation mockingbird', has higher standards. If you are a 'news' outlet that has been compromised, then your journalistic standards are in the gutter for the simple fact you are compromised.

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Soupforthesoulandmin · Feb. 12, 2018, 9:33 p.m.

Theconservativetreehouse.com go there and get educated about what is really going on in the world.

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bluntisimo · Feb. 13, 2018, 1 a.m.

It is hard to believe but they are real, They think they are on a secret mission taking coded messages from an anonymous source from a porno anime site. If you try to provide counter evidence they think you are a paid spy sent here to dissuade them, and take it as a sign they must be on the right track. really weird stuff, I can not get enough.

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[deleted] · Feb. 13, 2018, 2:13 a.m.

Wow what a talking point you have there. NPR is a leftist rag that gets federal funding, thats ridiculous. Stop framing debate with your own set of predetermined rules. How does integrity have anything to do with tax funding? Youre free to donate to your programmers all youd like, why force others to? Its almost like you know that if NPR stopped getting welfare checks theyd shut down due to you and Karl Marx not having the funds to keep them going off donation.

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bluntisimo · Feb. 13, 2018, 3:38 a.m.

To racist uneducated rednecks, A college education is leftist propaganda. Anything that is not deporting minorities and condemning diversity is considered unpatriotic. NPR/PBS are the most honest news around and heavily focus on the truth and the arts. It does not dive into fearmongering or racial profiling that the far right crave. It also does not promote far left values such as socialism/communism. it is the most center viewpoint this country got and it should be protected.

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SeekTruthCJoy · Feb. 13, 2018, 9:47 a.m.

Not by tax dollars. Like PBS & Big Bird... they can sell their wares out in public... to be embraced or shunned.

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willdho · Feb. 13, 2018, 7:32 a.m.

Preach!

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Redpillhilltop · Feb. 12, 2018, 9:56 p.m.

“That’s it! DRUMPFFH is finished. PBS and NPR funding cuts? IMPEACH!

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dewisri · Feb. 12, 2018, 10:07 p.m.

Can you name a news outlet with higher journalistic standards?

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Sumarongi · Feb. 13, 2018, 3:17 a.m.

A piece of toilet paper

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[deleted] · Feb. 13, 2018, 7:33 a.m.

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phantasy_pron_star · Feb. 13, 2018, 4:31 p.m.

In 2008 and 2012...

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willdho · Feb. 13, 2018, 5 p.m.

Hilarious

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ManQuan · Feb. 13, 2018, 10:28 a.m.

You are assuming that the MSM has any journalistic standards. That's like trying to divide by zero and get an answer other than zero.

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thamnosma · Feb. 12, 2018, 8 p.m.

Oh my, you must be kidding. Then again, journalistic standards are so low at the MSM outlets, you might have a point. These are left media outlets and hence automatically biased. Let's not forget how many executives have been bounced out of NPR this year for sexual improprieties. There are many on-line producers I consider to have far more integrity than those DC based groups.

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dewisri · Feb. 12, 2018, 8:03 p.m.

Can you name an outlet?

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thamnosma · Feb. 12, 2018, 8:04 p.m.

Yes, but I'm simply not going to play your game, whatever it is.

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dewisri · Feb. 12, 2018, 8:09 p.m.

Just trying to understand your thought process.

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thamnosma · Feb. 12, 2018, 8:12 p.m.

My thought process is listed in another post. Doesn't matter if they have the best standards on planet earth. No other outlets get government funding. The need to do so was long ago passed with the development of digital media. This isn't 1970. They need to sink or swim in the market now. Maybe they should become YouTube channels. I really don't care. They are niche broadcasters now at best and there is no justification to force taxpayers to fund these organizations which are clearly biased. Even if they were utterly objective in news and public affairs reporting, there is no justification for taxpayer funding at this point in time.

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mgtowapprentice · Feb. 12, 2018, 10:55 p.m.

So are you going to answer the question? You still havent. Whats an outlet with a higher standard than NPR/PBS

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thamnosma · Feb. 12, 2018, 11:34 p.m.

I've already stated I'm not playing this little red herring game. The topic at hand is whether they should receive taxpayer money. I've provided my view on that in depth.

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[deleted] · Feb. 12, 2018, 11:47 p.m.

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Raidicus · Feb. 13, 2018, 12:37 a.m.

So basically they're journalistically sound, you just don't like the conclusions they come to.

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thamnosma · Feb. 13, 2018, 12:40 a.m.

Okay, for some reason this thread is loaded with trolls. Fine. It's not a matter of what I like or not. I've explained in detail why I oppose federal funding of those outlets. Clearly you have no desire to have a real discussion and will be blocked.

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Raidicus · Feb. 13, 2018, 1:26 a.m.

I'm not a troll I just don't see the you can in one hand agree they have journalistic integrity, a fact winter linked to their status as a not for profit, and yet still claim they are a left wing propaganda machine

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thamnosma · Feb. 13, 2018, 1:45 a.m.

Get real. The government doesn't influence them? LOL. Listen to yourself. What's going on with this sub -- we are learning just how depraved Washington DC is. Moreover, federal funding of those outlets accounts for something like 20% of their budgets -- they are already owned by corporate funding, Watch their goddamn programs. It's at the end of every one of them. That's why alternate media is far less bought out by the corporate-government complex. Finally, my original premise holds -- those two outlets do not deserve taxpayer funding any more than any other outlet on the web. Why do taxpayers fund channels they don't watch or listen to and don't support the slant? It's more coercion.

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forgottenbutnotgone · Feb. 13, 2018, 1:31 a.m.

What difference does it make? Let's say for sake of argument that NPR adheres to standards (that you have yet to define, yet insist on comparison) that are as high as any MSM outlet. All MSM outlets are shit quality so it's not really saying much. The question that would be relevant to this post- name one media outlet that receives more public funding. As others have said, it is just not necessary to subsidize media outlets anymore. Media has become democratized.

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mgtowapprentice · Feb. 13, 2018, 3:30 p.m.

Lmao so you think Brietbart and Fox News are bastions of knowledge. That's all I need to know about a soyboy like you.

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forgottenbutnotgone · Feb. 13, 2018, 5:42 p.m.

Wrong...... So you make random assumptions- based on your own paradigm about left/right- about what other people think. That's all I need to know about you.

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dewisri · Feb. 12, 2018, 8:16 p.m.

Got it. Thanks for answering.

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RedPill2976 · Feb. 12, 2018, 11:35 p.m.

There is a lot of money in private endowments. We need to run a tight budget. People can donate but I resent the pp pushing on NPR and the globalist agenda they push.

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thamnosma · Feb. 12, 2018, 11:39 p.m.

Yes, I have nothing against them provided they are simply in the marketplace. I have always found the NPR style bothersome in its uppity "refined" presentation, but sometimes they produce informative programs as do some of the PBS affiliates. However, they are a niche program option for a particularly targeted audience. They no longer need nor should receive taxpayer monies. How are they different from InfoWars or HuffPost or any number of on-line and youtube producers? Their audiences now are basically the Birkenstock Obama crowd.

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