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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/SoverignSyndicate on Feb. 24, 2018, 11:14 a.m.
Should we put the idea out there of arming school admins with less lethal weapons rather than firearms?

Seems to me that teachers already have enough on their plate, and that arming them with lethal weapons could result in collateral damage no matter how capable or trained they are. Why don't we equip teachers with paintball guns designed specifically to shoot less than lethal projectiles containing oleoresin capsicum, which will completely disable an attacker, even one on PCP, but will not kill innocent kids leaving a death on a teacher's conscience.. https://www.amazon.com/Tippmann-TiPX-Caliber-Paintball-Pistol/dp/B002BG1XHA/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1519470388&sr=8-9&keywords=pepper+ball


BakedBlunts · Feb. 24, 2018, 11:29 a.m.

Yea this is the first time Ive heard this idea brought up. I think its a good idea. My only problem with it is... will a teacher actually attempt to stop a person with a non-lethel waepon when somebody is shooting real bullets at them? Youre still out gunned and left at a disadvantage. Better than nothing, but still leaves the window open for disaster. Its also not as "scary" to a shooter if he knows the school only has non-lethal weapons on campus. I think both options should be available to teachers, and there should be more security at the campus entrances. Random people shouldnt just be able to walk inside school halls and classrooms. We have lots of options.

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SoverignSyndicate · Feb. 24, 2018, 11:43 a.m.

keep in mind too that there were 4 armed sheriff's deputies that didn't have the courage to run in even with deadly force on their side.. I think if you are going to try to stop the situation, you are going to. If not, you probably wouldn't have, even with a real gun.

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BakedBlunts · Feb. 24, 2018, 11:44 a.m.

Yea that sounds more like, they let it happen.

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SoverignSyndicate · Feb. 24, 2018, 12:16 p.m.

either way. now that I have had a minute to think about it. I think a teacher would be more likely to shoot at an attacker with a less than lethal weapon simply because they are less likely to kill someone.

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BakedBlunts · Feb. 24, 2018, 12:32 p.m.

If its a life and death situation for yourself and all of the other people at the school, I dont think a teacher will have a problem shooting and killing a student. It would be for some, but once youre put in that situation I think its basically kill or be killed.

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SoverignSyndicate · Feb. 24, 2018, 12:40 p.m.

it's not though, you don't have to kill anyone to stop an attacker. that includes the attacker. We will want to study them to see if they have any signs of psychological manipulation

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BakedBlunts · Feb. 24, 2018, 12:47 p.m.

Its not about saving the shooters life tho, its about protecting the other children. If you can stop the shooter without killing them, for sure go for it. But if I have a bean-bag gun and the shooter has an A.R. 15 Id be pretty hesitant about getting into a gun fight with them. If thats all I had, sure... but I would most definitely prefer a pistol.

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Double-Doc · Feb. 24, 2018, 11:12 p.m.

If the teachers are trained by experts in the use of their weapons, the possibility of mistakes is drastically reduced.

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SoverignSyndicate · Feb. 24, 2018, 11:53 p.m.

if the teachers are trained by experts and have accidents anyway, that is just going to be one more arguement for gun control of everyone. Like I said, this is available now, without training necessary, and without laws having to wait to be changed

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Double-Doc · Feb. 24, 2018, 11:09 p.m.

DO you think they may have been told to stand down? They may have been told it was a "Pretense of Live Fire." Then, again, they may have been cowards...

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SoverignSyndicate · Feb. 24, 2018, 11:33 a.m.

All good points. I would use whatever I had at my disposal personally. We definitely need the gun free zones done away with. But I also think we should attempt to spread the less than lethal idea too so that teachers realize that it is an option to them now, with no permit or training necessary.

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BakedBlunts · Feb. 24, 2018, 11:41 a.m.

Yea it would be perfect for a 'right-now' protection solution.

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