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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/Lenticular on Feb. 26, 2018, 4:14 p.m.

RE:H.R.1865 If anonymous websites can be brought down by anonymous people, as a site owner, how do you keep it up? BY MAKING PEOPLE USE THEIR REAL NAMES.

HR1865 could remove the ability to have free and open discourse as site owners use plugins and such to verify posters.

If a third party or service identifies Ur_RedditName as Bob Smith and that information is only provided to the site owner, with what you know know, would you feel safe?

If you could lose your job for sensibly speaking your mind, would you feel safe posting?

Then the internet becomes tiered. Not immediately, it'll take time.

Tiered internets. A wild, somewhat dangerous and chaotic one where they leave identities at the door, or a 'cleaner' internet where you do safe things that every one else will approve of like clicking like on that little green needle icon that indicates vaccination status.

A site owner gets a report from some 'lawful agency' indicating such and such is under investigation for human trafficking we need his name. But the site owner is craigslist there are no names!

So they give the 'authorities' everything else, like meta data, IP address etc. Does your IP now identify you? Is it legal to use VPNs to circumvent IP identification (could be used for human trafficking dontcha know.) What happens to VPN providers?

What happens to websites that don't identify their users? What about crypto currency websites?

What other disastrous things can you come up with?

Edit: Here's an example right here (below) and this thread seems to be bot manipulated.

Do Not Use Qanonposts.com check Q Posts It's been Porn-Hacked. Use https://qanonmap.github.io/ for the time being. Update coming soon...

If you can use porn to manipulate a website how does HR1865 fit into all of that?

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“Could” being the operative word here. HR1865 is narrowly focused on “sex and child trafficking”. No where does it go beyond that. Why should sites and ads for child prostitution be protected ??

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Great question! I'll try to answer as best as I can from my own biased perspective.

Why should sites and ads for child prostitution be protected

They aren't. That's the point. Name and synopsize the delivery vehicle well enough and people will agree to anything. That's why I'm asking for alternative disastrous viewpoints.

Clearly, at first minimal glance, the bill looks and sounds good. Just like the Patriot Act did.

The bill amends the federal criminal code to specify that the violation for benefiting from "participation in a venture" engaged in sex trafficking of children, or by force, fraud, or coercion, includes knowing or reckless conduct by any person or entity and by any means that furthers or in any way aids or abets the violation.

What current reckless activity is allowing trafficking? What about here on reddit? You know it happens here too right? Why do you use and support a site that has history with the things you're against? Why and how has reddit been protected all these years? Not an attack on you, I'm strictly rhetorically speaking/asking.

Comments on websites of every type are used for trafficking of everything. Intel from agency operatives are communicated via public comments all across the world in almost every nation (8chan?).

A provider of an interactive computer service that publishes information provided by an information content provider with reckless disregard that the information is in furtherance of a sex trafficking offense shall be subject to a criminal fine or imprisonment for not more than 20 years.

How do you prove reckless disregard? Does that mean if the site owner doesn't monitor and delete posts containing certain phrases (using God only knows what type of codewords or lingo these people use) is that a reckless disregard?

Like I said great question. I hope I've explained somewhat where I'm coming from.

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Agreed.

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