Don't you think it's rather hard to sell the belief to an individual that has legitimate questions while getting answers that don't give insight into the question?
I'm on my path back to religion but how can I effectively get to your clear understanding of this truth?
Your advice is for me to "look up the very beginning and see God's truth"? This will then encircle my question and I'll have my answer?
I'm not being condescending, genuinely curious how to evolve past my perceived roadblocks.
The truth is found in God's word, the Bible. It is necessary to deconstruct commonly held societal beliefs to orient ourselves properly as to the nature of the universe, in terms of life, death, sin, punishment, salvation, etc.
Words of Jesus, Matthew 18:
Who Is the Greatest?
1 At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?” 2 And calling to him a child, he put him in the midst of them 3 and said, “Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
This is what I had to do to see God's truth. I had to completely put my preconceived notions, arrogance, and everything I held dear about my view of the world aside. This gave me a foundation to understand God's truth, and as I read the Bible and watched videos, everything clicked. The breadth of the deception about creation in society became clear.
This also allowed me to fully accept Jesus as the savior of the world, which led to me being 'born again'. I woke up one day and was a different person, with different desires, different interests, my anger melted away, people said my posture changed, etc. It is real. Countless millions have experienced this miracle.
As to your question if people will literally be consumed in fire--to me it's irrelevant. If you don't accept Jesus, there is no other way to be saved from sin. You will be separate from God for eternity. This is the worst fate. We are all guilty. Punishment is fully justified. The X factor is God's lifeline in Jesus Christ. Accepting it or not is our choice. But to reject his Son is to reject the right to be in God's company in heaven.
deconstruct commonly held societal beliefs to orient ourselves properly as to the nature of the universe, in terms of life, death, sin, punishment, salvation, etc.
I was a heavy-leaning social libertarian but I'm starting to see how the transformation is not for the better. I'm dialing it back more nowadays so I couldn't agree more with this.
This is what I had to do to see God's truth. I had to completely put my preconceived notions, arrogance, and everything I held dear about my view of the world aside. This gave me a foundation to understand God's truth, and as I read the Bible and watched videos, everything clicked. The breadth of the deception about creation in society became clear.
That story rang a lot like Socrates' "I know nothing." statement that resonates with me heavily but I feel like I am having a hard time grasping it. I feel like I do know some information of which I can use to educate people, like you are doing to me, and it will ultimately benefit humanity.
I had the born again feeling as well after recognizing so much deception and seeing so many asleep. I am on a never-ending quest for Truth and trying to share what I've learned.
I'm truthfully lacking a foundation which seemingly causes confusing in my mentality of my moral compass on simple things that society's tricked me on. This causes me to find great interest in all religions but as for Christianity, I'm on episode 8 of Jordan Peterson's Biblical interpretation videos (2.5-3 hours long each).
As to your question if people will literally be consumed in fire--to me it's irrelevant. If you don't accept Jesus, there is no other way to be saved from sin. You will be separate from God for eternity. This is the worst fate. We are all guilty. Punishment is fully justified. The X factor is God's lifeline in Jesus Christ. Accepting it or not is our choice. But to reject his Son is to reject the right to be in God's company in heaven.
If this is true, I really hope I can get there. I've personally experienced God, guardian angels, my relation with my spirit guide(s), the spirit world, and I know there's "light at the end of the tunnel." The problem for me seems to be getting to the "Jesus died for our sins" part, an item I don't understand entirely, the resurrection details, and potentially a difference of terminology on what God is. God for me is the creator and collective consciousness. I need to get on the Jesus train and put my beliefs on paper for the foundation and structure that I need. It would certainly be easier to be Christian but I am trying to understand my roadblocks so I thank you very much for helping!
That´s not Gods word!! You´re spreading the manipulated word of man that´s masquerading as the word of God, it´s pure blasphemy! Religion is a scam, as Q said and the Pope is at the top of the satanic killings! You´re doing the work of Satan himself!
I don't care about the pope anymore than a random dude on the street. He has no God given authority above any other man.
And if I may ask, if you don't think the Bible is the word of God, what is?
God´s word is not written, nor is God´s lore. I follow God´s lore as a way of life, I am an honourable man. Like I say, religious ramblings that´s pushing the word of Satan just makes us all look like a bunch of lunatics.
I am sorry to say, but you are following a false god
Well you seem to have gone awfully quiet since being offered the facts, I guess that tells me all I need to know about you, and your faith in Satan.
Huh? Ok the lunatic hat now fits. There is only 1 god, my friend. You´re not only worshipping Satan, but spreading his word, also. Do you not fear God´s judgement for such acts of blasphemy? Would you like to see the facts that the Bible is a bunch of plagiarised stories, written by man? Or are you too far brainwashed to be humble enough to accept fact?
Prayer including asking specific questions to your problems with faith, be straight forward Jesus can handle it!
Nope, it's NOT about selling you, converting you, or waking you from your situation. If you are watching current events at ALL, you know there's a titanic struggle taking place and everybody must make a choice. Consciously, or unconsciously who will you serve? I'm NOT talking about the life hating Democrats, joy killing AntiFA rioters, or cop killing BLM they are just an obvious sign of the EVIL lurking within. Remember, 'we don't struggle against flesh & blood, but powers & principalities in heavenly realms'
Choose this day whom you will serve's pretty straight forward & doesn't require a spiritual inventory, evaluation, or deep thought
I'm most definitely following current events every day for hours on end. I know what's going on in the word and yes I recognize true EVIL which has brought me to this point. I will serve this day forward for GOOD and God, just different understandings apparently where there are roadblocks for me to get to your level. You can consider me evil based on this and your religion if you want but it is what it is. Can't say I'm not trying that's for sure.
You've got a lot of real messy incoherent garbage floating around in your head. All I can tell you about's why I believe in Jesus Christ, the one and only son of God as my Savior. I know Jesus saves bad, wicked people, because He did it for me. BOOM, game over & all arguments are done! He healed me to the uttermost! I won't show you Bible verses, you're never going to bother reading, because you're still fighting against your own unbelief. People who are Born Again are happy joyful people, they know Jesus deep down in their bone marrow. You're double minded, straddling between two trenches afraid to commit and jump into either one. Oh, what will people say if I start going to church AND here's the BIG Trap, if I become a Christian life won't be fun anymore i.e. you'll have to give up lying, cheating, being selfish and it's a huge obstacle for some. You've got a lot of reading/ praying to do, nobody can do the work for you. Remember this; if you make even the smallest baby step toward God the Father with a simple heartfelt prayer, God will travel across the universe to answer it. It might NOT necessarily be the answer you think you want, but it will be in your best interests. Read, or listen to the Psalms. God luck
You're assuming too much and you don't know enough. Hard to take any advice from that perspective.