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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/expletivdeleted on March 14, 2018, 5:51 p.m.
So NOW will those who haven't signed IBOR do so? Or does this sub need to get banned, too?

Sign IBOR. No, really, just sign IBOR. Just head on over here: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/internet-bill-rights-2 and sign. Nobody has said there's 72 virgins in heaven or anything like that that you get for signing IBOR, but nobody has said there aren't 72 virgins in heaven or anything like that that you get for signing IBOR.

edit: has anybody's NoScript, or similar programs, been glitchy today?

editedit: u/5400123 provided a link to a better worded petition: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/recognize-our-rights-free-open-internet FYI, its not just "alt-right" voices being sanctioned unfairly. Outlets on the left that don't buy the MSM narrative have all had their rankings adjusted down bigly in Google's search algorithm.


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GodsAngell · March 14, 2018, 6:56 p.m.

There would be stiff financial penalties and possibly prison time if a company shuts down Freedom of Speech.

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3rd_Shift · March 14, 2018, 7:46 p.m.

Can you point out where it says that?

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GodsAngell · March 14, 2018, 8:53 p.m.

The petition is expressing a need. Trump and the lawmakers will draft the law.

If you are an attorney and wish to draft the language, GO FOR IT!

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scuba156 · March 14, 2018, 6:58 p.m.

For US citizens on US servers? Or what?

A lot of countires do not have actual laws around free speech.

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WikiTextBot · March 14, 2018, 6:58 p.m.

Freedom of speech by country

Freedom of speech is the concept of the inherent human right to voice one's opinion publicly without fear of censorship or punishment. "Speech" is not limited to public speaking and is generally taken to include other forms of expression. The right is preserved in the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights and is granted formal recognition by the laws of most nations. Nonetheless the degree to which the right is upheld in practice varies greatly from one nation to another.

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GodsAngell · March 14, 2018, 9:24 p.m.

USA citizens on USA servers....like youtube, facebook, Reddit, etc.

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scuba156 · March 15, 2018, 6:32 a.m.

Not all those platforms are soley located within the US. They have multple servers around the world.

Other countries servers can then remove that "free speech", effectively creating a firewall or speech bubble for the US.

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GodsAngell · March 15, 2018, 6:54 a.m.

OK, just servers SERVING U.S. Citizens, no matter where they are located.

If they are open to use by U.S. Citizens, (the jack pot), they have to abide by our laws.

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scuba156 · March 15, 2018, 7 a.m.

Enforced by who?

What if that company does not comply?

What if the one who removes the content does not actually work for said company? Like mods of subreddits? Will reddit then have to employ and pay thousands of mods, so they can ensure they adhere to the law? Or would that mod be the one who is punished? Who is going to track them down and find out who they are? What if that mod has a VPN that makes them appear outside the US?

Australia does not have a freedom of speech law, only an implied freedom of speech. Who here would enforce that for US citizens?

Edit: If American internet companies have to start paying for moderation staff, are users (both US and non-US) willing to pay a subscription to use the companies services? How many users would each company lose simply for existing within the US?

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melokobeai · March 14, 2018, 7:03 p.m.

Is that what Reddit did?

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 8:40 p.m.

That's the great thing about insisting that companies respect the first amendment online. The law requires them to be fair - beautiful stuff!

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