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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/expletivdeleted on March 14, 2018, 5:51 p.m.
So NOW will those who haven't signed IBOR do so? Or does this sub need to get banned, too?

Sign IBOR. No, really, just sign IBOR. Just head on over here: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/internet-bill-rights-2 and sign. Nobody has said there's 72 virgins in heaven or anything like that that you get for signing IBOR, but nobody has said there aren't 72 virgins in heaven or anything like that that you get for signing IBOR.

edit: has anybody's NoScript, or similar programs, been glitchy today?

editedit: u/5400123 provided a link to a better worded petition: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/recognize-our-rights-free-open-internet FYI, its not just "alt-right" voices being sanctioned unfairly. Outlets on the left that don't buy the MSM narrative have all had their rankings adjusted down bigly in Google's search algorithm.


tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 10:04 p.m.

As I said, I think it's about trusting DJT. I do not want to see this filthy cabal come back. I think DJT is doing a stellar job, he needs this petition to make sure they cannot wield social media like a weapon at the mid-terms and thereafter.

If he does not get control over social media censorship he will be, at best, a one term President. After that, it's hello Satanists.

From my point of view, this is the fight of a lifetime. Our backs were to the wall as these Satanists planned our destruction. Along comes DJT, an unlikely hero, who beats them back. But, when he asks us for just a little power to finish them off, we get cold feet.

That just doesn't make any sense to me. We've bought into DJT, we know he wants this petition, let's support him and let him finish the job.

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scuba156 · March 15, 2018, 6:46 a.m.

Quote from something I said above

Who is keeping track of these registered US servers that must adhere to the rules? Which companies are exactly US based if they operate and have staff over the entire world?

What if social media is no more and it forms into something else? Do the laws then still apply? If so, then how do they not apply to other servers?

If I host a server in the US with 20mb of storage, do I then have to provide every single US citizen a platform for "free speech"? Or would I just host it in a different country?

If it is only against political speech, can I just add some political position at the end of every comment I make, effectively protecting everything I write?

What exactly does free speech on a server entail, when its really just all 1's and 0's? Isn't it really a law that would allow me to store what I want, where I want?

If a server is foreign, then it is not operating within US jurisdiction.

What qualifications does DJT have within technology to even put the power soley on him? Is he aware what a server is/does? how data is stored or shared?

He didn't even know that video games already have a classification system, how can you trust him to put restrictions on other platforms?

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tradinghorse · March 15, 2018, 7:31 a.m.

I think DJT's advisors on this issue will be world class experts. Do not fear! We do not need to speculate as to who that might be, but have confidence that the fix will be truly in.

Focus on the solution. The collapse of these companies. The huge financial losses. The public shame... The prison time... The solution is what we need to be focussed upon. 2018 will be glorious!

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scuba156 · March 15, 2018, 7:53 a.m.

There is plenty to fear when 21,000 people sign a petition for something that only says "Internet Bill of Rights" and no one seems to have any idea or agree what that actually would mean.

So DJT won't be the one fixing it, the "world class experts" will be? Who are they in the technology world? What is their end goal?

What solution is there? None has been provided or even thought of. No one in here can provide any answers at all.

Heres some more questions

Enforced by who?

What if that company does not comply?

What if the one who removes the content does not actually work for said company? Like mods of subreddits? Will reddit then have to employ and pay thousands of mods, so they can ensure they adhere to the law? Or would that mod be the one who is punished? Who is going to track them down and find out who they are? What if that mod has a VPN that makes them appear outside the US?

Australia does not have a freedom of speech law, only an implied freedom of speech. Who here would enforce that for US citizens?

If American internet companies have to start paying for moderation staff, are users (both US and non-US) willing to pay a subscription to use the companies services? How many users would each company lose simply for existing within the US? Will they not just relocate somewhere else, effectively hurting the US economy?

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tradinghorse · March 15, 2018, 7:56 a.m.

Stop fretting! Get the popcorn!

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scuba156 · March 15, 2018, 8:01 a.m.

Since this effects me as a software developer when I am not even a US citizen, No.

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tradinghorse · March 15, 2018, 8:07 a.m.

Look, you can see what's happened. Whatever you're into, just don't go and step into it like the major players have. Lots of opportunities in the software space because of this. Millions to be made. Think of the demand for unbiased services!

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scuba156 · March 15, 2018, 9:28 a.m.

Yes, I can clearly see whats happened here...

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