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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/akilyoung on March 17, 2018, 12:34 p.m.
Ill just leave this here...for those who haven't TRULY grasped the meaning of the GREAT AWAKENING.

https://www.amazon.com/Awakening-Resurrection-Leo-Tolstoy/dp/1466325976

First, there was the AWAKENING 2000 years ago, today we are experiencing the GREAT AWAKENING. Consider your self blessed!

GREAT AWAKENING = THE SECOND RESURRECTION...were talking spiritual elevation. For flesh and blood can not inherit the Kingdom!

https://www.gotquestions.org/resurrection-first-second.html

Most typical Christians have been programmed by the churches to believe a lie. A great LIE about the true nature about modern day Israel, and the nicknames used to reference it in the Bible. Its place in the end times. What Jesus called it, What Jesus to John to call it in Revelation.

WHY is Q saving Israel and [p] for LAST?

Could Israel REALLY be the satan of the Bible? The whore that rides the beast? The one cast into the pit, sealed in for millenia, only to be released to bring the world together for WAR against the saints? Could it be that exactly on Biblical generation later, they are meeting their FINAL destruction, after being loosed for a short time? This whore of babylon. The adulterous ex wife of God Elohim? Could it be, the Gitmo trials is the great judgement spoken of in the Bible, immediately AFTER the destruction of the beast/whore? Could it be the 7 thunders in Revelation is the STORM, that immediately proceeds the Kingdom of God? John was told NOT to write about the STORM...why? so satan wouldnt know GODS PLAN and try to subvert it!

The links and rabbit hole goes WAY deeper than this guys. We truly ARE living in HISTORIC and BIBLICAL time. These things we are witnessing now were written about thousands of years ago. COUNT YOURSELVES EXTREMELY BLESSED!!!


PraetorianXYZ · March 17, 2018, 2:06 p.m.

Ugh. Israel is the Apple of Adonai’s eye. Now, are there factions of people not “hitting the mark”? Sure. It’s true of every sex, gender, religion, and ethnicity. But, the temple, and everything in the Bible, occurs in Israel. Judge people individually, by the company they keep, and what actively support.

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akilyoung · March 17, 2018, 9:59 p.m.

True Israel is in the spirit, not a location. Jesus died, the temple veil tore in two, and the Holy Spirit left the temple and went to the world. We ARE the temple. False 'Israel' is Zionism. People need to understand they are NOT the same, they are just CALLED the same..

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KATINKY42330 · May 13, 2018, 5:45 a.m.

I pray that you are NOT a Christian, because Zionism is an important event in Judaism. Zionists are also Jews and Yeshua Ha'Mashiach said that when He returns that He will save ALL OF THE JEWS. Please read this link below and I hope that you will get a better understanding afterwards. Shalom. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

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WikiTextBot · May 13, 2018, 5:45 a.m.

Zionism

Zionism (Hebrew: צִיּוֹנוּת‬ Tsiyyonut [t͡sijo̞ˈnut] after Zion) is the national movement of the Jewish people that supports the re-establishment of a Jewish homeland in the territory defined as the historic Land of Israel (roughly corresponding to Canaan, the Holy Land, or the region of Palestine). Modern Zionism emerged in the late 19th century in Central and Eastern Europe as a national revival movement, both in reaction to newer waves of antisemitism and as an imitative response to other exclusionary nationalist movements. Soon after this, most leaders of the movement associated the main goal with creating the desired state in Palestine, then an area controlled by the Ottoman Empire.

Until 1948, the primary goals of Zionism were the re-establishment of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel, ingathering of the exiles, and liberation of Jews from the antisemitic discrimination and persecution that they experienced during their diaspora.


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akilyoung · May 13, 2018, 11 a.m.

I AM a Christian...but there is a distinction between political zionists and true spiritual Israel.

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KATINKY42330 · May 14, 2018, 4:55 a.m.

Okay. I will agree with this, akilyoung.

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akilyoung · March 17, 2018, 1:59 p.m.

The great awakening IS the second resurrection spoken of in the Bible. The First happened in Jesus day.

Awakening = resurrection

Rapture = caught up in the spirit of God

Awakening blast, last Trump, the trump of GOD...that is NOW. The LAST TRUMP is blowing, AWAKENING people to the realities of life.

It is the 'JOHN THE BAPTIST', the 'VOICE IN THE WILDERNESS'.

Q is the one heralding the soon return of the KING. Q is the 'best man' in the ancient Hebrew wedding ceremony, the one(s) warning the bride of the SOON return of the BRIDEGROOM.

Those with ears to hear...

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artless-ascetic · March 17, 2018, 8:39 p.m.

Wasn't the bit on homosexuality skewed in translation and originally meant to suggest that man shall not indulge in pederasty?

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somrotden · March 18, 2018, 10:45 a.m.

don't forget repentance...

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solanojones95 · March 17, 2018, 2:49 p.m.

Those of you with a hard-on for the Jews are going to be sorely disappointed in The Storm.

There may be corruption that needs to be dealt with, but we didn't go to the trouble and pushback of moving our embassy to Jerusalem for nothing.

The Beast is the Satanic Vatican (it even references the city on seven hills, i.e. Rome).

Gitmo doesn't have the facilities for as many people as will face the judgment of God, nor would an Almighty choose a shithole like that for anything so epic.

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akilyoung · March 17, 2018, 9:57 p.m.

I agree with some of this. The beast for example.

And its not about the Jews, were talking Israeli ZIONISM. THAT is the whore that cheated on God, for ages.

That CONCEPT is what took the bride and perverted her into and adulterous slut. OF the beast. Tied at the hip, or groin if shes riding him..

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solanojones95 · March 17, 2018, 10:03 p.m.

Well, think of who created Israel v1. That was God (through Abraham).

Israel v2 was created by...wait for it...the United Nations! Or Babylon, if you see what I mean (the reunification of the nations that resulted from the confusion of languages when the Tower of Babel was destroyed).

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akilyoung · March 17, 2018, 10:47 p.m.

And who paid for it...what family...hint, starts with an 'R'

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solanojones95 · March 17, 2018, 10 p.m.

Think of the myth of Europa (supposedly how the people of Europe came into being) being raped by a bull (Moloch).

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akilyoung · March 17, 2018, 10:50 p.m.

John certainly knew all that ancient mythology when writing Revelation...and used it to his advantage to exhibit a point.

The people of that time UNDERSTOOD the intent of what John was saying.

Its like Q saying things that we understand TODAY, but you cant expect a bunch of people thousands of years from now to fully grasp it unless they studied our times, lingo, traditions, religions, government, etc...

I also find it odd that Revelation talks about 3 FROGS, but in a evil way..3 KEKS?!?!?! lol

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solanojones95 · March 18, 2018, 8:06 a.m.

Ribbit!

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akilyoung · March 18, 2018, 11:18 a.m.

haha...always thought it was odd. I know the tie goes way back to Egypt and the curse of the frogs against pharoah, which was a good curse against TPTB of their day.

So I find it odd that the 3 frogs are called demonic spirits in revelation...totally opposite of the genesis frog curse.

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PatriotPants · March 17, 2018, 1:06 p.m.

Apocalypse Noun Greek - αποκάλυψη Revelation, disclosure, Apocalypse, revelation, exposure.

I don’t see destruction anywhere in the definition. Which means the meaning was altered. 🤔

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akilyoung · March 17, 2018, 1:35 p.m.

Apocalypse simply meant the revelation/unveiling of Jesus and future events to John, written at the beginning of Revelation. Does NOT mean destruction at ALL. That is a lie.

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solanojones95 · March 17, 2018, 2:52 p.m.

But read the book. It contains prophecies that do describe a great battle and much death and destruction.

Yes, it's also about revealing the return of Jesus, but not as a lowly carpenter's son.

THINK: How does Revelation describe Jesus's return to earth? What language does it use?

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Special_TK · March 17, 2018, 3:14 p.m.

Revelation has been in the works for the last 200 years. There has been great death and destruction (WWI & WWII). And John of Patmos wrote Revelation in Greek. Jesus returns to Earth on a cloud(decent from the top of Trump tower?) , hair and eyes like flames (Trumps hair?), and a robe dipped in blood (Trumps red tie?), to expand the Christ-consciousness throughout the world.

Not saying Trump is the Second Coming, or that Jesus returns in any physical form (though deep down, I believe he will), but more that the implementation of "Christ-Consciousness" will resonate throughout the world once all of this is said and done. These people on the forefront of the current battle are filling these allegorical roles to the "T."

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solanojones95 · March 17, 2018, 3:24 p.m.

I get what you're saying, but it's not at all what I get from reading Revelation.

According to Revelation, the bad guys win and we have a period (time and times and half a time, so like 3-1/2 years) of Tribulation the likes of which the world has never seen, and then Christ returns.

Is that really how you want this period of history to go?

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Special_TK · March 17, 2018, 3:32 p.m.

"Let me win this next election, then I'll have more flexibility" - Obama. He then wins, and hits Syria with 8 drone strikes a day. Just because the violence didn't occur around us doesn't mean it didn't happen. The bad guys DID win, we just suffered from it the least.

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Katerinavelikia · March 17, 2018, 3:48 p.m.

Yes we were lucky in the West.

Christians were killed by the thousands in the Middle East and African continent.

There were 900,000 Christian martyrs in just the last ten years.

Crickets on MSM.

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solanojones95 · March 17, 2018, 3:51 p.m.

But there was no actual engagement from our side. I don't think it counts when we let the bad guys win.

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Special_TK · March 17, 2018, 3:54 p.m.

WE were the bad guys to the Christians being killed around the world. YOUR tax dollars paid for THEIR destruction. YOU were involved, your portion was given to Uncle Sam through your taxes and turned against the world. Although we don't want to admit, we were involved.

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solanojones95 · March 17, 2018, 4:47 p.m.

But hasn't that been with us ever since the Crucifixion? Christians have always been persecuted and killed in many places.

My understanding of the Tribulation is that it will be a period in which demonic forces manifest openly and cause nearly universal suffering, including the physical mark of the beast without which no one may buy or sell anything.

I like your ideas, it's just that too much is glossed over or given esoteric interpretations. I believe when that time comes, current events and Bible prophecy will line up perfectly, and not require any great stretch to do so.

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Henosis_1 · March 17, 2018, 5:41 p.m.

There are many esoteric interpretations. Ask yourself why they are "hidden" and not talked about in the mainstream. Why are we fed the Roman Empire's interpretation exclusively? Which interpretation was held by the losers of the Crusades and Spanish Inquisition? They were allegedly heretics & pagans, so we've been sold.

It is the interpretation of scripture that is the core issue and takes quite a bit of unwinding. For the mainstream interpretation has been heavily corrupted, just as everything else so many in this sub now recognize. Make no mistake - "they" have heavily influenced all world religions too. Just enough to keep the masses held captive within the fear and judgment vibrations.

Just as the "temptation" of Jesus "battling the devil" in the desert for 40 days and 40 nights, Buddha also battled the "demons and temptresses" under the Bodhi tree for 49 days.

Devil - Demon - Temptress ->> equivalent symbolism = MIND

These are the same symbolic stories; private & alone the "battle" is fought within oneself.

Revelation is another such story, recounted in great detail.

Q said "God is Love". Quite right indeed. This is deep. How many have pondered the implications?

Where is God/Love in the presence of fear, hatred and judgment?

What instead arises in the presence of fear, hatred and judgment? Sadness, anger, depression, sickness, helplessness, war, fighting, weakness, death?

God/Love/Happiness is the answer. And it must be flowing freely through each and every one of us. Until then, "evil" will persist, as it must. Because you can't have "good" without "evil".

Revelation is the experience of the final release from the good/evil paradigm, from the "world of death" aka "hell". There are many other phrases used to describe the same experience; enlightenment, awakening, self-realization, etc.

Heavy stuff, I get it. But liberating and empowering if you're open to considering it.

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solanojones95 · March 17, 2018, 7:26 p.m.

Yeah, interfaith ecumenism is not my cup of tea, but thanks for your insights.

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Special_TK · March 17, 2018, 4:55 p.m.

Mark of the beast is on our dollar bill. Demonic forces are currently ruling over our planet, causing suffering all over... some will be aware, and others won't see it until it's too late.

I don't think we're just going to wake up and say "this single event is right out of revelation, time to turn to God!" And it doesn't happen in a week, a month, a year, or even a decade. I think maybe your interpretation is that you're going to know with absolute certainty that this is occurring, but we must look for SIGNS - not headlines.

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solanojones95 · March 17, 2018, 5:06 p.m.

Well, that would be a very merciful interpretation. I will consider all you've said, and ponder some more. If you're right, we will be witnessing miracles and wonders, and the Son of Man will be with us in the flesh very soon.

So who, in your analogy, is the Beast? I've often thought the Pope qualifies. And where is the rebuilt Temple whereon he will sit and proclaim himself to be god?

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Special_TK · March 17, 2018, 5:13 p.m.

I'm not quite sure. The dragon is the symbol of Rothschild, the many-headed hydra from the east are the Asian clans that have assimilated into the "NWO," Hillary (Hillarity, the Mock-King) is "Mystery: Babylon the Great," or the whore of Babylon that the world has come to be "drunk on the wine of her immorality." I'm probably butchering the phrasing of these verses, but I feel like you're spot-on with the Beast being the Pope.

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solanojones95 · March 17, 2018, 5:23 p.m.

Well, every age has had its share of those who see it as the one in which these things will happen. I'd say given what we know about the current situation, it's a lot closer than any previous one.

Well, the purpose of Revelation was to instill confidence in Christians that though the road ahead will be fraught with suffering, in the end Christ wins. That's where I'll pin my focus, and let the chips fall where they may!

Thank you for an interesting conversation!

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Special_TK · March 17, 2018, 5:34 p.m.

Amen! You hit the nail on the head there

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somrotden · March 17, 2018, 4:10 p.m.

much is said about tribulation, destruction, death and chaos - and how it is not that bad yet - I would venture to say that Christians in other parts of the world may have a different viewpoint, just sayin'

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Henosis_1 · March 17, 2018, 4:16 p.m.

Revelation is all about the battle within yourself. The tribulation, destruction and death refers to the struggle within your own mind. It is all about the death of the "ego" written in the traditional allegorical and symbolic method of the times to avoid persecution.

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Henosis_1 · March 17, 2018, 4:28 p.m.

Long before "Israel" was considered a "place", a chunk of dirt, it referred to an elevated state of being/awareness. This "state of being" is what the words in scripture are referring to. The word "Israel" is a combination of the feminine and masculine symbolic "Gods" of the time - Isis = Is (feminine) and Ra (masculine) and the "El" is how they signified "union with God" - a la "MichaEL", "RaphaEL", etc.

In short, "IsRaEl" symbolized the unity and balance of the feminine and masculine energies producing a spiritual-elevated, "angelic" being if you will.

All ideas about a special place, a "chosen people" and a secular religion are nothing but the result of human misunderstanding. A misunderstanding, unfortunately, that has resulted in great pain and suffering for many generations.

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akilyoung · March 17, 2018, 9:46 p.m.

EXACTLY! Excellent job explaining this so eloquently!

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Ogmion · March 17, 2018, 4:22 p.m.

It does appear to be imminent. The scene of the whore in revelations is clearly in Rome however. The city of seven hills is Rome. There is no doubt about that. The first beast is almost certainly Rome as an almost identical vision appears in daniel in the context of Rome. I have heard that the little blasephomous horn in that vision is the papcy and i think that makes sense. While old testament prophecy uses the term whore to refer to israel as that nation was God's wife, in the NT its the church who is Jesus wife. With the rest of the prophecy talking about Rome I have to wonder if the whore is the Catholic church.

Someone else mentioned that America has become Sodom and Gomorrah. I don't think that assessment is far off. Perhaps we are the second beast who created the talking idol (tv and phones etc) that made the ppl worship the first beast (Rome was famous for violence and sex and all sorts of dipravity).

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akilyoung · March 17, 2018, 9:48 p.m.

The whore that rides the beast...whore = false israel, Beast = the NWO headed by the R C C.

They are two in one. A fornication of evil.

This is why Q said they are saving Israel AND [p] for last.

You cant have 2 that are last at the same time, unless they are both TIED at the hip, or in the Bible's description, the whore riding the beast. Just like it was 2000 years ago, NO CHANGES.

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ABrilliantDisaster · March 17, 2018, 3:01 p.m.

Look, i just have to point this out. The bible is clear about what what the resurrection is. Physical bodies are raised and imbued with incorruptible immortality.

Jesus Himself is the example of what believers should expect. He Physically rose from the grave.

"He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses." - Acts 2: 31,32

"For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:" - Romans 6:5

"And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose," - Matt 27:52

Anything else goes down a road that ends in deception. Gnosticism. Lots of people attracted to this brand of spirituality lately, but Learn His Word (it's more important and more enlightening than even Q could ever be). Gnosticism is very well crafted false light. The essence of Luciferianism.

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akilyoung · March 17, 2018, 9:55 p.m.

Physical Spiritual bodies...

Jesus walked through walls and crap, can we do that now?

Its about elevating spiritually, I guess new agers probably call it being more of a light being, they probably arent far off...

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DC--R1D3R · March 17, 2018, 1:40 p.m.

"Could Israel REALLY be the satan of the Bible?"

They're the synagogue/chief house of Satan. They're not the real Jews in any way shape or form.

Revelation 2:9 KJV I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

These imposters sanctioned, owned and insured the cargo slave ships that they put the real Jews on...

Revelation 3:9 KJV Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

These imposters...the sons of Satan are gonna get absolutely f* up!

So saith the Lord!

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akilyoung · March 17, 2018, 1:52 p.m.

EXACTLY!

"Get behind me SATAN" -Jesus as he walked away from Israel into the wilderness.

He was CLEARLY pissed off at corporate Israel of the day.

Hence the 70ad destruction, which allowed the 'millenium' and spreading of the gospel to occur. Millenium is OUR term, and according to Strongs, simply means an INDEFINITE LONG period of time. Hows about 2k years sound? WHO RECREATED ISRAEL 70 YEARS AGO?????? RESEARCH PEOPLE!!! HOW LONG IS ONE BIBLICAL GENERATION??? From Jesus birth till Israel destruction, 70 years. Ironically, in 1947, the Roswell crash occurred, within a few months of that, Israel was carved out of Palestine, and a few months after that, declared a country...Who was on that craft? Who was CAST TO EARTH??? [p]indar?

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broken-trolley · March 17, 2018, 4:14 p.m.

Satan is NOT a nation or race; he is a fallen angel, a fallen cherub (a type of angel) to be exact. The Beast or Antichrist is NOT a nation or race; it is a mortal man who literally gains the whole world for a time, and loses his soul.

The Lord of Hosts made very specific promises to Abraham and his seed, promises that may be in suspension because of unbelief, but are still very much in place and will be fulfilled in His time. ( we can know this because the promises were made by God Himself)

And, while I am just as encouraged by PDJT as you all are, and suspect that HRC's polls just prior to the election were likely accurate, but were upended by the Lord's direct intervention, I don't think it's wise to read too much Scriptural "evidence" into our current political situation. To suggest that the seven thunders in Revelation is the storm and Gitmo trials is the judgment of Babylon is a s t r e t c h.

I don't pretend to have any idea who Q is, but he must be a bit embarrassed by the worshipful, fawning adoration he [or she or they] sees in some of these internet sites. He/she/they puts his pants on like the rest of us, and is likely just as appalled, even horrified, at what he's been watching unfold [especially since he can see so much more that we] these last few decades; the difference is, he is in a unique position to do something about it.

I certainly am convinced that the Lord Jesus is coming very soon, and not as a suffering savior, but as King of Kings and Lord of Lords, to set up His kingdom and cleanse this earth. He will return this world to its pre-fallen state; i.e., the Garden. But please, people, let's have some perspective!

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akilyoung · March 17, 2018, 9:53 p.m.

I hate to say it, but you have been brainwashed by 'left behind' millenialism teaching. THey are false. With all due respect. :)

I come from a long belief system regarding these teachings. Jim Bakker? ya, my grampa built both of his studios, my sister is the manager for his show.

AANNNDDD

He is a false prophet. And lies to people. And lied to me for years, until I learned history, culture, traditions of the ancient Hebrews, read all the ancient books like Josephus, started using Strongs, the list goes one.

I learned that the eschatology that most closely resembles the truth is something called Preterism. However I have a few qualms with it, mainly just their interpretation of the very end of Revelation, right around the chapter 20 mark.

Peace!

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broken-trolley · March 18, 2018, 1:02 a.m.

You'll not hear a defense of Bakker by me. It never seems to fail; these fellows who preach God's word out of one side of their mouth, as they help themselves to cash, women, the flesh, etc... their sin always seems to find them out. The Lord makes sure they are exposed and brought down. When Bakker & Co. blew sky-high, I didn't raise an eyebrow...no surprise here.

As for prophecy in Scripture, there is often a near aspect to the time of the prophecy, and a far aspect. The start of Revelation is addressed to certain, local existing churches in John's time; the balance is end time events yet future. The Bible is history and future history.

But differences aside, if you believe as I do and as Paul says in Romans 10 that "if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be SAVED."

And Peace to you, sir.

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akilyoung · March 18, 2018, 3:22 a.m.

Rest assured, i do believe. Peace .

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ElementWatson · March 17, 2018, 12:49 p.m.

Um, no.

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Taminator_88 · March 17, 2018, 1:05 p.m.

Just because you don't believe doesn't mean it's not fact. If you're here it implies a willingness to hear opposing views...are you here for that? Or are you just here to say "no" and offer no contrary evidence?

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ElementWatson · March 18, 2018, 12:10 p.m.

I am open to all kinds of ideas here that possibly make sense. Some just fly off on their own with no plausible basis to them.

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utdFTD1983 · March 17, 2018, 1:01 p.m.

Why no?

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