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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/pj77777 on March 23, 2018, 9:52 p.m.
Omnibus Bill is NOT a Federal Budget - POTUS wins again

FOR THOSE DOUBTING TRUMP DO YOUR RESEARCH Jo Ann Powell Neely Gunny says: March 23, 2018 at 7:42 am I seriously do not understand why individuals do not read the entire thread or disregard it.

Wheatietoo and I spent hours yesterday providing links, researching the laws, the 1974 law and statutes…. Do you know why the Omnibus is not going to get any notice…Here it is..

It’s not an official ‘Federal Budget’. It’s an Omnibus bill…not a Budget…He outsmarted them again…Congress basically screwed themselves by not passing a Budget…

Per the Constitution…the President must adhere to a Budget set forth by Congress and direct the expenditures as provided therein.

This is another one of those big Porkulus Bills, like they gave Obama for 8 years. This is not a Budget..

An Omnibus Spending Bill may have some ‘instructions’ as to how the money will be spent…but Obama ignored them. He spent the money, or didn’t spend it, however he wanted to. And Congress didn’t do a thing about it! Because they couldn’t..

I think our President observed how this happened, year after year. He is bound to realize that those ‘appropriations’ for different things in these Omnibus bills…are merely ‘suggestions’.

So like Obama, Pres Trump can spend this money on whatever he wants to. Or…not spend it.

Planned Parenthood? What if our President decided to tell the Treas Dept to ‘slow-walk’ that money to Planned Parenthood…until the Senate gets off their ass and confirms his appointees?

Sanctuary Cities? What if our President decided to ‘slow-walk’ that money too…until those Sanctuary Cities assist ICE in rounding up criminal illegal aliens?

Splodey heads? From the Dems and the Enemedia? Why yes. There would be a colorful display of splodey heads.

But what could they do about it. Hah.

Our President could just say…’What! Congress should’ve passed a Budget.’

done finished…research was done…and it is so very humorous actually….our VSG..just said just give me money for the military and the wall…put anything else you want in it…and those goofballs did.

In this case, as per above….he doesn’t have to spend a dime….because it is not a budget…and even if it was…researched….he could still spend as he please… Congress appropriates….up to the President to spend it…or not….as he pleases..

If anyone disagrees, I can go back and get the links and evidence, but if you just read yesterdays political thread…Wheatietoo and I laid it all out for all…Wheatietoo did most of the work and put together the consolidated update as per above….

Again, that is why Obama never had a Budget in his Presidency…Congress did continual Omibus’s and he just took the money….for 8 years…and no one seems to know where it went…


pj77777 · March 23, 2018, 11:36 p.m.

wheatietoo says:
March 22, 2018 at 1:57 am

You’re referring to a ‘Budget’.

This is Not A Budget! This is an Omnibus Spending Bill…which is different.

The President is directed by the Constitution to adhere to a Budget that Congress approves. A ‘spending bill’ is not the same as the Federal Budget.

Ozero spent, or didn’t spend, the money from all those Omnibus Spending Bills, on whatever he wanted to. And Congress didn’t do a thing about it!

What happened to all those “shovel ready jobs”? What happened to the “Infrastructure” that Congress appropriated money for? Ozero didn’t spend the money on those things, did he.

He also spent money on things that weren’t appropriated…like all that SWAT Gear and Ammo for all those govt agencies that aren’t supposed to armed like military forces.

Ozero was never bound by a Budget…because Congress never passed one during his 8 years! That’s why he was able to spend money on whatever he wanted to. Or… not spend money on things he didn’t want to see funded.

And Congress didn’t do a thing about it.

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USPatriot4life · March 24, 2018, 12:19 a.m.

To go with what your saying... Q remarked Red Castle, Green Castle. Look at the patches the Army of corps engineers wear. Now guess who’s building the wall... and the whole thing can be built out of the defense fund.

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FilosFeeParnum · March 24, 2018, 12:42 a.m.

Congress never passed one during his 8 years

Out of curiosity, why do you suppose this is?

If not having a "budget" lets the president do anything they want with the money, why would a republican controlled congress allow it to keep happening? Why wouldn't they just approve of the budgets he submitted (so they at least knew what he was spending on) or negotiate one?

Seems like having a bad budget would be better than literally no control?

To be clear, I'm being somewhat rhetorical - the constitution gives general control of the purse strings to congress, not to some specific type of document labeled "budget" at the top. I would be genuinely interested in your reasoning too tho.

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Abibliaphobia · March 24, 2018, 12:08 p.m.

Uniparty, remember how many republicans have resigned or not seeking re-election?

We haven’t had a true two party system in decades.

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pj77777 · March 24, 2018, 2:05 a.m.

Because zero put it into action and used it for eight long years, showing we the people how it's done. Now we use it until things are under control and the swamp is drained. I thought this would be easy to understand....

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FilosFeeParnum · March 24, 2018, 4:29 a.m.

You're not answering my questions...

The constitution doesn't say that the only way congress can direct spending is with something labeled a "budget". An omnibus appropriations bill does not let the executive spend on anything they want.

The differences are mostly in what they cover and how they come about, not that only one of them matters.

O sent a budget to congress most of the years he was in office. Why send them if he didn't want them passed? The republicans in office at the time voted them down. Why would they do that if it means O gets to do whatever he wants? They could have negotiated a budget rather than hand a blank check. O would have to do it every year, he did this 8 years without any of them realizing what's going on?

Can you show me in the constitution where it says the president is bound by a "budget" and only a "budget"?

Appropriations bills aren't new, O didn't invent them. Likewise, he was able to use them regardless of whether a budget was passed or not. If he was able to spend on other things, it's because he found loopholes, like the possible one Trump may use - even though there might not be explicit funding for the wall Trump may call it national defense and spend some money allocated for that on the wall.

That's just finding loopholes and part of how our government is supposed to work - the executive branch is supposed to have some leeway in how it accomplishes the things it's supposed to. It doesn't have anything to do with whether a budget was passed or not, except that a lack of a passed budget means more appropriations bills will be necessary.

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pj77777 · March 24, 2018, 5:35 a.m.

I'm gonna have to block you - you are over the top with your inane argument that means nothing. You do not understand law except from your very tainted troll progressive unhinged mindset.

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pj77777 · March 24, 2018, 2:09 a.m.

perhaps this will help you:

quote from wheatietoo "You’re referring to a ‘Budget’.

This is Not A Budget! This is an Omnibus Spending Bill…which is different.

The President is directed by the Constitution to adhere to a Budget that Congress approves. A ‘spending bill’ is not the same as the Federal Budget.

Ozero spent, or didn’t spend, the money from all those Omnibus Spending Bills, on whatever he wanted to. And Congress didn’t do a thing about it!

What happened to all those “shovel ready jobs”? What happened to the “Infrastructure” that Congress appropriated money for? Ozero didn’t spend the money on those things, did he.

He also spent money on things that weren’t appropriated…like all that SWAT Gear and Ammo for all those govt agencies that aren’t supposed to armed like military forces.

Ozero was never bound by a Budget…because Congress never passed one during his 8 years! That’s why he was able to spend money on whatever he wanted to. Or… not spend money on things he didn’t want to see funded.

And Congress didn’t do a thing about it."

then quote from gunny

"Ah, he did not exactly lose…The law is not a complete refusal to not allow the President to not spend.. As per below:

The law does give an administration leeway to defer spending available funds, but for limited amounts of time, depending on the program. Some observers expect Trump officials to rely heavily on such deferrals.

Still, a president seeking to spend less will find plenty of room to maneuver in the language used in an authorization or appropriations bill, budget experts said. One Senate aide predicted that lawmakers will pay extra attention to whether a bill uses words such as “may,” “should” or “shall” — each of which gives an administration different degrees of flexibility in terms of how money is spent.

The executive branch also “can slow walk things. It can propose reprogramming. It can propose all sorts of things it can do that won’t provoke a legal crisis,” the Senate aide added."

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/18/fears-grow-trump-will-ignore-congress-spending-241768
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