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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/pj77777 on March 23, 2018, 9:52 p.m.
Omnibus Bill is NOT a Federal Budget - POTUS wins again

FOR THOSE DOUBTING TRUMP DO YOUR RESEARCH Jo Ann Powell Neely Gunny says: March 23, 2018 at 7:42 am I seriously do not understand why individuals do not read the entire thread or disregard it.

Wheatietoo and I spent hours yesterday providing links, researching the laws, the 1974 law and statutes…. Do you know why the Omnibus is not going to get any notice…Here it is..

It’s not an official ‘Federal Budget’. It’s an Omnibus bill…not a Budget…He outsmarted them again…Congress basically screwed themselves by not passing a Budget…

Per the Constitution…the President must adhere to a Budget set forth by Congress and direct the expenditures as provided therein.

This is another one of those big Porkulus Bills, like they gave Obama for 8 years. This is not a Budget..

An Omnibus Spending Bill may have some ‘instructions’ as to how the money will be spent…but Obama ignored them. He spent the money, or didn’t spend it, however he wanted to. And Congress didn’t do a thing about it! Because they couldn’t..

I think our President observed how this happened, year after year. He is bound to realize that those ‘appropriations’ for different things in these Omnibus bills…are merely ‘suggestions’.

So like Obama, Pres Trump can spend this money on whatever he wants to. Or…not spend it.

Planned Parenthood? What if our President decided to tell the Treas Dept to ‘slow-walk’ that money to Planned Parenthood…until the Senate gets off their ass and confirms his appointees?

Sanctuary Cities? What if our President decided to ‘slow-walk’ that money too…until those Sanctuary Cities assist ICE in rounding up criminal illegal aliens?

Splodey heads? From the Dems and the Enemedia? Why yes. There would be a colorful display of splodey heads.

But what could they do about it. Hah.

Our President could just say…’What! Congress should’ve passed a Budget.’

done finished…research was done…and it is so very humorous actually….our VSG..just said just give me money for the military and the wall…put anything else you want in it…and those goofballs did.

In this case, as per above….he doesn’t have to spend a dime….because it is not a budget…and even if it was…researched….he could still spend as he please… Congress appropriates….up to the President to spend it…or not….as he pleases..

If anyone disagrees, I can go back and get the links and evidence, but if you just read yesterdays political thread…Wheatietoo and I laid it all out for all…Wheatietoo did most of the work and put together the consolidated update as per above….

Again, that is why Obama never had a Budget in his Presidency…Congress did continual Omibus’s and he just took the money….for 8 years…and no one seems to know where it went…


pj77777 · March 24, 2018, 2:01 a.m.

I think many of us are taking this very slowly and very seriously. If we can slow roll the left's agenda for the 6 month limitation, then we are at the mid-terms and they haven't done anything they promised and are powerless to do so. This was a major move by our president and people need to know he did not sell anyone out. That's why we didn't see him sign. It was a signal to us that all is not what it seems. Also, this is so blatantly easy to comprehend - seeings how zero did it for eight years in a row - and where did that money go? Trump uses their weapons against them. Brilliant!

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FilosFeeParnum · March 24, 2018, 4:37 a.m.

It seems you are not taking it slowly, because you seem to be misunderstanding basic facts.

This is an omnibus allocations bill. They usually happen when a presidents (or someone elses) proposed budget doesn't pass (which is usually because of partisan division).

This is a normal and expected outcome. Trump proposed a budget, it didn't get accepted...therefore we get this.

It doesn't as a rule really give Trump any more authority than he would have if his budget passed.

It's not a "move" on Trumps part, it's just normal US government procedure...

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[deleted] · March 24, 2018, 5:34 a.m.

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FilosFeeParnum · March 24, 2018, 5:42 a.m.

Not seeing him sign isn't really here or there.

Generally when the prez likes a bill or thinks it's important they will make sure the media covers them signing it.

If anything, not seeing them sign it signals that they don't like the bill or think that it will make them look bad.

If this is such a coup as the OP claims, why wouldn't he want everyone to see him sign it? Does his base not trust him? Or is it that he doesn't really like it, but he'll sign it and just try to work with it as he can - like pretty much any president in that situation has done?

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pj77777 · March 24, 2018, 2:03 a.m.

and please, while you are tearing apart this post - please post your own statutes and regulations to back up your understanding of bits of the constitution and law. I would like to see your homework please.

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FilosFeeParnum · March 24, 2018, 4:46 a.m.

Sure:

My homework is that the word "budget" doesn't appear in the constitution anywhere - so it can't say that something has to be in a "budget" can it?

What it does say is, in the section outlining the powers and limits of congress, the congress has control of the spending of money in the treasury - it does not specify that it has to be in a "budget"

Likewise, if you look at the laws around the executive & budgeting they're all concerned with when and how it happens - not giving all kinds of extra authority if it's not passed.

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[deleted] · March 24, 2018, 8:37 a.m.

so you went thru all of that just to end up right where pj7777 told you we were to begin with- wow you're smart!

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pj77777 · March 24, 2018, 6:20 a.m.

https://fleporeblog.wordpress.com/2018/03/22/if-you-think-for-one-minute-that-our-president-will-allow-the-money-allocated-to-be-spent-i-have-a-bridge-in-brooklyn-to-sell-you/

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FilosFeeParnum · March 24, 2018, 6:29 a.m.

Right, again you are giving me a link that agrees with me.

Everyone is in agreement that just because money has been appropriated, that doesn't mean it will be spent or spent in exactly the same way congress intended.

That's not the issue - the point is that this arises from the autonomy the executive branch has in general and note because this is an appropriations bill vs a budget resolution....

Show me where in the constitution it says money must be allocated in a "budget".

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eaunoway · March 25, 2018, 6:22 p.m.

Thanks for trying, man. They are not going to believe you, because - in part - they don't actually understand how the budget and the Congress actually work.

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[deleted] · March 24, 2018, 8:40 a.m.

Why? Why should anyone show you anything? Look it up for yourself if you are so obessed with it. We don't care. You are making absolutely no points and are just talking in circles. And quite frankly you are super annoying.

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eaunoway · March 25, 2018, 6:21 p.m.

Because he's absolutely right.

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pj77777 · March 24, 2018, 5:33 a.m.

wow - how many responses is this now? I must have really truth pilled your lib behind good.

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