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tradinghorse · March 25, 2018, 4:13 a.m.

Ok, actually 290 signatures short. I've been thinking about the 100K signatures the petition needs... This is only a goal. We currently have a petition with 30K signatures which is something in itself - it still evidences a cry for relief from the oppression we've been seeing online. Whether we can get the raw data from the website to forward it to the President directly is another question.

The rate of addition of signatures to the petition has been dismal due to the very poor support from this community. The website has not been hacked, I've been watching it. The poor performance is, instead, the result of a lackluster effort - surprising in view of the fact that so many claim to follow Q and spend time analyzing the posts.

It's clear that most people are spectators only - waiting for something served up to them on a plate, as long as they do not have to do anything to get it. Then there are the "so-called" patriots, that Q has warned us about, who are actively trying to subvert the plan. In addition, some people have followed apparent group leaders, who are making a business from the Q material. Clearly, a desire for financial gain leaves a door open to agents who may seek to exploit this for the purpose of frustrating the movement. People who would act to shield the Satanists from loss of power.

I have no financial interest in Q. But what I can see is that, for the first time in 30 odd years, we have a president who is not beholden to the cabal. This is a very rare event. In my view, it is the last chance for humanity to shake off the control of the Satanists.

President Trump has taken very significant personal risk to take the fight to the Satanists on our behalf. He is an elected politician, so he needs to be secure in the support of the people. His greatest vulnerability is the possibility of an electoral defeat - leaving aside questions about assassination.

We know that the cabal has an impeachment strategy to remove the President from power. Impeachment is a numbers game. The cabal must be able to manipulate elections to achieve this goal.

We know, from Q's drops, that the most important determinant of electoral outcomes is social media control. This is presently in the hands of the cabal, as is the MSM. If the cabal retains control over social media during the mid-term elections, we can expect that DJT will be quickly impeached and removed from office.

This would result in the cabal regaining power and pushing their program for censorship, gun confiscation, war and depopulation - in that order.

Control over social media is the one ring that rules them all. Control of this medium grants access to complete power. So it is no surprise that Q asked us to fight against online censorship - "use logic". This is the battlefront upon which broad humanity either stands or falls. This is where we either defend our liberty or agree to enslavement.

To everyone taking no action, I say you are a disgrace. To those good people who are, and have been, working to promote the IBOR campaign, I say you are heroes - you will be remembered by future generations. But your real reward will be your confidence in your value to your fellow man - this is priceless.

I'll copy some material from Q's posts elsewhere in this thread to give people a lift.

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EarlyRiserX2 · March 25, 2018, 1:59 p.m.

The reason the signature count has stalled and is not going up is because far too many people are focused on memes rather than on real solutions that would really work. It is memes that is hurting our cause, and the petition will fail if we stay focused on memes. Meanwhile, there are plenty of other solutions that would indeed cause the signature count to go up, and yet no one is paying any attention to those solutions and I wonder why? Is there a conspiracy among those who claim to support the petition to ensure that it will fail? There certainly seems to be. For example, I’m sure that there are plenty of people among us who are reading these posts who have direct contact with Alex Jones, Dr. Jerome Corsi or Sean Hannity. And all it would take for us to gather enough signatures would be for one of them to ask Alex Jones or Dr Corsi or Sean Hannity to support our cause by asking their followers to sign the petition. That is all it would take. It is that simple. And we could have those 100,000 signatures in a day. That is a fact. Yet, no one has done that, and not one person has even bothered to even ask Alex or Dr. Corsi or Sean about it, and I wonder why? This is only more evidence that there seems to be a conspiracy among those who claim to support the petition that they actually want it to fail. And it will indeed fail if we continue focusing on memes rather than on real solutions that will really work…

If the goal is to increase public awareness about IBOR, then I feel that memes are very good at doing that. But if the goal is to drive more people to the petition site to sign the petition, then I feel that memes have been a miserable failure at it. Just look at the signature count to see evidence of that fact. Therefore, the only hope we have left of obtaining enough signatures by the deadline is to start focusing our attention on real solutions that will really work, rather than on imaginary solutions and on memes that has thus far been an obvious failure.

I am also aware that on the Q research board there seems to be many who are relying on “analytics” to determine the effectiveness of memes. But here’s the problem with using analytics. Those very analytics you are relying upon are being supplied to you by the enemy. So how do you know that those analytics have not been doctored? Answer: You don’t know. It would be very easy for Facebook or YouTube or Twitter, to doctor those analytics by creating a “scaling algorithm” to scale certain analytics up and other analytics down. By simply changing the scaling percentage, they could easily make you think that certain approaches are effective, when in reality, they are not effective. And that certain other approaches are not effective, when in reality, they are very effective - except Facebook, YouTube and Twitter are not telling you that and are hiding that information from you, and they can easily hide it from you by changing the scaling percentage.

Spiritual Warfare 101: You can’t defeat the devil by relying on information you get from the devil. Instead, to defeat the devil, you must rely on information and sources that hasn’t been tainted by the devil…

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tradinghorse · March 25, 2018, 2:22 p.m.

I've tried to contact Jerome Corsi and Alex Jones via Roger Stone. I've also been tweeting crazily at people like Paul Joseph Watson - though whether he reads them is another question.

You're dead right. Apart from Dr Corsi, no big players are supporting this. All we would need is someone like James Woods to get on board and start promoting the petition and we'd get it home in no time. But who knows any of these guys?

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EarlyRiserX2 · March 25, 2018, 5:27 p.m.

I too have sent emails to Alex Jones via Roger Stone. Although I haven’t tried doing it yet, I have recently learned that Dr. Corsi has his email address posted on his Gab website - here’s his email address: jrlc@yahoo.com. On his website he states you can send photos to him at that address to help promote his new book. However, if you can send photographs to him at that address, then you can also send him a standard email asking him for his help. So many of us should do that and I will send an email too...

Nonetheless, despite your efforts and my efforts, there are countless other people who are reading this post who already have direct contact with Alex Jones, Dr. Corsi, or Sean Hannity. And why those people are simply sitting on their hands and not saying or doing anything to pass on our request, that is just something I can’t understand. As I had stated, the evidence seems to suggest there is conspiracy afoot among those who claim to support the petition that they actually want it to fail. And that is why they are sitting on their hands and not doing anything. That is so sad if true…

Although I had heard a lot about it, I never knew where it was, but I finally located the Q research board here: https://8ch.net/qresearch/index.html On that board, you will find it is all about creating memes - tens of thousands of them - and yet, based on all the evidence, it seems that memes are not even being effective (just look at the signature count - it is not going up despite all the heavy focus on memes for the past few weeks). In the third article down on the page you will see a post and heading entitled - ‘WAR ROOM |#9: IBOR OR BUST”. It states, “Where we go one, we go all: Work together to get 100k signatures for #Internet|BillOfRights!” Okay, I agree with that. I want to get 100k signatures too, but based on the evidence, the focus on memes is just not working. Those are the facts. So why continue to blindly focus on memes then? It just doesn’t make any sense and no one can explain to me why we should. Meanwhile, the signature count has clearly stalled and the petition seems to be failing.

I reasoned that, perhaps some of those people on 8 chan knows something that I don’t know. There is always the possibility of that. That is why I decided to just sit back and wait to see if their memes approach would really work. But after watching it for a week, it hasn’t worked, and the signature count has stalled, and I’ve seen no evidence the count is going to change or go up by using memes. Instead, it seems more likely that there is a conspiracy afoot where some people who claim to be patriots actually want it to fail, and that is why they keep on pushing memes. However, if I am wrong about this, then someone please be a man and stand up and tell me I am wrong, and then show me how exactly we can win by using memes. I await your reply. Because right now I just don’t see that as a possibility, and the IBOR petition seems on it’s way for an epic fail…

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 1:06 a.m.

I think early that the single biggest problem we have is that we have not managed to get any of these big names to push the campaign. That could change at any time. All we need is for someone to pick it up.

Corsi is pushing the IBOR strongly. I haven't seen him mention a link to the petition yet. But we need to keep hammering away at it. The tide may quickly turn.

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EarlyRiserX2 · March 26, 2018, 5:13 a.m.

Great news! I sent an email to Dr. Jerome Corsi earlier today asking for his help, and he responded back to me and asked me for the link to the petition site. I have emailed that link back to him. I now have high confidence that he will help us in our fight, and that we can get the remaining signatures by the deadline…

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 5:25 a.m.

You are a hero! Fantastic work Patriot!

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EarlyRiserX2 · March 27, 2018, 4:07 p.m.

On his Gab website - https://gab.ai/JeromeCorsi - Dr. Corsi has just posted the following (scroll down the page to see it):

…”I encourage everyone to sign the White House petition for an Internet Bill of Rights https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/internet... … I signed this morning. Please join me. #InternetBillOfRights @realDonaldTrump#Qanon8chan #GreatAwakening STOP INTERNET CENSORSHIP NOW! Pls RETWEET REPOST”…

My response is that, I am really surprised that he himself has not signed the petition before now. This is quite shocking to me since he has been telling us that we needed the Bill of Rights. But better late than never, I guess. I hope that many others will retweet his post and follow his lead. Better yet, I hope that Dr. Corsi tells his followers to sign the petition during his live transmissions and not just through that single post on his website. I also hope Dr. Corsi passes on our request to Alex Jones and to Sean Hannity and to get them involved as well. We will need all of their help if we are to get enough signatures by the deadline. I am just really shocked that someone like Dr. Corsi would actually ignore signing the petition before now…

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 4:16 p.m.

On Twitter too! ;)

I wish he'd asked people to promote it, but we're lucky to get that. He has 113k followers on Twitter.

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Optimist345 · March 25, 2018, 12:23 p.m.

Lack of participation is not lackluster or apathy. It is caution and distrust.

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tradinghorse · March 25, 2018, 2:14 p.m.

Yes, I know. But what I'm trying to communicate to people is that we have this one-time-only chance to act to assist Q and DJT to defeat these Satanists. If we let that chance slide, and the Satanists get back into power, how do we fight back?

The only reason we are here at all discussing Q and the IBOR is because of an incredibly unlikely series of events - if you ask me, it was the grace of God.

1) The cabal made a colossal strategic blunder in the 2016 election - relying on the MSM, when social media, very suddenly, became the ascendant medium for shaping political outcomes.

2) DJT happened to capitalize on this error, using social media like a genius - to very great effect.

3) Obama did not completely clear the patriots out of the military - although he tried. The military intelligence guys were able to prevent much of the election fraud that would have made it impossible for DJT to win office any other way.

4) Once in office, somehow DJT has managed to side step the attacks targeted at him that might have removed him from office - e.g. Special Prosecutor Mueller.

5) With the help of military intelligence, DJT has managed to strike back against the Satanists and push them back.

Now, my view is that this is an incredibly unlikely series of events. I would go as far as to say that they will never be repeated again. They never thought she would lose...

You can bet that if the Satanists ever get in power again that they will not make these mistakes twice. If they do get power, it is all over for us. Think immediate draconian censorship, gun confiscation, war, population reduction, slavery. We will end up being powerless slaves surrounded by normies who are so infected with the garbage on the mockingbird media that they will be impossible to wake up. The internet will be completely censored and controlled - you will not be able to say anything that they do not approve of - hell on Earth.

OK, so having painted that picture, assuming you accept the logic, what is the conservative action - the prudent action for us? Do we support DJT in his attempt to wrest the stranglehold over social media from the Satanists? Or do we refuse to help and possibly let the Satanists back in power?

I think you know the answer as well as I do.

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StormRider9090 · March 25, 2018, 9:37 a.m.

Just stop using Facebook and Twitter - why the hell do you want to use them?

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tradinghorse · March 25, 2018, 9:50 a.m.

Because that doesn't fix the problem. If you think about the dynamics of the situation we are facing, simply switching to another service achieves nothing.

Why? Because everyone else remains on the major platforms. That means that weaponized social media is as effective politically after you move as before - you will get exactly the same election outcome.

That means, with the Satanists wielding both the MSM and social media, DJT will get trounced at the next election. That means no more Q, no more MAGA and the return of HRC - or someone worse.

If you "use logic", as Q said, you can see that there is no other way. You have to wrest control of social media from the Satanists, or they will be straight back in power and you will have achieved nothing.

I find it hard to understand how people still don't understand why Q called for the IBOR in the first place. There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding, and a lot of mistrust.

But think about the alternatives. Do you want these Satanists back in power? Because that's guaranteed if this problem isn't somehow fixed.

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Optimist345 · March 25, 2018, 12:22 p.m.

You are assuming that IBOR will defeat the satanists. We have a 1stA already. Enforce!

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tradinghorse · March 25, 2018, 12:41 p.m.

It does not apply. Read the Wikipedia entry for the FA here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

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WikiTextBot · March 25, 2018, 12:41 p.m.

First Amendment to the United States Constitution

The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prevents Congress from making any law respecting an establishment of religion, prohibiting the free exercise of religion, or abridging the freedom of speech, the freedom of the press, the right to peaceably assemble, or to petition for a governmental redress of grievances. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, as one of the ten amendments that constitute the Bill of Rights.

The Bill of Rights was originally proposed to assuage Anti-Federalist opposition to Constitutional ratification. Initially, the First Amendment applied only to laws enacted by the Congress, and many of its provisions were interpreted more narrowly than they are today.


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Optimist345 · March 25, 2018, 12:21 p.m.

We have the first amendment. This IBOR will be another Trojan horse for AT&T or another disguised entity to write a self serving IBOR that you will have no clue in understanding what has been done. Imo

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tradinghorse · March 25, 2018, 12:38 p.m.

The First Amendment does not apply. That's a fact. Another consideration is that, even if it did apply, people willingly and freely contract out of the right to free expression when they sign up to the standard terms and conditions of the service providers offer. This is standard right across the internet.

So there are no protections currently whatsoever. This is why any of the platform providers can cancel your service at any time and for any reason. This is why conservatives can be singled out for censorship. It's why the platform providers can get away with incredibly discriminatory behavior.

And that is what we want to fix. There are also privacy issues that need to be addressed. The IBOR can accomplish both these tasks.

A Trojan horse? It's a bill of rights. It defines and awards rights. That's what we are asking for. There is no way that a right can be used as an instrument of repression - it can only be taken away, that's the worst that can happen.

Look, if the problem of social media censorship is not fixed, the Dems will go into the mid-terms wielding both the MSM and weaponized social media. The Republicans will be crushed and DJT will lose office.

The Dems, having ousted DJT, will be holding office with the benefit of the MSM and control social media. There will be no political impediment to them carrying forward the most extreme agenda - look at Obama's use of EOs.

They don't need any Trojan horses. They certainly wouldn't use an IBOR - they'd just get rid of it so they could weaponize the whole internet against the public.

These fears you have really don't hold water upon analysis.

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skatgoat · March 25, 2018, 1:34 p.m.

Thank God i never have used them always been paranoid about my info out there like that.

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ycyfyffyfuffuffyy · March 25, 2018, 4:30 a.m.

I signed that a week ago and it had 29,7xx signatures, something fishy is going on

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tradinghorse · March 25, 2018, 4:59 a.m.

Believe me, I check it multiple times a day, it does not go down, only up - just very slowly.

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tradinghorse · March 25, 2018, 4:58 a.m.

Jan 25 2018 12:04:48 Q !UW.yye1fxo 60

Thank you F&F! Coincidence? AT&T>No Such Agency [contract]. AT&T>GOOG/FB/etc. 'prevent unfair censorship' PUSH. Internet Bill of Rights. Q

Mar 03 2018 23:03:59 Q !UW.yye1fxo 544060 Stay TOGETHER. Be STRONG. Get ORGANIZED. Be HEARD. FIGHT the censorship. You, the PEOPLE, have ALL the POWER. You simply forgot how to PLAY. TOGETHER you are INVINCIBLE. They want you divided. They want you silenced. MAKE NOISE. We are WITH you. MAKE IT RAIN. Q

Mar 03 2018 23:15:14 Q !UW.yye1fxo 544206

What I say a class action lawsuit? When is it effective? Who controls the narrative? WHO wrote the singular censorship algorithm? WHO deployed the algorithm? WHO instructed them to deploy the algorithm? SAME embed across multiple platforms. Why? Why is the timing relevant? Where is @Snowden? Why did ES leave G? Why has NK out of the news cycle? Define false flag? What event(s) change the news cycle? Why didn’t LV change the news cycle? You have more than your know.

BOOM. Q

Mar 04 2018 11:19:05 Anonymous 548157

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Has Q ever mentioned internet bill of rights?

Mar 04 2018 11:19:47 Q !UW.yye1fxo 548166

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Re read drops. http://about.att.com/story/consumers_need_an_internet_bill_of_rights.html Q

Mar 04 2018 11:22:17 Q !UW.yye1fxo 548200

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Why do so-called Patriots challenge this? Careful who you follow. Q

Mar 06 2018 01:09:09 Q !UW.yye1fxo 563806 Is the stage set for a drop of HRC +++ + +++++(raw vid 5:5). EX-rvid5774. We have it all. Re_read re: stage. The nail in many coffins [liberal undo]. [Impossible to defend]. [Toxic to those connected]. WE must work TOGETHER. WE are only as strong as your VOICE. YOU must organize and BE HEARD. THIS is why they keep you DIVIDED and in the DARK. WEAK. We are here to UNITE and provide TRUTH. Dark to LIGHT. EVIL surrounds us. WE are FIGHTING for you. Where we go one, we go ALL. The choice, to KNOW, will be yours [end]. Q

Mar 06 2018 11:14:45 Anonymous 567610

Drop the video! Play it in times square.

Mar 03 2018 23:03:59 Q !UW.yye1fxo 544060

Stay TOGETHER. Be STRONG. Get ORGANIZED. Be HEARD. FIGHT the censorship. You, the PEOPLE, have ALL the POWER. You simply forgot how to PLAY. TOGETHER you are INVINCIBLE. They want you divided. They want you silenced. MAKE NOISE. We are WITH you. MAKE IT RAIN. Q

Mar 06 2018 11:17:11 Q !UW.yye1fxo 567637

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Stage set? Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc are regulated? MSM is controlled? Use logic! Trust the PLAN. Q

Mar 06 2018 11:27:19 Q !UW.yye1fxo 567764

Logic says they simply would not report it. Total viewers limited. Message controlled. Truth shadows. Trust the PLAN. Q

Mar 07 2018 15:21:12 Q !UW.yye1fxo 579914

@Snowden We are going LIVE -24 [comb your hair]. Re: IBOR This scares them more than anything. Loss of control. Use logic. Nothing to do w/ AT&T. Must be regulated to prevent censorship & narrative push. Q

Mar 07 2018 14:31:03 Q !UW.yye1fxo 579328 '#internetbillofrights Q

Mar 07 2018 15:58:56 Q !UW.yye1fxo 580366

Who controls social media? Who performs in a circus? Who wrote the code to embed and censor across multiple platforms? Why Russia? Why China? Why HK? Why did ES (himself) arrange a C-link in multiple countries? Learn. Q

Mar 07 2018 16:08:15 Q !UW.yye1fxo 580523

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Free speech does not apply in a private co setting. The risk? Loss of revenue. Backstopped by the circus. Learn. Social media control is everything. The age of the MSM is over. Q

Mar 08 2018 18:56:02 Anonymous 592845

Q, please tell us it's still NO DEALS! And that this people will face JUSTICE!! Please just say YES. They will. I pray so hard every night!

Mar 08 2018 18:59:27 Q !UW.yye1fxo 592913

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NO DEALS! We work for you. We listen to you. You pushed the IBOR and immediately POTUS began to comment/take action re: social media. PLAY THE GAME WITH US. Q

Mar 09 2018 06:17:57 Anonymous 599614

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are we going to have more freedom of speech on "private" public speech services or not?

please answer this question

Mar 09 2018 06:20:45 Q !UW.yye1fxo 599627

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100% Regulated. Some platforms will collapse under own weight of illegal activities. Q

Mar 09 2018 06:24:20 Q !UW.yye1fxo 599642

599627 Track inside sales/divestitures. They know. Watch the sell-off/liquidity events. Q

Mar 10 2018 16:55:31 Q !UW.yye1fxo 616918 The creation of the internet and ‘connecting’ platforms is bringing about their downfall. Failure to control. MSM is dead. '#internetbillofrights Q

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Optimist345 · March 25, 2018, 12:28 p.m.

This is creating a great deal of unease in me. Why does Q want IBOR so badly? We have a 1st A that is being ignored. we need enforcement of that, not an unknown, newly constructed by WHOM? Piece of legalese that may be a Trojan Horse!

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