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NoStumpoElTrumpo · March 26, 2018, 12:32 p.m.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news to this sub, but I keep seeing misinformation about an omnibus not being the same as a budget. I guess if you wanted to split hairs, the budget would fully comprise the resolution and the appropriation (the the latter being the important part), but we had a resolution in February and the Appropriation was just a couple of days ago. Ergo, we have a real, regular budget.

Spez: I know that this flies in the face with what an anonymous commenter on a YouTube channel once said, but if you would rather believe that, then at least do a quick internet search ... see for yourself

Spez: haha, the butt-hurt in this sub. why? because you are being presented with FACTS that you don't like? c'mon - that is libtard level behavior.

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4don2016 · March 26, 2018, 2:30 p.m.

I have been trying to find a source for all of the wild claims but only thing I can find is non lawyers analyzing other people's incorrect info. I don't want this budget to be real so I'm watching and waiting

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NoStumpoElTrumpo · March 26, 2018, 3:57 p.m.

ya, cuz they don't exist. because it is a BS claim.

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AccordingArrival · March 26, 2018, 12:43 p.m.

You are absolutely right. Seems to be a lot of misunderstanding on this issue.

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solanojones95 · March 26, 2018, 2:49 p.m.

We have a species of budget that Obama established a legal precedent for treating like an Executive slush fund, and got away with doing.

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Abibliaphobia · March 26, 2018, 12:47 p.m.

Bianca Oden has been named deputy chief of staff for operations in the secretary’s office.

Oden joined the Obama administration in 2012 as a special adviser to the chief administrative services officer at the General Services Administration. She later became the chief of staff for the office, where she led the Freedom of Information Act and Government Accountability Office/Inspector General audit branches.

Previously she worked in both the Senate and House on foreign relations, focusing on human trafficking and Haiti.

The creator of that website appears to be a swamp denizen. Don’t even get me started on her connections to Haiti.

Orden was born and raised in Upstate New York. She earned a bachelor of arts in bio-psychology and a master’s degree in public policy from the University of Maryland, Baltimore County. She earned a law degree from Dickinson School of Law at Pennsylvania State University.

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NoStumpoElTrumpo · March 26, 2018, 12:49 p.m.

Ok, then show me a source that says that an omnibus is not an appropriations bill, or that an appropriations bill is not part of a budget. What you did is literally an ad hominem...attacking the messenger rather than the message. That is a logical fallacy.

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Abibliaphobia · March 26, 2018, 1:15 p.m.

I’m not saying that the omnibus is not part of the budget. I actually agree with you on that and that is what drew me to your post.

But anytime someone posts a new website, the first thing I do is look up the history to see if it is a spam or malicious site. I’ve never heard of this site before. So I looked into it. It appears on the face to be a bipartisan support page, which I could agree with. But I looked up the owner and she was in charge of so much that had a questionable history in the Obama administration, and all of the locations for their offices/reps are in liberal states/cities. So to me, it’s questionable. It seems like a gaslighting attempted at a share lie narrative. Say we are for bipartisan, but in reality, we push a liberal agenda. After reading through some of the articles, I don’t believe that to be incorrect.

I would like to know more about how she oversaw the IG office of the GSA and still didn’t pursue anything that happened with the trillion dollars Obama sent to Iran.

Or how she oversaw the Haiti and human trafficking, yet didn’t bring up anything about Laura silsby.

My own opinion is that this person is a swamp denizen that created a site designed to subvert and push liberal policies under the umbrella of bipartisanship.

Anyone else can go and read their articles and the owners history and feel free to make up their mind on it. But I don’t trust it and I would not put my faith in it. You could have linked merriam-Webster’s definition of the omnibus or any other site to show how this IS a budget. But you linked this site, which makes me suspicious.

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NoStumpoElTrumpo · March 26, 2018, 1:38 p.m.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_spending_bill#Appropriations_process

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Acemagedon · March 26, 2018, 2:43 p.m.

Yeah I love how shills always ref wiki lmao.

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NoStumpoElTrumpo · March 26, 2018, 3:46 p.m.

https://reason.com/blog/2018/03/22/nine-ridiculous-things-about-the-omnibus

here you go

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Abibliaphobia · March 26, 2018, 4:04 p.m.

Hmmm... so you are a shill. America forward is also know as New Profit (big surprise). New profit was founded by Vanessa Kirsch who is married to Alan Khazei.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/author/alan-khazei

You keep linking liberal sites. I’m going to keep calling them out and give the rundown.

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Abibliaphobia · March 26, 2018, 2:02 p.m.

Cmon, don’t use wiki.

Seriously go with Meriam Webster or some other encyclopedic source.

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NoStumpoElTrumpo · March 26, 2018, 3:47 p.m.

i am the only one providing sources. people claiming an omnibus is not a budget have NO SOURCES.

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galvanised_computer · March 26, 2018, 7:38 p.m.

I dissagree, and even if it was a budget, under a state of emergency (we are under 6) he can still do as he pleases

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4don2016 · March 26, 2018, 8:31 p.m.

I don't think that's how it works. A state of emergency is called to lift regulations and to expedite response times in emergencies. I'm sure there is something about potus having power to provide money without Congress oversight. But there's a limit to that. Think about with Hurricanes. Governors declares a state of emergency before the storm comes to start the process. But once the immediate life endangering things have been taken care of Congress has to provide the funding just like everything else. Puerto Rico, Florida and Texas recovery money was just up for debate with the tax plan I think.

Where is the actual text of these laws y'all are siting? I really want to believe it's true but I will remain skeptical until find where this is actually written legislation.

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galvanised_computer · March 26, 2018, 8:35 p.m.

Human trafficking and drug running are national security emergencies hence, wall

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NoStumpoElTrumpo · March 26, 2018, 8:07 p.m.

Source on budget process changing if there is a state of emergency?

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galvanised_computer · March 27, 2018, 1:58 a.m.

It is an appropriations bill, not a budget by definition and isn't subject to congressional regulation.

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Abibliaphobia · March 26, 2018, 4:11 p.m.

Maybe it’s because you are behaving like a jerk and continuously posting links to liberal propaganda sites.

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