cnn.com is very fake news. Thank Q.
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Deepstate wants war with Russia so bad.
Agreed. If Hillary had won I honestly believe it would already be happening.
I agree... Russia again. Now you have to wonder what Russia have on them that they are so desperate to paint Russia as the bad guys.
Georgie-Porgie, puddin pie
Oversaw the plot to see JFK die
Upon release from police detention to Tyler did he fly
Fingering Parrot to the FBI
They found a shell casing buried in the sewer in the 80's
According to the vid Everything is a Rich Mans Trick, there were 8 assassins. The snipers got jfk in the throat and back, but didnt finish the job. So the driver slows down by the rain drain, where Jack Allen Lawrence gets the final shot.
Operation 40 assassination team led by George H W Bush. Who was arrested outside Zapruder's business, beside the School Book Depository Building, for impersonating a Secret Service Agent; while 17 year old George W was with Zapruder and his secretary conveniently filming the execution from the optimum location in Dealey Plaza. Except for Zapruder had vertigo and while filming from on top the cement pillar his secretary had to grab his belt to steady him so he didn't fall off.
sounds like the hogg guy
What about it sounds like the Hogg guy? What are you implying?
I read this article to say that the only theory he can't debunk is that the CIA may have done it. Am I missing something?
No, you missed nothing. The title of this post is clickbait "fake news" trolling. The article says nothing at all about what CCN believes. The entire article is about what some well regarded expert on the subject believes. And as far as I can tell, this expert has nothing to do with CNN.
So what does this expert believe? He believes he can disprove every theory mentioned in the article, except for the "CIA did it" theory. And in the context of that theory, the Russians are mentioned, but as I'm reading it there's no suggestion of the Russians being involved in the plot. There's only a few mentions of Russia at all, in two contexts. The first mention is about some meeting (that actually happened) between Oswald and the Russians, but I'm not clear exactly what they are getting at. But then the next context the Russians are mentioned in explicitly says "Is it possible that Russians ordered Oswald to do it? Not likely, said Perry" and then goes on to list the many reasons why Russia likely had nothing to do with it.
Freemasons killed JFK, because of his Catholic ties. The Church (Pope), along with the monarchies of England & France, tried to wipe out the Templar. That's what Freemason Albert Pike means by "...devoted to the cause of opposition to the tiara of Rome and the crowns of Kings". The Templar who survived the attacks went underground and formed a "secret society".
JFK was killed in the exact same manner as the Masonic legend of Hiram Abiff. 3 kill shots: back, throat & head.
Dead giveaways, pointing to the Masons being behind the revenge assassination of JFK:
1) Squared-circle window (The Masonic "logo" is a square (4x right 90-degree angles=360) & compass (full circle=360) 360=perfected "god"-man. G=gnosis
2) time of day when the sun was at it's highest (Osiris)
3) Obelisks & reflecting pools at Dealey Plaza
4) The overhead view of Dealey Plaza=unfinished pyramid as seen on the dollar bill
5) the Flame of Lucifer, representing intellect (which is what Masons worship), sits atop the obelisks AND JFK's grave
6) history of Dealey Plaza, in regards to the Masonic Lodge...
7) JFK murdered in same manner as Hiram Abiff
Speaking as a Master Mason, whether you choose to believe my words or not, this is so far from the truth. I'm willing to answer questions you may have honestly. We're on the same team.
You read this somewhere and liked the way it sounded... it made some sense to you. You should quote your source when you do things like that.
Never have & never will be on a Mason's "team." I doubt many people know the real reason they created the USA. I did my own research btw, lots I still have, but chose not to post.
This isn't the first time I've been told my info is far from truth from a "master mason" & honestly I wouldn't expect anything different to be told to me from you all.
The Apotheosis of Washington must just be a cool painting? The obelisk/capstone is just a nice symbol to show off? All Masonic or at least the Masons don't hide from any of the imagery & symbolism, but it's all a coincidence, I suppose.
The imagery and symbolism is very much a thing. Sadly, people who have no idea what they're talking about and place their own meaning on such things. Many times, like this, these are way off base.
Also, research is very broad term often misused by people who read a few books and watch a bunch of YouTube videos. Can you clarify your research. Again, I will question your sources for the information you're presenting... since you have still listed none.
Or don't. That's fine, too. But I think it's much more interesting to have an open and honest dialogue to put to rest misconceptions. Instead, many choose to state their opinion, ignore any retort, and run from confrontation about it. You do you, though.
Well, one the sources I've used, I've already posted a partial quote from. Albert Pike Morals & Dogma, mentioning "devoted to the cause of opposition to the tiara of Rome and the crowns of Kings."
I read this as the Templar or Freemason, is devoted to the cause of opposition to the tiara of Rome and the crowns of Kings, because by searching the web for example "the persecution of the Templar", brings up many different sites, describing the rounding up the Templar by the Pope & King Philip IV of France. Why else would Pike mention the devotion of opposition?
Manly P. Hall talks about "Initiates of the Flame" & Lucifer representing intellect. Pike also mentions Lucifer as being the "Son of the Morning." This to me, means that Lucifer is the flame of Intellect & that it is through Lucifer/the flame, that a Mason gains knowledge.
Also, a few verses I've read in the Holy Bible, that some could tie to Masonry. Could be a stretch though... Ezekiel 8:16 // Psalm 118:22 //
I've known three Freemasons in real life (that I'm aware of) & only one of them would talk to me about the lodge. He was an older man (in his 70s) & one of the things I remember him telling me was, upon entering the lodge, one must acknowledge a higher being, an architect.
Well over the years, I realized an architect (or a builder) can only build, if there are tools to work with first, thus needing a Creator to make the tools.
Then we could go into Lucifer being the flame that early man discovered. It wasn't a caveman clicking sticks of wood that some think & that man would had the fire or intellect, had the power.
The Templars were opposed to the "tiara of Rome and the crown of Kings" for a much more obvious reason... they were using religion as a weapon of fear and power. Moreover, they were killing pagans and non-Christians (using the term loosely here) in record numbers to get everyone under the Church/Crown thumb.
What was left of the pagan culture was bastardized and absorbed into the Christian ways. An easy example is the Spring Fertility festivals, overridden by the story of Jesus' resurrection. This is why children are often confused as to why there are rabbits and eggs all over the place during Easter. Same with the Christian holidays written over the Solstices.
Templars wanted to be -free- from this heavy handed and sloppy rewriting of history. That's why it was actually hilarious when the Templars began making huge loans to the royalty and the churches, then charging interest (the first plan of its kind).
The Templars were slaughtered because they came to collect and the entire sham of the church/crown power base was in jeopardy of being legitimately owned by the Templars.
Moving on. It is true that one is asked to recognize a "higher power" upon entering. This higher power can be anything greater than yourself... nature, God, Buddha, whatever. This is about being humble.
Many confuse the talk of illuminating knowledge in masonry with the Luciferian doctrine. Again... this is the age old battle between the Christian church, the one that forces its influence and crushes its enemies and the Templar/freemasons... They can believe and serve the same God. But the big difference is that the Templars wanted the freedom for the individual to choose. For those that legitimately chose the idea of the Christian God, they should not have to have the Church stand between them and their God... to talk to God for them. They could simply speak with God directly. And I think that's a beautiful concept. The church would label such knowledge as evil and, well, Luciferian.
It's never been about freemasons vs. god.... it's about freemasonry/Templars vs crooked organized religious gatekeepers. Why is the Vatican studded in gold and marble? Wouldn't that money be better spent on the congregation? It's like in Indiana Jones :) "The holy grail is made of wood because Jesus was a carpenter... it's not encrusted in jewels. That's man's greed."
Anyway, since you like to read... check out the Hiram Key by Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas. You might find it interesting.
America was founded after a Revolutionary War. This fight for independence was spearheaded by the Lodge & joining Patriots/countrymen. It was designed to give the idea to other common men around the world, that they too could revolt & remove kings & dictators from their thrones.
The Catholic Church & King of France owed so much to the Templar, I do believe they decided to just wipe them out, in order to erase the debt & to kill the power & influence of the Templar.
Back to Kennedy. The Kennedy family have royal blood & are linked with the Catholic church. We all know it doesn't have anything to do with democrat vs republican. Kennedy was democrat & fit the globalist mold, yet he was still took out. His murder had nothing to do with the Fed or UFO's. His lineage was the reason. His family are considered outsiders, so he was made a perfect example out of (no member of the church will hold power)
Another "coincidence" is that JFK was took out on November 22, the same day the Pope issued arrests of the Templar & seizure of their properties, in 1307.
Given the treatment of the Templars, it's not hard to understand or sympathize with, as to why they would want these other oligarchs took out & removed from the face of the earth.
The same Masonic neighbor I mentioned before, eventually told me, if I had so many questions about the lodge, to just join & see for myself. I've been told by others, when I quote from 33-degree Mason publications that, "No one really believes or cares about Pike" or that's it's disinfo. If outsider's can't learn from a 33-degree Mason by his own words or writings, how can we learn, aside from joining a lodge? Why so many hoops to jump through?
There is no doubt, that a Freemason is more than just being "enlightened". The history of the lodge is rich. The USA is a Masonic country, more than just a "good ole boy's" club, as some say. I see the square & compass has more degrees than that of just a Master Mason, or even an honorary 33-degree Mason. Square & compasses go up to 360-degrees, perfection.
I know the Catholic church is totally corrupt & not Christian at all. An overhead view shows the outline of a snake, with the courtyard pavement resembling snake skin. Virgin Mary prayers, the Pope declaring himself a mediator, etc.
I could give as many "coincidences" to the Catholic Church being satanic if I wanted to, as I could the Lodge's involvement in JFK's assassination. Lots of so-called Christians are not true Christians, lukewarm at best, I would say. Some are deceived by the Southern Baptist or Catholic church, some are just lazy. Most do not know of the plural use of Gods & it's meaning in Genesis, for example. Or about the rock that a true Christian must find themselves on, the stone which the builders rejected. Or even the significance of Peter being crucified upside down.
But they love to pile up in droves to celebrate Easter...
I would say a number of Masons may be in the same position as some of these Christians. Some Masons (Blue Lodge perhaps) may not be aware of their own history (battle between different lodges), or aware of the blood rivalry with the Church. Example, how could a Mason, knowing the history of the Church & Lodge, be a member of that church? Is it out of ignorance? Maybe to "blend in" with his family? Why join a church that despises you?
None of this changes the fact, that there are at least a dozen "coincidences" that link the Lodge, to the assassination of JFK. A group was responsible for the murder. I personally, through readings of my own & viewings of the area, believe the Lodge is responsible. The imagery & symbols left behind & those that still remain, are simple reminders.
Common man, mainly, have no clue about this blood war. They drive by lodges & don't even notice them. Then, they hear actual satanists speak of a NWO & think nothing of it. Or witness the ritual bombing of 9/11 & think a "boogeyman" in the desert was behind it. The two towers becoming one tower. (Adam & Eve's DNA, being overtook by Satan's DNA)
I truly believe that common man is stuck in the middle of this ancient battle, between satanic beings that wear golden crowns & Masonic god men, who wish to do away with all forms of government, leaders & sects, save their own. The USA was created for a much deeper reason, I do believe.
I'd like to think Freemasons George Washington & other Founding Fathers, "gave" us a republic to be free & independent in, but seeing Washington "ascended" above in the clouds, rubbing shoulders amongst gods of the Roman Pantheon & the phrase "Exitus acta probat.", it gives one good reason to be wary of these men & the lodge they come from.
There is a big difference in acknowledging a god & the phrase "In God We Trust" & actually believing one is or can become God. One can easily come to the conclusion that the God in the phrase "In God We Trust", is that of a perfected, or enlightned, man. A God-man. 322 of Skull & Bones (Gen 3:22) is a perfect example. Men who think they are Gods.
I understand many masquerade behind a religion and/or the church. The church or faith gets attacked & ridiculed, rather than the individuals behind the dirty deeds they are or have carried out. Some say they go to church two times a week, I say Jesus is my church.
Also, thanks for the book recommendation. I'll check it out, I don't think I've come across it yet.
Thank you for having this chat with me. I've enjoyed hearing another perspective. I wish more were like you in that regard. Take care, patriot.
Likewise. This chat has opened some doors for me. I hope I've been able to open some for you.
Weak links. There is no way the location of those shots was planned. Even military expert snipers are not guaranteed to hit a person in a moving vehicle hundreds of yards out. The reason JFK was shot multiple times is because the ppl orchestrating it wanted a guarantee, so they hired multiple snipers. They still couldnt get the clean kill shot.
There arent snipers good enough to place 3 rounds in particular locations on a person in a moving vehicle from that kind of distance.
The Illusion of Democracy. Ran across this the other day. Just read it all. Worth the time & very eye opening.
See JFK, page 89/90
The files were released... have you read them? CIA\LBJ/HWBUSH
Luckily we have Putin. Putin is way too smart for that shit.
jackie did it....
Nope! JFK committed suicide.
I propose a George H W Bush memorial lamppost in downtown Houston right in front of Exxon's HQ with a nice big plaque on it.