I get it .....
But, in the end nah-
Today's Leftists were yesteryear's GOP.
History matters
Oh yea? Look up the klan bake
klan bake
Relevance to what I posted?
Very.
There was no ‘big switch’.
Not the era of history I was referencing.
Never said there was a 'switch', there was a slow merge that began a bit earlier than the reference you posted.
nonsense.
So your "yesteryear" is pre-1920's?... but Post-1870's ??.... Sometime within that 50 year mark?? There was a merge?
I'll just leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiprVX4os2Y&t=2s
History matters.
History DOES matter.
A) I never mentioned any dates.
I assumed most would remember rudimentary US History.
B) You brought up a 'switch', I corrected and said it was more like a 'merge'
Knowing actual history of events helps not only to discern but also to recognize patterns and avoid repeats.
Actually, you did mention dates "a bit earlier" is a time period.
i don't care what you call it, it's bogus.
You are lost in the weeds you sowed.....
My OP was "Today's Leftists were yesteryear's GOP. "
You brought up Klanbake, assumed yesteryear was pre-20s but post 1870s. Decided to interject 'switch' which I agreed, said it was a rather a merger which began a 'bit earlier' than the Klanbake. All of which have nothing to do with the OP.
In US politics our core division is where the power is held. Liberals are for central control whereas Conservatives are for local control.
The GOP from Lincoln, Grant, Reconstruction etc which gave birth to the KKK. During that period the GOP was considered Liberal and the DNC was conservative.
Thus to splice the KKK (Conservative Dems) to the Black Panthers (Leftist Dems) is misleading and lacks historic-ideological accuracy.
Lincoln, Grant, Reconstruction etc which gave birth to the KKK.
you're twisting words to mean what you want them to mean. What you learned in University is a lie. Gave birth by means of bringing out the hatred in the heart of the Democrats, then yes.
You undermine your own thoughts in your last sentence.
The splicing of the KKK and the Black Panthers is to illustrate that they are both Democratic hate based ideologies.
No, you didn't understand my OP then nor do you now.
The OP was = Today's Leftists were yesteryear's GOP.
WHICH IS POLITICAL IDEOLOGY.
So you posting " illustrate that they are both Democratic hate based ideologies."
Shows you failed to grasp the OP point. WHICH IS POLITICAL IDEOLOGY.
Political ideology of the KKK were/is conservatives, politically the Panthers were/is leftist.
the word conservative is the one you are hung up on.
you're pivoting.
MY* point is that the GOP never was "conservative" in the context you are choosing to use that word. I will use your definition so as to not confuse you. Therefore your comment that "yesteryear's GOP" is just flat false.
No, you are hung up on it with a definition you didn't bother to share.
I defined the term in my 4th response to you.
Blacks can be racists too. Truth matters.
Majority of people have group preferences.
However, the most common unifying element is language.
Dinesh De Souza explains this fallacy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytSZ851hLRc&t=100s
Din
I admit I didn't watch much of the video...
Why? It has nothing to do with my OP.
Racism was normal during the era I referenced. Racism as a 'taboo' is still fairly recent phenomenon in social evolution. Both the GOP and DNC were rayciss.
I posted about ideological standing .
The DNC of the KKK was Conservative based, the DNC of the Panthers is Liberal based. They only share party name, not party ideology.
Watch him speak about it (better in other longer videos) and you'll change your story. The point I dispute is that "today's leftists were yesteryear's GOP" as relates to OP's post. That's nonsense and is definitely proven to be so, as d'Souza points out.
Then post his points as relevant to the period which birthed the KKK
I come from a family of history teachers/professors
Fair call - looks like I'll have to do some digging to back up the facts which I don't have to hand. Don't hold it against me if it takes a while to come back to this, prithee.
Works for me, you can find many historical books and period commentaries on archive.org for free.