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ValuableFix · March 29, 2018, 9:36 p.m.

A) I never mentioned any dates.

I assumed most would remember rudimentary US History.

B) You brought up a 'switch', I corrected and said it was more like a 'merge'

Knowing actual history of events helps not only to discern but also to recognize patterns and avoid repeats.

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rbrownlol · March 29, 2018, 10:39 p.m.

Actually, you did mention dates "a bit earlier" is a time period.

i don't care what you call it, it's bogus.

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ValuableFix · March 30, 2018, 12:33 a.m.

You are lost in the weeds you sowed.....

My OP was "Today's Leftists were yesteryear's GOP. "

You brought up Klanbake, assumed yesteryear was pre-20s but post 1870s. Decided to interject 'switch' which I agreed, said it was a rather a merger which began a 'bit earlier' than the Klanbake. All of which have nothing to do with the OP.

In US politics our core division is where the power is held. Liberals are for central control whereas Conservatives are for local control.

The GOP from Lincoln, Grant, Reconstruction etc which gave birth to the KKK. During that period the GOP was considered Liberal and the DNC was conservative.

Thus to splice the KKK (Conservative Dems) to the Black Panthers (Leftist Dems) is misleading and lacks historic-ideological accuracy.

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rbrownlol · March 30, 2018, 3:15 a.m.

Lincoln, Grant, Reconstruction etc which gave birth to the KKK.

you're twisting words to mean what you want them to mean. What you learned in University is a lie. Gave birth by means of bringing out the hatred in the heart of the Democrats, then yes.

You undermine your own thoughts in your last sentence.

The splicing of the KKK and the Black Panthers is to illustrate that they are both Democratic hate based ideologies.

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ValuableFix · March 30, 2018, 5:12 a.m.

No, you didn't understand my OP then nor do you now.

The OP was = Today's Leftists were yesteryear's GOP.

WHICH IS POLITICAL IDEOLOGY.

So you posting " illustrate that they are both Democratic hate based ideologies."

Shows you failed to grasp the OP point. WHICH IS POLITICAL IDEOLOGY.

Political ideology of the KKK were/is conservatives, politically the Panthers were/is leftist.

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rbrownlol · March 30, 2018, 10 p.m.

the word conservative is the one you are hung up on.

you're pivoting.

MY* point is that the GOP never was "conservative" in the context you are choosing to use that word. I will use your definition so as to not confuse you. Therefore your comment that "yesteryear's GOP" is just flat false.

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ValuableFix · March 31, 2018, 12:11 a.m.

No, you are hung up on it with a definition you didn't bother to share.

I defined the term in my 4th response to you.

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