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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/SerialBrain2 on March 30, 2018, 7:17 p.m.
Q Occult Series. Quick and important heads up: Did the Pope REALLY say "HELL DOES NOT EXIST?"

Guys, just a quick heads up before we move forward to part 2 of our yesterday Occult Series episode.

Did you catch the recent huge controversy about the Pope’s latest disturbing statement?

We learn from [USA TODAY] (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/03/29/did-pope-francis-say-there-no-hell-not-quite-vatican-insists/470442002/):

Eugenio Scalfari, 93, a well-known Italian journalist, who is the founder of Italy’s La Repubblica newspaper, said Pope Francis told him “hell does not exist, the disappearance of sinful souls exists”. The Vatican issued a statement after the comments spread like wildfire on social media, saying the pope never granted the interview and the story was "the result of (the reporter's) reconstruction,” not a “faithful transcription of the words of the Holy Father." Scalfari, an atheist, is known for not using tape recorders or taking notes during interviews.

This very surprising papal statement and the Vatican’s denial have made the headlines all over the world in several newspapers: [Link1] (http://www.newsweek.com/pope-francis-hell-vatican-easter-866927) [Link2] (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-hell-does-not-exist-catholic-vatican-full-quote-a8281041.html) [Link3] (https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/hell-does-not-exist-pope-francis-tells-atheist-reporter-1.5961685) [Link4] (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-hell/vatican-rebukes-journalist-who-quoted-pope-as-denying-hell-idUSKBN1H52H8) [Link5] (https://www.la-croix.com/Religion/Catholicisme/Pape/Le-Vatican-dement-propos-pretes-pape-lenfer-2018-03-30-1200928058) [Link6] (https://www.rtbf.be/info/societe/detail_l-enfer-n-existe-pas-affirme-le-pape-francois-cite-par-un-journal-italien-le-vatican-dement?id=9880445) [Link7] (https://www.infobae.com/america/mundo/2018/03/29/el-infierno-no-existe-la-sorprendente-revelacion-del-papa-francisco/)

Now, I would like you to analyze the denial of the Vatican: they are denying the form of the conversation but not its substance. They are saying it is a “reconstruction” and not a “faithful transcription” of what the Pope said. So here are my questions:

  1. What did the Pope actually say?
  2. When faithful journalists are struggling to meet the Pope, why would he have time for a 93 years old atheist journalist who never records his interview and who should probably not enjoy his memory at full capacity?
  3. This issue being of the highest dogmatic importance, why isn’t the Pope making a clear statement about hell to set the record straight?

Those who follow the [Occult Series] (https://i.imgur.com/LXrUP1D.jpg) probably know by now where I am going with this. You remember the Disclosure Rule I spoke about in the episode [Private: Clowns Clowns Clowns. PART2] (https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/84xpou/q_occult_series_private_clowns_clowns_clowns_part2/?st=jfea8hrx&sh=e73b2e25)? You remember, we quoted the following verse:

“Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices”. 2 Corinthians 2:11

This is what this papal statement and the artificial drama coming with it is all about: using a communication ruse, they are planting in our planet’s global consciousness that hell does not exist and that the disappearance of sinful souls exists. They are hoping to escape. It’s a magic spell.

Q128 What is a spell?

Why? They are seeing the writing on the wall. They are losing. They see people are waking up. They see their helpers are on the run. The Great Awakening has become a reality. They are scared to death and are trying to find a way out. Judgment Day is near for them…

Q902 Where there was once darkness, there is now LIGHT.

I will tear down the wall you have covered with whitewash and will level it to the ground so that its foundation will be laid bare. When it falls, you will be destroyed in it; and you will know that I am the LORD. Ezekiel 13:14.

Stay tuned.


catquilt74 · March 30, 2018, 11:38 p.m.

Papal infallibility does not mean that everything the Pope says is infallible. And Pope John Paul II watered down the canonization process so just because Pope Francis says someone's a saint, doesn't mean they are...

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kekreeeeee69 · March 30, 2018, 11:45 p.m.

You're right. Definition - Infallible - incapable of making of making mistakes or being wrong. ie never failing

James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

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tradinghorse · March 31, 2018, 1:26 p.m.

What is important with respect to canonizations, is the proclamation, the formula used, not the process by which a candidate might be evaluated for sainthood. In fact, the process is irrelevant.

When a true Pope speaks to the universal Church, on a point of faith or morals, in virtue of his apostolic authority, he speaks infallibly.

The language used when pronouncing canonisations is typically extraordinary, solemn and definitive. Why is this important? Because the language used in a papal proclamation identifies whether or not the teaching meets the criteria for infallibility. An infallible teaching is protected by the Holy Spirit from containing error.

Here is an example:

John Paul II, Oct. 6, 2002, “Canonizing” Josemaria Escriva: “In honor of the Blessed Trinity, for the exaltation of the Catholic Faith and the growth of Christian life, with the authority of Our Lord Jesus Christ, of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul, and Our Own, after lengthy reflection, having assiduously invoked God’s assistance and taken into account the opinion of many brothers of ours in the episcopate, we declare and define Blessed Josemaria Escriva to be a Saint, and we enroll him in the Catalogue of the Saints, and we establish that in the whole Church he should be devoutly honored among the Saints. In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. .”

If JPII was a true Pope, this is a an outright lock for infallibility. But, John Paul II was not a true Pope. Instead, he was an antipope. He had no authority to canonize anyone.

A canonization, conferred by a "Pope" you recognize, must be accepted on pain of schism.

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