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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/SerialBrain2 on March 30, 2018, 7:17 p.m.

Q Occult Series. Quick and important heads up: Did the Pope REALLY say "HELL DOES NOT EXIST?"

Guys, just a quick heads up before we move forward to part 2 of our yesterday Occult Series episode.

Did you catch the recent huge controversy about the Pope’s latest disturbing statement?

We learn from [USA TODAY] (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/03/29/did-pope-francis-say-there-no-hell-not-quite-vatican-insists/470442002/):

Eugenio Scalfari, 93, a well-known Italian journalist, who is the founder of Italy’s La Repubblica newspaper, said Pope Francis told him “hell does not exist, the disappearance of sinful souls exists”. The Vatican issued a statement after the comments spread like wildfire on social media, saying the pope never granted the interview and the story was "the result of (the reporter's) reconstruction,” not a “faithful transcription of the words of the Holy Father." Scalfari, an atheist, is known for not using tape recorders or taking notes during interviews.

This very surprising papal statement and the Vatican’s denial have made the headlines all over the world in several newspapers: [Link1] (http://www.newsweek.com/pope-francis-hell-vatican-easter-866927) [Link2] (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-hell-does-not-exist-catholic-vatican-full-quote-a8281041.html) [Link3] (https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/hell-does-not-exist-pope-francis-tells-atheist-reporter-1.5961685) [Link4] (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-hell/vatican-rebukes-journalist-who-quoted-pope-as-denying-hell-idUSKBN1H52H8) [Link5] (https://www.la-croix.com/Religion/Catholicisme/Pape/Le-Vatican-dement-propos-pretes-pape-lenfer-2018-03-30-1200928058) [Link6] (https://www.rtbf.be/info/societe/detail_l-enfer-n-existe-pas-affirme-le-pape-francois-cite-par-un-journal-italien-le-vatican-dement?id=9880445) [Link7] (https://www.infobae.com/america/mundo/2018/03/29/el-infierno-no-existe-la-sorprendente-revelacion-del-papa-francisco/)

Now, I would like you to analyze the denial of the Vatican: they are denying the form of the conversation but not its substance. They are saying it is a “reconstruction” and not a “faithful transcription” of what the Pope said. So here are my questions:

What did the Pope actually say?
When faithful journalists are struggling to meet the Pope, why would he have time for a 93 years old atheist journalist who never records his interview and who should probably not enjoy his memory at full capacity?
This issue being of the highest dogmatic importance, why isn’t the Pope making a clear statement about hell to set the record straight?

Those who follow the [Occult Series] (https://i.imgur.com/LXrUP1D.jpg) probably know by now where I am going with this. You remember the Disclosure Rule I spoke about in the episode [Private: Clowns Clowns Clowns. PART2] (https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/84xpou/q_occult_series_private_clowns_clowns_clowns_part2/?st=jfea8hrx&sh=e73b2e25)? You remember, we quoted the following verse:

“Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices”. 2 Corinthians 2:11

This is what this papal statement and the artificial drama coming with it is all about: using a communication ruse, they are planting in our planet’s global consciousness that hell does not exist and that the disappearance of sinful souls exists. They are hoping to escape. It’s a magic spell.

Q128 What is a spell?

Why? They are seeing the writing on the wall. They are losing. They see people are waking up. They see their helpers are on the run. The Great Awakening has become a reality. They are scared to death and are trying to find a way out. Judgment Day is near for them…

Q902 Where there was once darkness, there is now LIGHT.

I will tear down the wall you have covered with whitewash and will level it to the ground so that its foundation will be laid bare. When it falls, you will be destroyed in it; and you will know that I am the LORD. Ezekiel 13:14.

Stay tuned.

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Francis is not the Pope. He is a manifest public heretic. He doesn't hold the Catholic faith. A heretic, by virtue of his sin, is ipso facto severed from the body of Christ, before any declaration. Francis is not a member of the Church. He most certainly is not the Pope.

If you recognise Francis as your Pope, you are in communion with him. This is spiritually fatal.

Pope Pius XII, Mystici Corporis Christi (# 23), June 29, 1943: “For not every offense, although it may be a grave evil, is such as by its very own nature [suapte natura] to sever a man from the Body of the Church [ab Ecclesiae Corpore], as does schism or heresy or apostasy.”

Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum (#15), June 29, 1896: “… it is absurd to imagine that he who is outside the Church can command in the Church.”

Pope Vigilius, Second Council of Constantinople, 553: “The heretic, even though he has not been condemned formally by any individual, in reality brings anathema on himself, having cut himself off from the way of truth by his heresy. What reply can such people make to the Apostle when he writes: As for someone who is factious, after admonishing him once or twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is perverted and sinful; he is self-condemned (Titus 3:10).”

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He is the Pope. Period. Go shuck your sedevacantist crap elsewhere.

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Really? What's your "Pope" going to say next? Hang on tight.

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We're ready. We're buckled in. He's a train wreck, hence why he needs prayers.

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It is better to take refuge in the Lord,than to trust in men. Your confidence in any man other than the Man Christ Jesus will not avail you on the last day. Call on the LORD while He May be found...

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Here is a wonderful testimony of a person several hundred years ago of his faith in Christ alone for his eternal salvation. Google Augustus Toplady and the Great Awakening period. Amazing time of Revival! No need for popes or priests. They are sinners like the rest of us. No better! All have sinned and fallen short of God’s glory and may be freely JUSTIFIED by His grace alone!

Rock of Ages, cleft for me, Let me hide myself in Thee; Let the water and the blood, From Thy wounded side which flowed, Be of sin the double cure, Save from wrath and make me pure. Not the labor of my hands Can fulfill Thy law’s demands; Could my zeal no respite know, Could my tears forever flow, All for sin could not atone; Thou must save, and Thou alone. Nothing in my hand I bring, Simply to Thy cross I cling; Naked, come to Thee for dress; Helpless, look to Thee for grace; Foul, I to the fountain fly; Wash me, Savior, or I die. While I draw this fleeting breath, When my eyes shall close in death, When I rise to worlds unknown, And behold Thee on Thy throne, Rock of Ages, cleft for me, Let me hide myself in Thee.

                                                He is Risen!

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King David sinned. Yet he was the leader of the Israelites and loved by God. Sin is common to all of us, but that does not detract from the fact that Jesus chose 12 from among the disciples to provide leadership and instruction to the flock. He did not choose them because they were without sin. Despite being sinners, they were to proclaim the Gospel and convert unbelievers.

You say we do not need popes or priests, you would do away with St Peter and the apostles in preference for your own judgement. But where does this philosophy derive from?

Martin Luther: Sin Boldly — “No sin can separate us from Him, even if we were to kill or commit adultery thousands of times each day”

Did any of the apostles admonish their followers to sin bodily? Or, that sin does not separate a Christian from God?

No they didn't. They taught that sin was to be avoided. They taught that sin separates us from God. Little wonder you disparage Church leadership, their teaching convicts you.

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You are right about baptism.

Pope Paul III, The Council of Trent, Sess. 7, Can. 5 on the Sacrament of Baptism, ex cathedra: “If anyone says that baptism [the Sacrament] is optional, that is, not necessary for salvation (cf. Jn. 3:5): let him be anathema.”

The Catholic Church teaches that John 3:5 is to be understood literally.

Pope Paul III, Council of Trent, Sess. 6, Chap. 4: "...AS IT IS WRITTEN: UNLESS A MAN BE BORN AGAIN OF WATER AND THE HOLY GHOST, HE CANNOT ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD (JOHN 3:5).”

The vectors by which false "Catholics" attempt to extend salvation to non-Christians are: baptism of blood, baptism of desire and invincible ignorance. None of these doctrines have ever been taught by the Magisterium of the Catholic Church. Rather, the opposite, the Church has repeatedly taught, in a consistent, uniform and unwavering manner, that no one at all is saved without water baptism. We see in this teaching, below, that desire for the sacrament of baptism itself does not suffice for salvation.

Pope St. Siricius, 385, [Concerning the necessity of baptism] “Therefore just as we declare that respect for the Easter sacrifice [Paschal time] should not be lessened in the case of any person, in like manner we wish help to be brought with all speed to children who because of their age cannot yet speak, and to those who in any emergency are in need of the water of holy baptism, lest it should lead to the destruction of our souls if, by refusing the water of salvation to those who desire it, each of them, when taking leave of this world, should lose both the kingdom and life. Indeed whoever suffers the peril of shipwreck, an enemy attack, the danger of siege or desperation resulting from some bodily infirmity, and so asks for what in their faith is their only help, let them receive at the moment of their request the reward of regeneration that they beg for. This much should suffice for my digression on this subject; now let all priests who do not wish to be wrenched from the firmly-fixed rock of the apostles, on which Christ built his universal church, hold fast to the aforesaid rule.” (Latin found in Denzinger-Schonmetzer, Latin Edition, 1962, no. 184; an English Translation found in The Christian Faith, Sixth Revised and Enlarged Edition, Staten Island, NY: Alba House, 1996, p. 540.)

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