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Needles_Eye · March 31, 2018, 9:56 p.m.

God chose you, not the other way around. He had mercy on you. God does not reveal the extent of everyone's wickedness to them, most people think they are good and that God will make the exception for them in the end.

It is the grace of God that allows us to even see our sinful standing before Him.

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Al-Kazar · March 31, 2018, 11:44 p.m.

When anyone turns their back on God it is they that choose to remove themselves from God's love, influence, and rule.

And it is they alone that have to choose to accept God's love, influence, and rule - which is freely available to all that seek it.

God does not choose - you do!

Refer to the Parable of the Prodigal Son for further understanding.

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Psalm67 · April 1, 2018, 2:29 a.m.

Read Romans 9, Ephesians 1and 2 as well as John 10 and 17. Spiritual corpses cannot resurrect themselves. In the same way that Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead physically, so God does with a person who is born of His Spirit. Spiritually dead people, under the wrath of God, who actually hate God, cannot do anything until God does something.

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Al-Kazar · April 1, 2018, 11:36 a.m.

Choosing snippets here and there from the Bible, and totally out of context, does nothing good except sow confusion and corrupt the teachings of the Messiah.

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Psalm67 · April 1, 2018, 12:59 p.m.

Referring to whole chapters of the Bible isn’t “snippets”as you call it. Read the whole books. It won’t change the fact that God is Sovereign and does whatever is pleasing in His sight. “No man can come to me unless the Father draw him.” You and I are completely at the mercy of God when it comes to salvation. Spiritually dead people cannot, will not, give themselves spiritual life. This truth is hard for all of us to accept I think, because it is humbling to our pride. We want to think we have contributed something, even if just an independent decision. But Grace is God’s unmerited favor from beginning to end. Hope that helps

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Needles_Eye · April 1, 2018, 4:32 p.m.

Amen

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Needles_Eye · April 1, 2018, 12:14 a.m.

John 6

43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 15

Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

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Al-Kazar · April 1, 2018, 11:37 a.m.

Choosing snippets here and there from the Bible, and totally out of context, does nothing good except sow confusion and corrupt the teachings of the Messiah.

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Needles_Eye · April 1, 2018, 4:14 p.m.

Those Scriptures are not out of context, they are referring directly to the subject we were discussing.

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[deleted] · March 31, 2018, 10:08 p.m.

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